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    Photographer Jill Greenberg Reeeeally Dislikes McCain

    She's an ardent Democrat And boy, did she let her feelings be known through her work. Here's her website (NSFW) complete with ... well, you'll see...

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    she has removed the monkey poo splash page and swapped it for something tamer.
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    Google news entries are building momentum

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    ROFL. Right on.
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    awesome.
    i want to make stickers out of these and put them everywhere.
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    ooooo, that's too awesome for words. Funny how everyone here so far has had a sense of humor and agreed with her; while everyone posting on that site has made angry, upset posts about how "immature" she behaved. THAT is true political art.
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    It wasn't that she was immature as much as the fact that she was unprofessional. She used a clients setting and Time with McCain to push her own politics. Next time a client gives you a job try using it to your own gains and tint it in such a way that it costs them money, respect and credibility. Then see if you get a paycheck or more work any time soon.
    She should get blacklisted from the major mags...she just screwed her client. Some of these are kinda clever, but she should have kept them to her own photos outside the use of a clients time.
    It doesn't matter what side of the political spectrum she is on, when you are hired to to a job you do it or don't take it because of your beliefs. This kind of stuff just rubs me the wrong way. Let the politicians battle it out over there ideas, not on how bad you can make them look....jeez. "End soapbox"
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    A certain kind of politics feeds on the damaged ego of the aging but immature. They speak to each other by making horns over their enemies' heads and drawing mustaches on posters of those not in their tree house. Then they congratulate each other on their brilliant insight and feel important for twelve minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev ferrara View Post
    A certain kind of politics feeds on the damaged ego of the aging but immature. They speak to each other by making horns over their enemies' heads and drawing mustaches on posters of those not in their tree house. Then they congratulate each other on their brilliant insight and feel important for twelve minutes.
    Oh really? Here's your post in a topic about another cover, the cover of the New Yorker where Barrack and his wife are portrayed as radical muslim terrorists. As usual though I find your baffling polarity in the political spectrum to be cringe inducing. Explain how these covers are different? If you find them to be really the same thing, the same idea (which they are, they both fall into the same category) then explain why your opinion is so different with the two?

    I thought it was hilarious, innovative and really well done. However the joke seems to have backfired. Instead of making fun of the pockets of rabid loons out there who actually believe Barack is Muslim (and some kind of Manchurian Candidate and his wife is an Angela Davis type militant black power marxist revolutionary gal and they both want to destroy America), it has demonstrated just how overly sensitive and humorless the wide eyed acolyte-waifs of The Obamessiah really are. I mean, really, even Ghandi wasn't Ghandi. Barack should not be treated like a god, he's just a politician, and politicians have always been the butt of ridicule, and quite often out and out viciousness. People should just relax.
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    The Obama cartoon cover on the New Yorker was making a joking point that was too sophisticated, not too juvenile. But it was taken to be juvenile by those who think of politics in those terms. The New Yorker is a liberal democratic paper and Barry Blitt is a liberal artist and neither could be said to be against Obama.

    The McCain photographer certainly is against McCain. And those photos aren't the least bit humorous. They seem intended to do damage. And of course photos are a lot different than cartoons. People believe photos. Cartoons... not so much. Photos in a news magazine are supposed to be documentary. There has been a breach of faith with the readers of the Atlantic who expect something resembling journalistic integrity. And many people think so, including the writer of the article she was illustrating: http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.c...cain_photo.php

    The distinctions between the two covers are clear and, it seems to me, pretty obvious. One is a funny cartoon, one is a scary photograph. One is intended as commentary, the other is intended to ridicule, demonize and deceive. I'm sure you get the distinction now.

    Regardless, its the same old same old. Politics is garbage and people who take politics really seriously tend to be quite hateful people. Its more sad than outrageous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev ferrara View Post
    The Obama cover on the New Yorker was making a joking point that was too sophisticated, not too juvenile. But it was taken to be juvenile by those who think of politics in those terms. The New Yorker is a liberal democratic paper and Barry Blitt is a liberal artist and neither could be said to be against Obama.

    The McCain photographer certainly is against McCain. And those photos aren't the least bit humorous. They seem intended to do damage. And of course photos are a lot different than cartoons. People believe photos. Cartoons... not so much.

    The distinctions between the two covers are clear and, it seems to me, pretty obvious.

    Either way, your larger assumption is also wrong. I'm not outraged by the McCain photos. I think you read too much into my post because of your past issues. The photos are just typical hardball. It sells paper on which text is printed and keeps people voting "correctly".
    Nice bullshit. You're lapping up the attack from the New Yorker because it's a more 'highbrow' magazine (my ass) and because you have a chubby for McCain. 'Too sophisticated', okay, portraying a politician AND his wife as muslim radicals is sophisticated. I'm sorry, I guess I have no taste.

    I also didn't ask for a distinction between the authors of the pieces, I asked for the difference between the forms of attack. They're the same and you're making trivial little delineations. 'People believe photos more'. Oh yea? People treat terrorism more seriously than warmongers or 'black eyed demons'.

    Don't get me wrong, Obama and McCain are both whores. However, being a walking contradiction is something I have a problem with.
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    I'll stand by the distinctions I drew. They're pretty clear. There's no reason to argue any further.

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    Jill Greenberg Dropped by Photo Agency

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    mocking liars is funny for the young as well,
    perhaps just anyone disaffected.

    its not an empty gesture. humor can be very powerful even when "preaching to the converted".

    i think the likes of Shepard Fairey and ad-busters is noble and hilarious.

    and at the very least is not primarily a product of the "damaged ego of the aging but immature"
    if anything she is imitating the young guerilla movements tools.

    does anyone remember the deck of cards distributed when he war began?

    a parody came out of UC santa cruz, containing the "most wanted" as well as disturbing facts. ...i was proud to be a part of the team producing it and. you still see it selling well in california books stores or scattered university towns. it means something to some people...and its not empty bitter posturing., but the catharsis of humor.
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