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December 3rd, 2008 #1method to madness
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hand placement/ drawing style
I am relatively new. I tend to smudge my sketches a lot ... my style of holding the pencil is quite faulty ... In addition I tend to draw pictures with a lot of lead
i was wondering if you guys could post some of your drawing stances. Heres mine.
Thank you for any response
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Woa! Your hand looks so tense. Doesn't it spasm into horrible pain after like ten minutes of drawing?? I hold my pencil so loose that I often just have it flick out of my hand when I'm shading large areas. I can take a pic later.
Oh and put down a clean piece of paper under your hand to seperate you moving hand from the drawing. That will fix the smudge problem...as long as you don't start sliding the clean paper around.
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December 3rd, 2008 #5
I work with a similar grip, not quite as tight maybe but still more of a "writing grip" than a "drawing grip". I've learned to just deal with the smudging. You can try the trick of leaving a piece of clean paper under your hand, though if you move your drawing surface around a lot it won't help. You can try using a painting bridge though that can take a lot of getting used to.
My solution is just to always have a lot of small-diameter stick erasers (like the Pentallic "Tuff Stuff" eraser) on hand at all times to clean up in between my lines.
December 3rd, 2008 #6
Hold your pencil from the side to force yourself to loosen up (and not smudge) in the beginning gesture stages. Then move to holding it your normal way. If you use a clean sheet of paper under your hand it should reduce smudge, but if you have issues like CCThrom you need to learn to pick the paper up and move it, not slide.
December 3rd, 2008 #7if you have issues like CCThrom you need to learn to pick the paper up and move it, not slide.
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December 3rd, 2008 #8
Eh, it's tough to think about stopping to pick a paper up while in the heat of things, but it's possible. I only hold my pencil on the side at the beginning, then I go back to the writing way for detail (I probably hold it too close to the tip too...haha).
December 3rd, 2008 #9
My grip varies. It's generally a pencil a grip. Thanks to a teacher showing me, I do use the side grip, and very rarely use an underhand grip. It depends on the scale of the picture. If it's letter size or in my sketchbook, it tends to go to pencil grip; if I'm doing a life drawing on 18x24 or so, I tend to do most of it with a side grip or higher up the pencil, then shift to a pencil grip as I progress. I'm still trying to get myself into the habit of using the side and under grips for better control and such.
December 3rd, 2008 #10
You should try to use the pencil to the side for rendering also. That way, it's an easier transition to using a paintbrush.
You could also try doing fine line drawings with ink using a thin roundbrush. This will force you to hold a tool further away.
December 3rd, 2008 #11method to madness
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thank you for the advice everyone
I think i'll try to change my grip ... coz its not just smudging, it hinders my movement as well especially when drawing curves
I have tried the 'pencil to the side' approach .... extremely difficult (but probably the best i think)
There's another approach that ive read about in a book
Its basically a higher up writing grip with your pinky extended sort of like a pivot ...
wonder if anyone uses it?
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December 4th, 2008 #13
Eh, on how to hold the pencil, I've found it depends on what you're doing. If I'm drawing small or drawing details (which are small) I tend to really choke up on my instrument (pencil/pen/brush), but if I'm working on a larger scale or in a broader manner (like gestures or filling large areas) I'll pull back a lot more (like as in the "proper" way to hold your tool).
I'm of the opinion that if it works, it works. Just be mindful of any related consequences. For example, if you're gonna continue holding a pencil like you're writing, then place down some paper or wear a glove to prevent smudging and please make sure to take a break and stretch occasionally so you don't end up with a wrist brace later in life!
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December 4th, 2008 #14
Despite what people say, there is no universally correct way to hold a pencil, in my experience it's whatever works best to get the job you want done accomplished. I hold my pencil very much the same way as you, but as I start the initial sketch I hold it towards the middle.
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December 4th, 2008 #15My SketchBook http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=139784
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December 8th, 2008 #16
To stop smudging, if I was really serious about it and couldn't handle the paper, I put painters/general purpose/masking tape on the side of my hand.