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    Portrait crit needed (Sep 1 Update)

    Hey all, first post for me; joined up a while back, but as I draw exclusively for my own enjoyment Didn't find the need to post - just been watching and learning. A little about myself to start with: I'm 36 (37 in a matter of days) completely self taught (well except for high school art class) and as I already said deff. not a pro.
    I'm posting 'cus I finally want some crit/feedback. I'm currently doing a portrait of a friend (graphite - don't do paint. would like to just never learned) - He's a painter. I think I pretty much have it there is just something that isn't sitting right with me about this. I still have work to do on the eyes, and I'm not to happy with the nose either. What do you all see? as well as what's not working I'd like suggestions as to why and possibly some ideas to fix it. (I know I'm asking a lot). Is there sufficient tonal range? did I screw up by using blk. conte for the hair?

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    It's the hair. The rest fine, the likeness is very good and you handled the tones well. but the grain of the conté flattens things. You could think about smearing it out a little to get rid of that grain.

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    Self-taught or not, this is great work. Personally I believe this drawing lacks subtlety is the gradations. I don't know if I would attempt any smearing. I would first try using a greater range of pencils. Try some H and HB pencils to compliment the 2B, 4B and 6Bs.

    Overall I think you should continue to darken the tones. Try squinting at the photo and then at your drawing. You'll find that the tones of his neck seem almost as dark as his hair (when squinting). But when squinting at the drawing you'll see the neck is quite a bit lighter than the hair. Does that make sense? And I think that overall you'll find that the tones of your drawing are lighter than they should be.

    Still, it is a very good drawing.

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    Thanks a lot for the comments. I'm off to work right now, but when I get home I'll put your advice to work (from both of you). The squinting trick is really good I've heard about it before but forgot. Thanks for the reminder.

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    Although it's probably too late for this drawing, following the shape of the form with your mark making would help a great deal to describe the form. Especially in areas where there is subtle tonal variation (Jacket, T-shirt).

    Also below the mouth, sides of the nose and below the eyebrows all need to be darker. This will help pop features out like the nose and brow.

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    following the shape of the form with your mark making
    That is a technique I have only recently come across (like in the last two years or so) and I have thus far been hesitant to try it out. What grade of pencil would you suggest using for that I wouldn't want to go to light (I.E. 2h) for fear of creating scratches on the drawing surface. are there any tutorials or how-tos around for this technique? I think I'd like to try it out. Anyway it's off to work
    on this one now. Be back soon.

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    I don't know of any tutorials on this. If anyone does could you please post them.
    I have just taught myself through looking at other peoples sketchbooks. Here is a link to a couple of posts which opened my eyes up to it:

    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...3&postcount=15
    The sketches are by DanielC he's got a great sketching technique

    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...&postcount=139
    This one's by Skureal, another great.

    If you want more examples look through these guys sketchbooks. Follow links to other people's sketchbooks as well. Check out the sketchbook forum.

    As for pencils I just use either a 2b or HB. Probably should use more but it's good to limit yourself so you don't over complicate things for yourself.

    Hope I helped

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    Hope I helped
    did you ever! Wow I am so far away from being able to do that. Guess I better get my but in gear!

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    O.K. deff. improvement I think. Thanks for the advice folks. So I think I'm just about done with the face just got to try and do something with the hair and clean up the jacket. Anybody see anything I'm missing? or have any suggestions for the hair and/or jacket?


    P.S. I'm really sorry but I guess this has become more of a W.I.P. now so I probably shouldn't have posted it here. Could one of the Mods move it to the appropriate location? or should I start a sketchbook and put these in there? Help!

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    Almost there I think. Anyone see anything in the tonal range, facial features etc. that needs work/ improvement? One of the areas I need to really work on is knowing when a piece is done and I should STOP working it. My plans are to finish working up the torso and then call it finished.

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    Well I'm calling this one finished. Thanks for the help.

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