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    rlederer Projects [***UPDATED 08.27.08***Zombie Western WIP]

    Hi all, I'm working on a sketch for my next project which is a wraparound book cover for a Zombie/Western novel. Any feedback would be appreciated. Ignore rendering for now. I'm mostly looking for compositional and structural feedback. Another possible issue I'd like to hear back on is the gore level of this piece. I've got the feeling it's too much for most publishers and stores but I'd like to hear from those with experience dealing with AD's in the book publishing industry.

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    Thanks for your help in advance...

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    The tonal value of the guy on the left is too close to the horses and carriage. I presume that this going to be coloured and I’d like to see what you do with it because it cold make a huge difference.

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    I already commented on the IMC boards, but its looking great! Can't wait to see how it turns out!

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    Depends on your market - if it's a kids book then you'd need to tone down the gore, for adult, well it depends on the publishers I guess.

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    i like it is the most rendered guy a zombie or just an old guy? maybe somthing to distinguish the zombies.

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    Thanks everyone! I'll have an update in the next day or so...

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    i think its an awesome pic and I would say Its a great cover for a comic book but for a novel it seems somewhat too explicit to me, i would expect something more mysterious and less specific
    but im not the lord of the book covers ;p so maybe im wrong

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    thanks danihel. I think you're probably right. This is pretty direct. Maybe this would make a good Baen cover, lol! Put some holograms and shit on it Thanks again

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    Just make sure you leave room in the it for the discription on the back. If the are doing the discription on an inside flap would there ba part of the drawing on that?

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    Chibihomey: Thanks for the advice. Fortunately this is strait to TPB format (softcover) so no inside flap required. As for the back I'll keep that in mind as I go. Likely I'll keep the values fairly low contrast on the back as I move stuff around to fit. That way text can be placed anywhere without worrying about being unreadable. For this I'm not concerned with framing the text so much as providing a narrative texture, if you will, for it to live on. I'll play around with it some more as I go and see what works. Thanks again!

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    So here's an update to a close-to-finished version of the zombie western cover. I'm including a B/W version for the sake of simplicity and analyzing composition. The color version is unfinished. It is a single layer glaze with no color details added yet. This is a wraparound cover for a trade paper [softcover] so no inside flaps.

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    This is looking seriously scary.

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    Did you enlarged the stage coach and headshot zombie?
    They seem to be out of scale in comparison to the rest of the other zombies.
    You might need to make the crawling half zombie and the reaching zombie (to the right of the horse) larger.
    I know you were worried about gore, but they all look a little 'fresh' though I suppose that would change upon painting them.
    No vultures and flies in this one?
    Apart from that it's looking fine

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    I think this is getting closer

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    Well isn't that one sexy piece of artwork?

    The hand as a pointer doesn't really work too well. It's not that it doesn't work at all, I just feel it's pointing right over their heads.... with an action sequence I tend to read images as quickly as possible, so his might be the cause of this, but just some food for thought.

    Where's that zombie chick underneath the pointing guy's armpit going?

    I ALMOST feel put into this image because it seems you've suggested it. The zombie eating the leg in the cowboy boot is looking back at me. That's awesome and engaging.

    Please properly blow that zombie's head off. You've spared no expense on the gore here, go all the way i say!

    Edit: oh. It's a wrap-around. I guess the zombie hand doesn't matter that much... I feel like the whole compositional balance is also a lot less bothersome after I figured that out. And I guess you can't really blow the zombie's head off properly... cus it's a cover. Balls man.

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    Thanks for the feedback guys. That helped a bunch. Here's the final:

    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...=132894&page=2

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