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    I'm starting to think that I simply can't work the way Vilppu does, I just struggle too much with putting construction on top of the gesture. I normally make the construction flow with the gesture rather than keeping the two completely separate. Placing stiff construction on top of a loose gesture is very unnatural to me. I think the point that I might have been missing is that he wants the figure to have solid visual structure which just means hards against softs, straights against curves, design, etc. I guess I'm beginning to realize that I have been worrying far too much about the method when what matters is the result. So from now on, I'm going to try to just do what works for me rather than force myself to apply his method. Hopefully I can be more productive working in that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Cam View Post
    I'm going to try to just do what works for me rather than force myself to apply his method.
    We should never forget that "There are no rules, just tools!"

    I think they expose methods to show us how they use the tools. Methods are interesting to study but you definitively don't have to stick to them (hey after all there is no rules!). From my point of view the teaching behind all this is:
    1. Find out which tools work best for you (so try them all!!)
    2. Create your OWN method


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    Quote Originally Posted by DiR3Kt View Post
    We should never forget that "There are no rules, just tools!"

    I think they expose methods to show us how they use the tools. Methods are interesting to study but you definitively don't have to stick to them (hey after all there is no rules!). From my point of view the teaching behind all this is:
    1. Find out which tools work best for you (so try them all!!)
    2. Create your OWN method
    I know I know lol, I have been telling myself that for a long time now but I guess I was having a hard time actually believing it. As I said a couple posts up, from what I can tell, most of the very best artists in the industry use Vilppu's method and I wanted more than anything to emulate them. I think I over complicated the process in my mind which killed the flow. Because of the fact that I really only have books and instructional videos to go by (no in-person art teacher), I have been forced to get into the habit of over-thinking things since there was never anyone there to give me the answers. I know that I draw much better (and I certainly have more fun) when I'm drawing the way that is natural for me. Maybe the reason I tried so hard to alter my method is because I felt that if I kept drawing that way without change, my results would not change and I would retain all of my bad habits.

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    Honestly I probably wouldn't post these otherwise but I really haven't produced anything better (haven't been that productive lately I guess). I'm still learning when it comes to painting. The tree is my first tree ever (I don't count that marker one) and there are many mistakes but I really learned a lot from doing it.

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    Wow I like that girl, the tilt of the torso is rockin!! To stay constructive I would say that the foot is either wrong or not clear enough.

    What is the construction is red on the right ? Is it from a book or from yourself ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiR3Kt View Post
    Wow I like that girl, the tilt of the torso is rockin!! To stay constructive I would say that the foot is either wrong or not clear enough.

    What is the construction is red on the right ? Is it from a book or from yourself ?
    I agree about the foot not being well defined. I figured that having an ugly foot was better than just not drawing it though (as is my usual habit). I wanted to put the hand in there too but I guess I got lazy. Yes, the red one is another from Hampton's book.

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    I feel like the overall quality of my work has been slipping lately so hopefully some time this weekend I can sit down and really try to make something wonderful. For now however, this is all I've got. The drawings on the binder paper were just some doodles I did in class. I think that I need to try harder to make my trees look leafy rather than fuzzy. I have so many areas that could use improvement that I really don't know where to start. If I tried to list them here but I'd probably be typing all night. Well, we'll see what I can do for the next update, hopefully something more impressive.

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    I like how the studies are going.

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    The second tree looks better imho so just keep what you are doing.

    I like the figures on the top right they have lot of movement.

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    Studies are looking great man. Just do more.


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    ninjacat11- Thanks
    DiR3Kt- Thanks, I think that the colors of the second tree are more realistic looking but it still has problems. I need to keep working on it.
    krel- I draw several times more than what I actually post here, it's just that not everything that I produce is good enough to show, lol.

    The binder paper one is another doodle I did during class (I have regular paper in my sketchbook too, I just forget to flip to it when I get the urge to doodle I guess). The second one is two studies from Hampton's book and a half finished figure drawing that turned out surprisingly good considering I was barely paying attention (the red one), and the last one is a study of a drawing by Sheldon Borenstein.

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    The form of our gesture drawings are fabulous.I think you have a really good feel for the human body and it's anatomy.

    I look forward to when you start building these bodies into characters.

    Great job;keep up the good work (:

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    Chelli- Thank you. I will probably start doing other stuff more often once I feel that I have learned most everything about figure drawing (as in, all the basics). I'm not there yet, I still have a lot to learn.

    The first is a doodle I did in school from imagination and the second one was done with a ballpoint pen from Hampton's book. No big deal.

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