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    Hi to Strassbourg, I live in Toronto now but I lived in Offenburg.

    Well you got some awesome stuff here, and where do you have the pictures from,...
    I am talking from the Black and White shots.

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    good one...!

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    let's goooo brooo more stuff
    if it helps you should paint some girls haha

    gosh there is some awesome critique and tips in this thread
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    lolbbq : thanks g, really useful advices ! I'm gonna take a look at Reilly quick sketch method ! Peace

    towy : thanks dude !

    Φ phil : thanks dude ! Yeah, i was just trying to apply what i learned, but seems i didn't learn much ! I'm doing some life painting in greyscale, i find them more interesting than painting from a greyscale photo, it's harder to get the right values when there are colors, and even more when it's from life ^^

    T.a.i.v.a.s : yo gangsta, tranquille, bien la famille ? go msn plus souvent si tu veux qu'on se fasse des thunderdome et des speeds !! ptetre avec alew si elle a du temps libre, a 2 c'est bien, a 3 c'est mieux ( oui, je parle bien de faire un thunderdome, haha ^^ )

    HerrleerzeichenS : thanks for stoping by my sb dude, yeah, updates are coming ^^

    iven : oh cool, i used to go to kehl and offenburg to get some food, it's cheaper ^^ ! Well for the b&w shots, if you're talking about the portraits, i pick them up there : http://www.portrait-photos.org/ ! Peace !

    bharat : Thanks dude ! Btw, i noticed i forgot to tell you about school ! Well, for now i'm doin a degree in astronomy, but i think i'm gonna go to an illustration school for the next year ^^ !!

    Jaytea : free education ? no ay, each time you wanna look at my sb, it'll cost you 10 bucks ! Stuff here is better than massive black stuff and cheaper than their videos ! everyone MUST choose me ! And i'd become riich muahahahahahahaha DDDD !

    Well, i'm not dead, and still drawing and painting ! i decided to overcome this creativity block, because i'm pissed off of not being able to have good ideas and use them for my art ! i know that studies are important, but the goal of what i'm doing isn't to make great studies, but great pieces from imagination , especially if i wanna find a job later haha ( more if my goal is to work for mb ^^ ) Haha, i saved all the mb stuff from their site, and organized them into folders, like characters, creatures, enviros ... and damn, it's even more motivating to see all these character designs ! i'll study all of them, will work on silhouette, body language, design, values, everythiiing !!!!! wow, seems like i'm writing too much, hope someone will read all of it ! if it's not the case, well, i forgive you, ca members, but gimme criiiits !!!

    Well, here are a quick value study from mind, and some silhouette for my next character designs. For the silhouettes, i need your advices about which one s i can choose to work on ! i like the 5, and i find that 3 has a good begining ! I'm also studying faces, Adrian's always motivating me, so it's cool ^^

    Well i'll post new stuff this evening, now i just wanna draw !!


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    Hello daddy, thanks for being back. You should do an illustration from the silhouette 3 or 5, it looks like something that can be deemed interesting.

    KEEP IT UP YOUNG BOY!

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    no you cocky SOB I talking about the people who comment giving an education GOSH >:CCCCCC

    also agreed with shamandalie 3 and 5 are pretty radddd
    I recall seeing in a ifx workshop somewhere or other that it helps to have a "character base" sort of thing, so you can just pull out a simple male/female fullbody sketch and then start working over that for silhouettes/designs. It saves you time because you won't have to worry so much about proportions--just designing. Keep at it bro!

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    Ooooo I wanna see what 5 looks like a little bit more, awesome work though man keep it up.

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    hey sup Walid I know how you feel drawing from imagination its a pain.
    All i can say is just keep drawing and studying and building your refrence libary. You have improved so much in your sketchbook man keep it up!
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    Fuck yeah! Walid D BACK!!

    Niccce sillo's man, good to see the Still life to, keep rockn' it bro!
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    Okay, crits. I think the thermos thingie is looking pretty good. It seems a bit plain, though. There are just a couple areas od dark darks and bright highlights, while the rest of it is mostly grey. That may be what the object looks like, so I don't know. Maybe add some texture to it as well? Is it brushed metal or anything?

    The silhouettes are interesting, but I bet you could add more little hints here and there of costume elements, or hair or something.

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    One thing you may find fun is to try to sillos without thinking of them as figurative. Sometimes its nice to start from an abstract base.

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    wouesh gros ;-p...tes valeurs sont bonnes a mon avis...enfin moi rien ne me choque, je pensais meme que c'etait un debut de travail d'après nature. Par contre, a premiere vue, il y a quelques boulettes dans tes proportions pour tes silhouettes( j'imagine que ca vient du fait que ca a été tracé vite fait ), je pense que celle qui fonctionne le mieux est la numero 5 (en fait elle est meme pas mal du tout). Je trouve par contre la numero 2 trop rigide alors que le mouvement de flottement du vetement du numero 1 est nickel. 'fin bref, tu continues a bien progresser....keep it up

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    silhouettes are always fun i think i see some minor perspective errors on the life painting....keep goin

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    Ur sillos are nice man, stay in that direction bro

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    You have a good sens to choose models..... :-)...but take care when you try to create parts you can't see. For exemple the neck of the tattooed girl is very thick...remember that girls are beautiful ( et si tu le vois pas sur la photo honnetement :-p ) so don't draw a male neck please.
    for the other girl, take care of the ellipse you draw to create volumes of her left arm....you draw ellipse in the wrong sens....( en français parce que je me melange en anglais.....les ellipses sont dessinées comme si le bras venait vers nous alors qu'il est incliné plus dans la direction de son dos....matte son épaule au passage...les arretes du cube en pers' ne sont pas correctes...)...but these are good jobs, you continue to improve....keep it up....

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    haha harsh crits is what you want walid, well here ya go: put the porn down and start sketching, use those hands in a constructive way rather than the other, muhahahha!!

    sup man long time, sorry been away for a while, hope all is well! I think construction is great but i think your forms could be a bit more expressive with gestural studies and then focus on volume with the cylindrical studies you did above. Very much like glen vilppu aproach in his drawing manual

    well how's it going playah! where them new paints you said u were getting, post some of them color studies up soon!!

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    Booooon y'a du progrès c'est cool, mais je confirme les dires de "Dessinateur" : il y a effectivement quelques petits problêmes dans la construction.
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    Okay, here are a few suggestions/things I noticed about the studies you just posted. Going to focus on the tattoo girl with the nasty boobs...

    The values for the skin are generally way too dark. It seems to me that only the darker areas, like the left side of her belly, her crotch, under the right boob, and her neck (which looks pretty Photochopped, now that I look at it) should be as dark as you've made almost all of the skin.

    Don't forget that there are at least 2 light sources in this photo. The main one is behind the camera, while the secondary one is off to the right, and somewhat behind the model. You're only showing illumination from the secondary source right now.

    One thing you might try before drawing the figures freehand is to sort of trace over the photo, laying down muscles and structure. Sort of like practice before you freehand it.

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    Analyzing form like that is great! While you're doing those, you could try to figure out the underlying muscles at the same time.. Seems you're missing some of the insertion points of the muscles while doing your ellipses.

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    Do a ton of gesture drawings, Walid. Get a big pile of those porn refs and just do what you did in the last post, but do more of them and faster. One thing that will help your figure drawing a lot is to build up a loose sense of the figure and how it moves, gesture studies are the way. Use ref photos, other people's drawings and your imagination. And then repeat.

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    Hey Walid, if you're have trouble with values i can suggest doing more studies from life and of subjects more simple than the female form. One thing that would help you is cast drawing. I think thats what they do at the CA atelier.

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    walidoh where you bro?! I agree with what everyone has mentioned above as well but one thing in particular about values, simplify into the most basic values light, mid, dark, then after you've established that start to work on halftones and core shadow. If you start to try and get to involved with the slight subtle value shifts early on in a sketch and you are comparing one slight value shift to the next, you will be lost in a sea of tones! So keep it simple then expand on relative values.

    One thing that would help you is cast drawing. I think thats what they do at the CA atelier.
    yea Grand Central Academy of Art has a very similar approach as well, you do casts, still life, figure for the first 2 years in pencils, charcoal, etc and they don't even start you off in paint until the third year or you're proficient in the other dry mediums. This is one atelier approach but an awesome teacher I had in the past Dan Thompson broke off from the Jacob Collins GCA and structured a new atelier called the Janus Colloaborative in Spanish Harlem and they don't even do any cast studies and go right into life figure drawing. I guess there's many different approaches but the underlying thing is the same when trying to do representational art important thing is to observe and interpret the form to a 2D medium.

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    Thanks all for your comments ! i'll reply on each one's sketchbook later ! Here is a small Industrial design, really bad design, but well i do what i can ^^ i tried to be focused on values, but i should be focused on everything !! anyway, here it is !


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    My spidersense is tingling when i see it, so you might want to try putting a perspective grid on top that walking cube thingie. About the naked ladies, constructive is good, but keep focussing on the drawing your making as well. (If it makes any sense what i'm saying.) And i was thinking, if you're living in a pretty big city in France, would it be possible that somewhere someone's holding model classes there? Because that's better than porn, just saying. And hello again btw!

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    Nice tonal value for the ID sketch. I suggest trying looser strokes for figure studies to get the overall feel of the gesture.

    Keep it up bro.

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    the studies look good , in the one with the shapes i think the cast shadow wold be more darker

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    on your ID:
    sometimes your cast light is bouncing off from no where--on the side that faces us, you have bounce light from the ground, but you have a shadow on the ground, and the overall form casting a shadow on the leg, so you don't really have any bounce light on that face...did that make sense?

    good job so far--though I think if you are really going to go the "atelier" way, then again: start with cast drawings.

    it might be easier too to start off with line forms, instead of blocked in+full value forms.
    drawing the wire frame work for things will help you to overlap the shapes and etc.

    i don't know much about ID but i hope that helps.

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    Lol didn't expect those nude pics especially not when my mom was behind me lol.
    Anyway cool stuff you got in here. Some interesting thumbnails up above and good to see you really trying to nail your fundamentals. LEarning how to render the basics shapes and such. I think you're definately improving on that area. Last ones look really good. Love how you used the cast shadow and great value range. Awesome stuff.

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    very goods stuff. I especially liked the industrial design because values and light seem to be well rendered
    keep it up!

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    hey man ive been following your sketchbook for a while but never got around to posting much (not quite sure why )

    anyways i love how confident you are getting with your digital work i would love to see you work hard with some more water colors and acrylics then take what you learn back to digital as apposed to the other way around

    hope to see more soon. keep up the wonderfull work !

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