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    The7Artist7: I'd like to start by saying thanks again I wasn't entirely sure of the task here, but I sort of did a paintover type thing where i corrected the mistakes you left for me. Not sure if that's right It helped though, seeing the curved lines that arced around the grid lines but still fit in, and which lines are acceptable to fit in if they move between the grid lines. Post back

    Getting lazy, will try and get my game back on sometime

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    Hey Buddy - nice one! You've cottoned on to what I was trying to do with that task - I wanted you to see how when drawing curves in perspective you just have to find/use the common points. It's exactly like if you where trying to draw a good even curve with no perspective - You'd get both ends and draw the curve between the two. Have a look over this page and experiment a bit around these ideas

    I like those little perspective studies - keep practicing, you're doing well

    Edit: One thing about the paint-over of the Subaru is really think about what will be on the same perspective line - look at the wing-mirrors >_O ... >_o ... O.o ...the top of one is lining up with the bottom of the other! :/ lol no worries though this is all just practice

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    The7Artist7: Thanks I'll play around with a few of those. I was worried about what vanishing point a turning wheel would correspond to?

    Another eye. Didn't feel I grasped that brownish subtle tone.

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    Here you go - hope it makes sense - any questions just ask

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    Much improvement in the paintings man. The artists advice is good also, worth looking into. Keep it up man, do some more self portraits or life drawings

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    The7Artist7: I think I understand that, I'll try it out

    Miles_: Thanks, I was thinking just that this morning.

    Enviro from mind, had to do it for challenge. Biggest piece of crap ever. chose really rubbish colours, had absolutely no clue where to start with any of the detail on the fields, mountains or building. I will look back at this and laugh at how rubbish it is anyway

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    Very Good hun.

    It's always so amasing to see the improvement of an artist and your improving alright, so keep it up!

    I like your eyes very much, interesting colors you got on the very last one really lovely!

    Pretty sweet prespective practices, go along with this flow.

    The poses are still very "stiff" try to practice on more dynamic ones, it's really fun to do 'em! Just let yourself go, and always practice from photos and life/oudoors really handy for color picking, etc.

    Wanna see what you come with next!

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    Lionese: Thanks Yeah I'll do a whole page of poses to try and some dynamicness down. Heh give it a few months and I might see some improvement.

    Ok, I'll be honest. Only 2 of these are from today I got Fallout 3 and just got all meh on you guys. After I post this I will get to practicing that perspective pivot thing 7The Artist7

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    Perspective thumbnails, starting too feel more comfortable. And it's like a whirlwind of concepts flying around my head now
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    cool you´re going into perspectives! wondering what you´ve been cooking for our challenge!
    keep pushing
    cheers

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    bigfooTrooper: That was post 157. Cheers

    Yesterday and some of todays stuff. Need to crack my ass into gear D:

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    Poses from mind. I realized where I'm going wrong. If I attempt to do that pose of the guy falling in real life, I hunch forward or I put my arms over I lean backwards. What I'm not thinking about with figures at the moment is how each limb affects different positions of the body, so I get stiff disjointed figures.
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    Shit character. What happened to my nice lines :'(
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    Posemaniac, tried to get that lean
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    The7Artist7 latest task, or half of it anyways. After my first 2 fails, I used ref but drew it in a diff perspective.
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    Much improvement dude! keep those updates coming, looking forward to where you are gonna be in a years time

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    Keep it up!

    with ref to your first pic in your last post - try really focussing on getting a picture of what you're going to draw in your head before you put pencil to paper. Maybe scribble and sketch on one piece of paper with the intention to throw it away but just to get the idea down v rough. then re-draw the same image on another piece after looking and thinking over what you could improve ...if you repeat this a few times with the same image you should manage to improve the pic quite noticeably within a short amount of time.

    Try not to rush while still keeping a momentum to your drawing
    Think over, imagine in your head first and remember what you know.
    Take time to remember the progress and achievements you are making!
    Look at things that go wrong with your studies as positives as they help you focus on what you can improve

    With the perspective task - nothing wrong with using ref to help with details - but just draw it in a different angle from the ref pic - is this what you did? I'm looking forward to the next 3 cars - I will do paintovers when I can

    Cheers dude

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    Miles_: Will do

    The7Artist7: I have the other three, I'll post that sometime tomorrow.

    Tried to do a black and white. Was interesting to try blocking in black blobs and carving ideas with an eraser. Ended up with some fat guy who's carrying a box on his head/back across a battlefield.

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    The7Artist7: Thanks, it was fun. My car drawings aren't as good as they could be, sorry

    Yesterday and the days before stuff. I had it all scanned ready to upload, but then I went round Miles'. I realised I wasn't spending enough time on poses etc, have some stuff to scan from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamC View Post
    bigfooTrooper: That was post 157. Cheers
    SORRY dude! excuse my blindness! there´s just so much stuff in here!
    so, as I don´t feel that I´m able to give advice in anatomy, I figured to say something about that enviro!

    I think the effort was good ! also concept! hmm, colors are a bit off…
    what I think you should do if you got time:
    browse the web and get a nice landscape foto. then open I with photoshop, or whatever program u are working with and start to paint directly beside it!
    I recommend to create an empty document and then copy your foto into it. you have to resize it so there´s enough space to paint your studie.... the you simply copy it, starting with raw linework...
    while painting, try to nail the light situation and also try to understand how colors are blending, where sharp and where soft edges are placed etc. etc.

    here´s a useful link: http://www.terragalleria.com/index.html

    I hope I could help
    keep working, you´re doing just fine!
    cheers

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    bigfooTrooper: No worries man Yeah I'll do that soon, I wish school would end so I would have more time Cheers for the link, really cool ref site. I think I'm gonna do a lot of perspective stuff when school ends, enviro and cars galore hehe

    Another B&W. Probably could be better, I'll post some hands and PMs and if I have the time maybe that enviro painting, I don't really have much time anymore

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    Drawings from Miles' yesterday...learnt alot

    Barbarian. Took like an hour getting the pose right, changing the weight and balance, everything. Really payed off so far I think, and it's better to take more time on it. WIP so far, worried about the rendering, I fear the neck onwards has lost any contrast and become dull.
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    Rubbish lol IF ANYONE TELLS ME THE HEAD IS TOO SMALL, I KNOW
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    Hey dude - really liking your black and white pics - keep it up!

    With the studies just keep doin em and I think you should work on structure and proportions with your anatomy a bit more - remember the skeleton! Once you have those down too you can put your muscle knowledge together with it and you'll be rockin

    I'll get some paint-overs/ responses to the latest perspective studies when I can - I'm kinda busy for a few days so don't worry I've not forgotten! And keep doing car studies - don't stop at six of em - you could even take this time to re-draw some/all of them at a larger size and develop them more

    And remember the Batman challenge - don't worry if you havn't got your perspective totally sorted on it - have some fun and I tell you what - you should try doing it in your black and white style - that could be interesting!

    Cheers

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    The7Artist7: Yeah the skeleton is something I definitely don't think about enough, do you mean parts of the body where the skeleton is most prominent (elbow, knee, spine, pelvis etc.)? I'm gonna get a lot of studies done over the Christmas holz hopefully I'll try and work on the Batman thing on the weekend, I just look at the image now like "Wrong there, wrong there" haha.

    Enviro painting just as bigfooTrooper suggested, will do these daily for two weeks and see where it takes me

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamC View Post
    Rubbish lol IF ANYONE TELLS ME THE HEAD IS TOO SMALL, I KNOW
    The head is not too small, it's the body which is too big !!

    Anyway, the colors from your last painting are really cool, especially the sea ! Keep the digital painting up !

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    Walid D: Hehe I guess it depends how optimistic you are . Cheers, personally don't like it all, was a bitch to paint because it was such a pixally ref picture. Cya round

    Will get some hands, sp and posemaniacs done later, really tired atm, schools just finished and I feel like I could sleep for days haha.

    B&W...THESE ARE SO INSANELY FUN

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    Enviro painting. I'm picking up on a lot of things for colour theory. For instance, the sea is completely grey but reflects the sun. The ship I drew looks metallic but only actually has one shade of grey in it, all the rest is blue. The warm colours tend to be yellow orange and red hues, whereas the cold ones are purple, dark blue. I attempted painting a person from ref before this, but failed quite quickly because the colours I used weren't subtle enough, and I ended up with oranges and purples flying around. I think I'm going to try a low tempt enviro as well today to mix things up, and maybe painting something from greyscale.

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    dude! …yeah! exactly!
    keep pushing! I see It growing good!
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    Sweet! lovin these enviros and yeh B/W is so much fun eh! I'm off now till early Jan so I'll be spending more time on fun art stuff and should be able to give you some more pointers on perspective etc. got to go do some stuff right now but will be back soon to do those paintovers and respond to your questions keep rockin dude!

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    bigfooTrooper: Cheers for the push up man, comments like that keep me trying

    The7Artist7: Nice man and thanks again for the support and help

    Was inspiring/torturing myself by looking at Alexander Pascenko's SB, got annoyed that I wasn't painting and tried to draw some bits of my face from life, sort of getting chunks before I try a SP. Skin tones are really hard, but I think I'm improving on them, they're a real bitch to paint >.< My chair faces away from the light so my skin looks darker, I guess when I get to my digi SP it'll all look fine.

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    Good job man. Loving the newest environment.
    On the newest digi, the lips seem a bit off. The dark space between the lips is too intrusive.
    Nice eye though, I would love to see you refine some stuff!

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    Those are from life? awesome dude, real improvement.

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    Fraz: Cheers, I know I really should have taken more time to those lips. I'll try, I'm just really not confident with colour D:

    Miles_: Yeah, thanks I wish I could see the improvement

    Really really shit enviro. Do more >.<
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    Pencils as of late. Need to sort my lines, I'm going back over them loads and do more studies. I sent off for a Bridgeman book so I won't be relying on my pc for study and get distracted by the internet Life stuff is a bit bad, sorry.
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    Heh I'm either having a bad day or I'm suddenly shit at everything D:

    I still suck at female anatomy
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    I'M SO ANNOYED WITH THIS when i finished it i was like wow, it looks like me and it's probably the best I've ever drawn in my life Then the scanner raped it and i realized how distorted the eye is, and how shitty the values are.
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    Something I can't be bothered to finish.
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    Perspective and some crappy doodles
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    I'm in a bad mood because I finally started to like my work and then put too much pressure on myself and died etc. Will probably take a break tommorow, I feel burnt out D: And I know, it takes time and stuff, I'm just being weird atm

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