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    Ps Square brush

    I know this sounds like a retarded query, but I am looking for a square brush for photoshop and the ones I made insofar suck. Anyone have suggestions, settings, actual brushes they can share?

    Thanks.

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    Why lad I know what you need! You need to buy Whit Brachna's snow mountain dvd sold exclusively by massive black. Not only is it a superb process by one of today's leading environmental artists, it comes free with Whit's personal set of brushes featuring many square-like patterns.

    So have your credit card ready and prepare to blast your senses away with Whit Brachna's Snow Mountain tutorial pack only $15.00 from Massive Black. Remember, if you ain't got the 'Black, you ain't got jack.

    (how was that mr manley?)

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    are you talking about the ones in the presets?

    http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shottl0.jpg

    (i bet its not thats simple and i'm the one giving a retard awnser )

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    Are you looking for a square brush, or just something that simulates a flat brush?

    I haven't found a great way to simulate a flat, because even at 1% spacing, you'll see gaps on any kind of change of direction. Since Photoshop brushes are just stamps of shapes repeated very close together, it's inevitable that some shapes don't lend themselves well to being brushes and getting what you expect out of them.

    For short strokes that only go in one direction you can make a more rectangular shape and set it to 1% spacing. In Shape Dynamics, turn on Angle Jitter and set it to Direction. Any line that changes direction by too much though will end up with annoying gaps as the stamp tries to navigate the change. I like to round the edges of my rectangular shape to make the lines seem more smooth.

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    If you feather your edge a few pixels you can kill off the jagged edge and with a 1% spacing it will keep its 'hardness'.

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    I guess yes I am trying to find a way of simulating a flat oil brush without having to use painter. Because you know, I hate painter.

    Anyway yes I do have a problem with the gaps that the brush leaves so I don't really know what to do with it.

    I'll keep looking in the meantime.

    Thanks.

    And no I'm not spending monies on dvds I have a limited amount of money and much rather spend it on supplies.

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    Something like this maybe?

    Ps Square brush

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    Yes that would work pretty damn well.

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    Better start saving then since I've used this software to make the brush strokes, Ps will always break the brush stroke when using flat brushes and since flat brushes are very import to me I pretty much block all my colors and shapes using that flat brush I showed, plust you have two types of blending options!

    http://www.systemax.jp/en/sai/

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    Problem with that is that I use mac not windows.

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    Not as fancy as that but here is just a straight up square brush minus the jaggeys

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    Quote Originally Posted by evildisco View Post
    Problem with that is that I use mac not windows.
    ditto ..hopes raised then dahsed

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    Flat brush emulation tip:
    I've found that if start with your rectangular brush to that it's wider than it is tall, then rotate it to 90 degrees you get far less craziness in turns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portus View Post
    Something like this maybe?

    Ps Square brush
    Looks like stock Painter brushes to me.

    My work: [link]
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    Try to recreate those brush strokes in Painter, no way you'll manage to get them that smooth and with no flow brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portus View Post
    Try to recreate those brush strokes in Painter, no way you'll manage to get them that smooth and with no flow brakes.
    I think that depends on your settings actually. The flow breaks iirc are actually due to spacing of the brush, which you can adjust in Painter.

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    evildisco and anyone else interested, i made these meself, feel free to use them as you will guys.

    first three are brushes, the last one is a blender brush to be used with Photoshops "smudge" tool.

    enjoy!

    http://rapidshare.com/files/15471274...quare.zip.html

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    you can definetly make smooth brushes like that in painter Portus

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    That's quite smooth, is that a captured dab or did you just squeeze the brush?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portus View Post
    That's quite smooth, is that a captured dab or did you just squeeze the brush?
    You really don't even need to do a captured dab Portus. It's just a matter of understanding Painter brush customizations.

    http://apps.corel.com/painterx/uk/es...damentals.html

    A lot of the brushes do various things like color variations, respond to grain (the paper) etc.

    One thing to do, is turn the the Opacity up to 100% You can also turn the Resat up to 100% too.

    Method should be cover.

    I usually use the Digital Watercolor myself. So I guess it depends what you want to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portus View Post
    Try to recreate those brush strokes in Painter, no way you'll manage to get them that smooth and with no flow brakes.
    You should spend more time exploring Painter. Wonderful program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    You really don't even need to do a captured dab Portus. It's just a matter of understanding Painter brush customizations.

    http://apps.corel.com/painterx/uk/es...damentals.html

    A lot of the brushes do various things like color variations, respond to grain (the paper) etc.

    One thing to do, is turn the the Opacity up to 100% You can also turn the Resat up to 100% too.

    Method should be cover.

    I usually use the Digital Watercolor myself. So I guess it depends what you want to do.
    Yeah I know all that since I've made a ton of brushes in Painter, it's just that I've noticed some fringing at the end of oalexis brush strokes and I can't tell if they are the result of a pixel staircase or from a capture dab. In SAI you can set a flat brush to end the brush stroke with a very thin bristle fringe which I quite like, would be awesome to mimic that in Painter too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    You should spend more time exploring Painter. Wonderful program.
    I know Painter good enough but there are some things I don't know well like nozzles and damping since my PC is too slow for brushes with high damping and nozzles are just too tiresome to do, I was also never able to do good razor flat brush in Painter possibly due to my PC speed (more spacing faster brush, less spacing slower brush) hence why I use SAI specially for flat brushes since it's really fast and smooth.


    These are all custom brushes and shapes I made for Painter, it is indeed an awesome program:

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    Change the Dab type, you may get closer to what you're looking for. Like Camelhair. Then you can change the brush profile and squeeze to something you like.

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    Camel Hair is too soft, the only solution I've found is to squeeze the brush to 20%, angle to 90º and using Flat Cover, the problem now is that if I want the brush to follow the angle of the brush stroke I have to set Angle Range to 360º which makes Painter have to recalculate everytime I resize unless I set Min Size to 100%. Again not perfect solution and not equal to SAI at all but good enough I guess... now if you capture a rectangule dab with 12x80px you get very close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portus View Post
    Camel Hair is too soft, the only solution I've found is to squeeze the brush to 20%, angle to 90º and using Flat Cover, the problem now is that if I want the brush to follow the angle of the brush stroke I have to set Angle Range to 360º which makes Painter have to recalculate everytime I resize unless I set Min Size to 100%. Again not perfect solution and not equal to SAI at all but good enough I guess... now if you capture a rectangule dab with 12x80px you get very close.
    Did you try adjusting the boost or spacing so that it doesn't recalculate so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    Did you try adjusting the boost or spacing so that it doesn't recalculate so much?
    I'm not sure but I think spacing and boost don't interfere much with brush range calculation, doesn't matter too much for me tho since I bought SAI for some features and Painter 6 for other features, it's great because both applications load instantly.

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    I'll point this thread to Jin in the Painter forums, can't hurt to see what she says.

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    Hi evildisco,

    I've read through this thread quickly, and it seems you and some others are using Photoshop, at least one is using another program, and some either don't like or don't understand Painter (or both).

    Arshes Nei, Blue, and others have made some good suggestions.

    Bottom line, try the suggestions you've been offered by Arshes Nei, Blue, and others who really offered help.

    If anyone here has software that does what you want, then use it.

    If you want to use Painter, then learn it. It takes time and if you don't want to spend the time, you won't learn Painter.

    Arshes Nei,

    I don't think I can offer more than has already been offered by some of you, since evildisco is using Photoshop and wants help with Photoshop brushes.

    My expertise is with Painter, not Photoshop though I use it now and then.

    Thanks for asking me to help, but I don't think there's much I can do to help evildisco considering the circumstances.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    Hi evildisco,

    I've read through this thread quickly, and it seems you and some others are using Photoshop, at least one is using another program, and some either don't like or don't understand Painter (or both).

    Arshes Nei, Blue, and others have made some good suggestions.

    Bottom line, try the suggestions you've been offered by Arshes Nei, Blue, and others who really offered help.

    If anyone here has software that does what you want, then use it.

    If you want to use Painter, then learn it. It takes time and if you don't want to spend the time, you won't learn Painter.

    Arshes Nei,

    I don't think I can offer more than has already been offered by some of you, since evildisco is using Photoshop and wants help with Photoshop brushes.

    My expertise is with Painter, not Photoshop though I use it now and then.

    Thanks for asking me to help, but I don't think there's much I can do to help evildisco considering the circumstances.


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    Hi Jin, oh we understand evildisco's predicament, but it was Portus and I that were looking for information on the brush settings for Painter to create a smooth brush similar to the one he's showing in Sai Paint.

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