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    It might be environmentally sound to become disembodied minds. A brain in a VR environment has lower energy and nutrition requirements. Bodies could be remote controlled when needed. (Incidentally, this is the premise of Cortex Command... but then of course the brains have to build battle robots and blow hit up, because it is a video game after all.)

    I think it's inevitable that we'll turn into something else, because we're already well on our way. A car, cellphone or computer mouse can be a seemingly telepathically controlled appendage of our bodies. It's really quite remarkable how good the human brain is at accepting augmentation.

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    The conclusion of that article made me uneasy.
    Jamen jag tror att han skäms, och har gömt sig. Vårt universum det är en av dom otaliga spermasatser som Herren i sin självhärliga ensamhet har runkat fram för å besudla intet.
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    That example about the clock in orbit versus the one in space. Do you think gravity might have an effect on it's mechanical components? That could explain why it ticks slower in space. Either way it's certainly an interesting idea. I think Einstein's theory of Relativity go into that, though with the inverse of what you described. Time moves more slowly in higher gravitational fields.

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    It might be environmentally sound to become disembodied minds. A brain in a VR environment has lower energy and nutrition requirements.
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    I think the experiments were carried out using atomic clocks. They have observed time differences in atomic clocks situated at different altitudes. Here are some interesting related articles on gravitational effects on time.

    http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...htm?list125479

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound-Rebka_experiment

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafele-Keating_experiment


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    It might be environmentally sound to become disembodied minds.
    Like a Dalek, eh?
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    If the continuum in which our universe is contained is infinite, then all possibilities must exist- by the very definition of the concept 'infinite'. There must exist an world just like the one in which we now inhabit, coexisting with ours that is the same in every detail, down to the smallest particle, with the singular exception that one of those minute particles does not exist.

    Following this logic, if all possibilities must exist, then so too must the possibility that our existence is singular and no others exist. Infinity is. by rule of our understanding, contradictory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rswanson View Post
    If the continuum in which our universe is contained is infinite, then all possibilities must exist- by the very definition of the concept 'infinite'. There must exist an world just like the one in which we now inhabit, coexisting with ours that is the same in every detail, down to the smallest particle, with the singular exception that one of those minute particles does not exist.

    Following this logic, if all possibilities must exist, then so too must the possibility that our existence is singular and no others exist. Infinity is. by rule of our understanding, contradictory.
    Well aren't you clever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Well aren't you clever.
    Well, aren't you an ass. I'm sure someone came to the same conclusion as the statement I made a long time ago. I thought it would be an interesting comment to add to the thread. If you don't think so, go ahead and feel free to work on post #9415.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rswanson View Post
    If the continuum in which our universe is contained is infinite, then all possibilities must exist- by the very definition of the concept 'infinite'. There must exist an world just like the one in which we now inhabit, coexisting with ours that is the same in every detail, down to the smallest particle, with the singular exception that one of those minute particles does not exist.

    Following this logic, if all possibilities must exist, then so too must the possibility that our existence is singular and no others exist. Infinity is. by rule of our understanding, contradictory.
    I was not aware, and could find no definition, that infinite equals all possibilities.
    So your logic is flawed.
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    rswanson: Kinda reminds me of the expression "Could God create a stone He could not lift"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig D View Post
    I was not aware, and could find no definition, that infinite equals all possibilities.
    So your logic is flawed.
    Just listen to the podcast that was posted earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rswanson View Post
    If the continuum in which our universe is contained is infinite, then all possibilities must exist- by the very definition of the concept 'infinite'. There must exist an world just like the one in which we now inhabit, coexisting with ours that is the same in every detail, down to the smallest particle, with the singular exception that one of those minute particles does not exist.

    Following this logic, if all possibilities must exist, then so too must the possibility that our existence is singular and no others exist. Infinity is. by rule of our understanding, contradictory.

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    Can you show me the podcast. I can't see one.
    And will I look stupid now after I listen to it
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    just think, there's some possible universe where your counterpart is married to a supermodel. or supermodels. or every supermodel ever

    too bad none of us lucked out like that, eh?
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