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    this is (supposed to be) the mermaid after she has drunken the sea witch's potion which turns her into a human...

    a good chance to do a "figure-as-landscape-approach";

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    Character test...
    You guys get some very good sketches already!

    Thanks for the photo ref.

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    Some sketches.

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    Wow these are looking fantastic! These are so inspirational. I definitely want to get started on a character design as well...

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    sketches...have to work out good poses and a colourscheme.

    slash - damn you got your proportions down! did you use reference? i feel like i could grasp out to her.
    clochette - love the vibes i get from these pics. the one with her washing her hair (?) is especially funny.

    edit: i highly recommend taking a look at this thread. possibly my main inspiration so far.

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    hello chow people!
    this is my first try at participating at chow... lett me know if i do something wrong!

    i tried to make the mermaid form wild, fishy and free (since the describtion of rites of passages with attatching oysters etc) versus the maiden form biedermeier-y / bourgeois as a reference to andersen's own time and his moralizing tale.
    both are rather boring plain views on the character i didn't dare to try doing full blown illustrations this time, i hope that's ok, too.
    still much work ahead of me...


    carnifex i like your mermaid design! very fantastical! the maiden version is interesting but looks a bit elvish or so not like a real human. dunno if that's a prob. and thank you for the great link - that's beautiful!

    tmyohlaing nice flowing sketches! i think there is a problem with the head of the one to the right.

    clochette great style! so much fun to look at!

    ccsears that looks truly like figure as a landscape! i look forward to see this finished!

    slash wow - that's pretty realistic! and i like the fish elements you included. something bothers me about the light on her left boob.

    the whistler i love how you incorporate both versions in one piece - this solution looks beautiful!

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    The human form is only a thumb for now. Not too sure if I'll commit to the pose. Her legs below the knees will be stained red, and the swords are intended as graphical symbols, rather than literal swords. Her skin will be pale - almost sickly pale.

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    Project Gutenberg "The Mermaid" with Edmund Dulac color illustrations available here. It's down the page a bit.

    This is great, I have the Dulac's work, all the great stuff here and Donato's "The Golden Rose" all swirling in my head.

    How am I supposed to summon up any originality!!!!
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    More progress.. Starting the colors, still very rough, the fish tail is close to how i want it tho, colorwise.

    Carni: yeah, i've used reference, but i've taken some liberties with it, using it only as a base for the anatomy, pose and lighting.

    Thanks to everyone who have commented! I appreciate it greatly. I will take the time to give feedback later.

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    Alright crit and update tiems!

    zephyri - DOOD. i. am. in LOVE with how much subtlety and character your mermaid sketches have!!! JALEOUS!! the thoughtful mermaid inthe borrom right corner ees mai faaave!

    Supervlieg very nice choice of colors and stylisation! im looking forward to your update!

    Poshspice - second sketch is so win, I weep. 5th also, so im glad you're going with that one stop being so awsm dammit!! ><

    MJ_Alcazar - good start! on the mermaid sketch, i cant really tell where she ends and the reef starts! and watch those faces! ^^

    Slash - you has a gorgeous but i do second robert on the ear! she looks so real and happy, ct wait to see wut happens with the human form! also looking fwd to colors on that one!

    DIMAGYAN - very interesting design overall, but tbh the plain ol' tail kinda ruins it. make some of the design flow, and some of it rigid, its more interesting, look at goldfish! (for the fin on her haid for examply) its a biot too rigid right now... (i might suffer from the reverse of your problem ;P)

    Baxter-E - not too fond of the way those arms attach to the torso/shoulder, have you reffed your pose?

    Adele - so dynamic! love the expression! pers preference: id make those arms longer...

    Vineris - love the original design and 50's feel! push it moar! it needs some fleshing out, but its still the design phase im guessing, so ill wait for further updates...

    WTFSteph - im gonna tread on Slash's turf here and say watch how you're attaching the boobs to the torso! and the shoulder/hips ratio as well! lovely adorable faces, tho also "human" form looks like an alltogether diffrent person, mind the likeness!

    maguinness - love the torso, not so much the face... lighting will be very interesting in this, looking fwd to it! I would curve the tail more tho like in your first sketch... so fluid!

    Havoc-DM - noice design dude! she doesnt look as innocent as Andersen described tho? just throwing it out there

    DecayingLolita - idk aboutthat green on the bottom bu im loving how pale she is... nice contrast


    monotony - like the composition! (cross) mermaid's shoulders are a bit broad tho, methinks?

    zenichi - i liked the mermaid sketch with a bit of perspective (in the second to last page) more than the pose you chose... awr well

    Cup_of_Tea? - the hair needs more volume away from the cranium, idk if im being clear at all lol... also the transition between body/fishtail seems a bit... harsh/off? im not too sre on this one...

    DefiledVisions - i am LOVING this loose sketch!! cant wait to see where you take it!

    bitjockey - good start, ill hold comments till you update with more!

    dirkvandulmen - nice! yellow/green contrast = ! but wheres the innocence? ;-;

    KleeWyck torso seems a bit... long and masculine? on this mermaid. ._.
    the composition is a good idea tho!

    The Whistler - nice composition! one thing tho: there is no weight in that mermaid: her ass doesnt seem to be affected or leaning on the rock at all!

    ccsears - original! waiting to see where you take it!

    Clochette - I LOVE THEM!! so playful and adorable!! faves: one furthest up and the one all the way down

    tmyohlaing - i like your sketching style a lot! my fav is the one in the middle, tho id bend her more!

    Carnifex - love the mermaid design!! and the maiden's face!

    katinki - smthg is def off about that mermaid's torso... lovely clothes thumbnails!

    mcmatz - JUST DO EET!!

    PHEW

    and now for my lousy update: heads up: haet the face, will change it. also the thing on her head is a little lantern like those lantern fishies, since well she lives in te deepest cornes of the sea, girl needs her flashlight, right?
    sketch can be found in my sb

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    Okees, here's a drawing of her Merform. We'll see if I get a human version and a paint out by the deadline. Love the topic though.

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    more chow wip... pretty much only using a "square chalk" brush in painter on this. did the drawing with "dirty marker" though. basically trying to keep layering to an absolute minimum and paint as directly as possible.

    it looks a little too pink right now, but that should be easy to fix. probably a calibration thing with my screens.

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    If you search for "underwater" or Mermaid" on flickr.com, there are lots of pictures of people swimming underwater for inspiration for colours and poses..

    Here's what I got so far..

    My inspiration came from these quotes:

    ..the youngest was the prettiest of them all; her skin was as clear and delicate as a rose-leaf, and her eyes as blue as the deepest sea; but, like all the others, she had no feet, and her body ended in a fish’s tail.

    One arranged her flower-bed into the form of a whale (...) but that of the youngest was round like the sun, and contained flowers as red as his rays at sunset (...) she cared for nothing but her pretty red flowers, like the sun, excepting a beautiful marble statue. It was the representation of a handsome boy, carved out of pure white stone...

    (...) but she had no clothes, so she wrapped herself in her long, thick hair.

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    What wonderful sketches and ideas!

    I totally want to enter this, I have two questions though.
    Can the mermaid piece and human piece be in one canvas, or does it have to be two singles?
    And what is the size of the canvas for our entry? I looked through the info and couldn't find anything.

    Thanks in advance.

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    wow there will be lots of entries once again.

    ccsears - wow this will be a great one. think the format of it is very good.

    clochette - aww adorable. the one with hands in her hair and with legs and tail variation is specially cute.

    slash - youor coloring on the tail is very nice. looks a bit to saturated on the face maybe. cool design on the arms as well!

    petite - thanks. your ideas are great. the lantern and the long tail are great.

    katinki - wow, faces and hair on you figures look great.

    fuuryoku - great sketch. the tail is so different. nice

    zephyri - thanks for the tips! I will try to work on the bodylanguage, definately a good idea. and your sketches look awesome already.

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    I am not at all a specialist of CHOW but I think we have to make one single picture, maybe you can split in in 2 if you need... ?
    And no idea about the size, the rules tell "not too big not too small", try to see the others pic to have an idea. (I think not exceed a screen size...)

    Edit : Monotony, Petite and Carniflex : Thank you so much for the feed back guys! ^^

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    Thanks for the feedback so far guys, keep it coming!

    Ive added the second pose/char to the composition. I didnt even realize we had to do the second pose untill I saw posh' sketches. So thanks for that. Id like to weld the two poses together in a sort of dreamlike state. Like the mermaid is almost seeing her future while she holds the potion.



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    zephyri: great sketches, love the big one, i really dig the style and expression.

    Poshspice: love the composition on the top right and bottom left of the four pics. I really love the loose style of your lines. And the catch of the day is my fave, but probably a bit out there for this theme. Im not to sure about the girl sitting by the water. She looks a bit too much like a girl who's just sitting there, she's doesnt really have the regal grace about her posture that the mermaid pics have. If that makes any sense at all

    Slash: Looks great. Maybe the colors are a bit to saturated now, but Im sure you'll get round to that.

    dimagyan: Nice, I like the different approach. I would like to see how that translates to the "human" version

    baxter-e: nice one. I like the composition with the fish. The tail of the mermaid seems a bit flat though.

    Adele: Great style! Update with colors please

    vineris: Nice design, maybe its a good idea to bring over some details from the mermaid to the human. Like making the pattern return on the clothes.

    WTFsteph: I prefer the top left one of your first batch. I also like how she shared the expression with your avatar . The second update kinda lost the playfullness of the first one. And I think its mainly in the pose.

    maguinness: I like the pose, and your right about the face. I think moving her right eye a bit to the left and down will help. Im not sure about the position of the right hand. It almost looks like her arm is bend a bit too far.

    Havoc-DM: Thanks for the tips. I love the pose on the mermaid. Although I would have to say she looks very mean with that expression. The human version is perhaps a bit boyish. Could be the angry look again

    Decayinglolita: Nice update on the colors. Any plans for the human yet?

    monotony: The face of the mermaid is very manly right now. Try rounding out her jaw to make her more feminin. Also the feet of the human are maybe a bit big. I would love to see the colors!

    Zenichi: I like the more extreme pose best (bottom picture). Maybe you can make it even more extreme.

    Cup of tea: Nice pose, but need to see more!

    DefiledVisions: Nice composition. Now lets see more!

    bitjockey: need to see more!

    dirkvandulmen: Goed begin, leuke stijl. Ben benieuwd naar het vervolg!

    Kleewyck: Good start. Perhaps the face of the mermaid could be more feminin

    The whistler: need to see more!

    ccsears: Nice pose, I like the horizontal approach!

    clochette: I love the two little mermaid on the right side. Theyre so posh!

    tmyohlaing: I like the top-middle and right ones best. There the most dynamic. Perhaps the middle one is the most gracious of the two. Especially since she's royalty and all.

    Carnifex: Nice different approach. Maybe the mermaid could be a bit more handsome, her face is perhaps a bit "fishy".

    katinki: Nice start, gotta love the red hair . I love how she seems very grounded in her time. Maybe the mermaid pose can be a bit more extreme

    petitemistress: Nice start. I think you can do a bit more with such a long tail. It kinda begs to be more curly. right now its maybe a bit too static.

    fuuryoku: Nice job on the tail. The left arm doesnt really seem to be involved with the movement though. Those eyes are a bit scary!

    iuvo: Nice colors. I really like it from the torso up, the rest of her body needs more work. Her tail-area seems folded and her fin needs a bir of work on the shape. Im not to sure about the guy in the background. Maybe you can merge him a bit more into the background.

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    Here's my try, can I use clamshell's or something to use on top of her breast?,
    because they do that in the disney version, and I wanna make it to the poll
    Hope i have time for this one

    Posh's sketches own, they look so natural.
    Slash's WIP seems pretty realistic and cool.
    I really like Katinki's style.

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    So... gonna TRY to finish this week, barring any more natural disasters...
    Sketches for now, more soon... feeling very Waterhousey this week.

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    Edit - some greyscale painting, still noodling. Comments and such soon...

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    Thanks for the C&C everyone.

    Posh: Good call on the swap on the fish. Definitely looks better than the original setup.

    petitemistress: Unfortunatly no, started this one w/o ref after searching for a bit.

    Not much to said other than whats beens already said, diggin a lot of the entries!

    Got a bit exicted about color and got ahead of myself throwing in some color and values before cleaning up all the linework. :X

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    sketchy starts

    some initial sketches, flowy fin cuffs, removed the waist, put in some gills. ill add something more finished up later, as well as more human versions.

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    checked to see what a reflection would look like... i kind of like it. need to save doing this for last though.

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    more work.

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    more work. i need a boob model, haha. very difficult to do a pose like this from imagination halfway decently. gravity affects flesh in ways that are hard to visualize unless you've just drawn a bunch of similar poses. i just did a pose similar to this from a slightly different angle, but she was wearing a bikini which supports things differently.

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    whatever. back to work.

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    Quick update I'm playing around with. Tried making her less sinister, but I'm not sure which version I like better. Also not sure if I'll keep the two 'x'ed arms in version B.

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    Hi..
    I have been watching and enjoying this forum for over a year...
    I will try to get involved now...

    So this is my first sketch... not so good but.. still in progress...

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    Great Sketches so far!!

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    Posh: now you're just showing off... eheheh. Love the two greyed in pics. And the pin up is classic posh - you should do that anyway!

    Defiled Visions: the rough ahs some nice promise.. Love the idea of having them almost interacting through the water, very fitting!

    bitjockey: the mermaid's looking unique at the moment.. would be great to see it done bigger and really fleshed out with details. Liking the skirt design on the right too. Watch your proportions on the human figure though, she's looking a little big-headed!


    Decaying Lolita: I really like the coolness of it and her paleness offset by that... defintiely makes her feel more ethereal.

    dirkvandulmen: interesting style, and I really love the colour combo of that mucky orange with the greens of her hair and the water. Only nitpick I'd have with it is she doesn't look that young and innocent, but these things are open to interpretation!

    Kleewyck: eheh nothing wrong with cliches and yours isn't looking THAT cliche... like the 'ears and the way you've got more texture on her torso too, and that mass of curly hair is definitely unique!

    Whistler... Love the composition... can't wait to see it fleshed out!

    Slash: really loving those bright clours on her, and the personality you've given her in the face. I just adore those ears, they're awesome!

    CCSears: Really loving your approach to this and the colours are gorgeous. Are you using any ref thus far? How are you gonna tackle the human version of her?

    Clochette: great personality in her! I adore the second one in on the top where she's bending over, that facial expression is just so cute!

    tmyohlaing: Liking the bottom one on the rock so far... she has a great sense of being lost in thought, but the one on the right could be more unusual.

    Carni: Thanks for that link.. I'd been hunting for the artist who'd done that carousel piece forever! The mermaid is looking neat so far.. unmistakably fishy.. and I really like how you've incorporated her same kind of silhouette into her human form too.

    Katinki: Beautiful linework and continuity between the two figures with the hair. Can't wait to see that done a little more.

    Havoc: Still digging the mermaid! The human version doesn't really seem to have much correlation with her fishy counterpart though. Still just a thumb though, so see where you take it!

    Petitemistress: Thank you! Eheh the angler fish thing crossed my mind once or twice, nice to see someone went with it. Her fin deisng is pretty meat too... not so mad on the hair at the minute though, would love to see a little more refinement in that.

    fuuryoku: she\s got quite the charm about her.. love the more aquatic features but not being too alien and the eel tail is a great touch!

    iuvo: Lovely colours on that sketch so far... and she has a nice innocence about her with the facial expression. I'd maybe think about looking at a little ref for her body as her boobs seem to be very high and very perky in comparison with the length of her torso. Her hair's gorgeous though, great job on making it seem thick.

    Supervlieg: Nice way of getting the two images to connect and having her clinging to a tree for support actually works surprisingly well!


    DHTenshi: Love the close up version of her thinking... thats really nice! and the more triabl aspect of her markings in an unusual take on it too.

    Jessi: Man I love your sketches. And you do interaction better than any artist I know... every time you intertwine bodies it looks enviably natural. Any plans to finish the last Chow, cause I absolutely adored the direction you were going with that piece.

    Jason Strutz:
    nice sketches so far... really liking the bottom right, her hair is brilliant!

    man.. *dies* commenting takes a looong time.
    I've update my own sketches back on page 1 for anyone curious.

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    hopefully i'll get this done this week. i'm lucky enough to have a lot of dead time on my hands. spraypainting a small figure and literally waiting for paint to dry gives me time to spend on this.

    zephyri... glad you reminded me since i didn't pay too much attention to the brief. i accidently overlooked the fine print and jump into the story. (but i was a good boy and did read the story synopsis.) i had tossed about ideas of showing her mid-transformation, but i think it will probably be suggested by her reflection in the thin layer of water on the sand.

    i'm sure everyone will have different opinions on her design... you know, whether to have pointy ears turn to human ears, how to give her a new costume, etc. for what little my opinion may be worth, i prefer to show her in a dramatic moment, lying unconscious on the beach with an empty vial. from my perspective it's more evocative.

    i'm deliberately not looking at stuff i like right now--alma-tadema, waterhouse, the romantics, etc. i've got a vague mental image of the palette they use, and i want to explore it and make my own mistakes with those ideas.

    i'm using no reference for this. (i might take a shot or two of my hands since those are always tricky). i did draw a similar pose about 2 weeks ago at a life drawing session in downtown LA, but it was from a higher, more 3/4 angle and she was wearing a gorilla mask and a bikini (don't ask...it's a long story...). occasionally i'll pose for myself just to figure out which forms overlap each other and maybe a little gesture or some weight-bearing issues, but mostly it's for ideas rather than literal reference. i'm going through a phase where i'd rather work from imagination and a composition perspective as much as possible.

    anyway. i don't want to carry on and on any further about my own crap. suffice it to say that i wanted to do something painterly because i didn't enjoy working so "tight" in black and white and then trying to "colorize" my work like i did last week. i work better if i manage to stay loose--which is pretty tricky these days.

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    Thanks for the indepth reply, always great to hear how other work. I only asked of ref as you have a great handle on the anatomy so far, should have guessed there'd be life drawing involved. Having her human version as a reflection would be a brilliant way to incorporate it, not to mention all the subtle symbolism you'd get from that. And I struggle myself with exactly how to redesign the idea.. especially when it's such a classic as this, so nice to hear some thoughts on that too.

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    Meh! If I didn't like you all so much I'd hate you all for your abilities!
    ccsears? Gorilla mask and bikini?

    I'm asking! You telling?

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