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    Question Sudsy's Quest for improvment... Color and Composition mainly...

    I was reading Imagine FX's October 2006 Tutorial PDF, about color theory, and I figured I'd try some of the techniques described. Mainly, the schemes used, such as the Analogous Color scheme. Color and Composition are my two biggest weak spots dragging down what I can do well (mainly, drawing well...). If one cannot figure these two out, all the drawing in world is going to look off somehow...

    So I have for review here, my analogous color scheme painting. I purposely avoided spending too much time drawing the cool space craft taking off, and instead tried to convey a dusk take off scene and show mood and atmosphere over drawing detail. I ask whomever reviews this to take the time and help me figure out what I could do better color wise, and composition wise!
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    Good for you for doing these things. They'll pay off for you.

    For this pic, think about how it looks around where you live and then compare it to this. The red hills would probably be darker as well as the ship. Maybe brighten up the jet exhaust a little bit.
    When you're thinking about colours still remember to get the values of how dark/light down first.
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    Good way to start. I agree with Craig D, these will pay off and using your environment as reference is going to teach you a lot.

    I think you've got a good idea for a color scheme already, though I'd suggest implementing more blue for highlight and not using the same purple in the plane silhouette as in the mountains.

    Composition wise, this set up is pretty stagnant. Do a bunch of these simple thumbnails with the same premise in mind. Play with more interesting angles for the plane and the horizon (looking down on the landing strip or looking up into the sky.) Maybe try capturing different moments, like the plane about to take off to create more anticipation and drama.
    Be mindful about including a foreground, middle ground and background element to give the viewer an idea of how things appear spatially.

    Really explore your idea so when you finally decide what to put some hours on you're sure it's worth the time.
    Post more thumbnails!

    Good stuff, Rock on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig D View Post
    Michael
    Good for you for doing these things. They'll pay off for you.

    For this pic, think about how it looks around where you live and then compare it to this. The red hills would probably be darker as well as the ship. Maybe brighten up the jet exhaust a little bit.
    When you're thinking about colours still remember to get the values of how dark/light down first.
    I took your advice (for the most part I think, with the exception of where I live as the Mojave Desert that I was going for is far different from Fairbanks Alaska in the color of the terrain, the sky however...). I fixed the sky to attempt the setting sun effect, though my clouds really need some work (I'll be pulling reference pictures right now seeing as how we are in that time of year where the sun doesn't set till 2 a.m.).

    Mute: "I think you've got a good idea for a color scheme already, though I'd suggest implementing more blue for highlight and not using the same purple in the plane silhouette as in the mountains."

    I've taken your advice here and gone strait across my color wheel to the complimentary color (or there abouts...) of the plane and done some basic highlighting and lightening the exhaust with similar colors. More sketches to follow taking your thumbnail advice!
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    Thumb nail for a different environment and time of day.
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    Hey, nice to see you playing with your idea.

    I like the two planes idea, but I also liked the silhouette in the previous one. Maybe try pushing that second plane further back onto space. That way you've got the foreground plane to draw all the juicy details on and have a nice, sleek silhouette in the background.

    Also, try to avoid splitting your image through the middle with your horizon. Either give us more sky than mountain, more mountains and ground than sky, or angle the horizon so it's more dynamic and not splitting the image 50/50.

    Rock on!
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    I'll give your advice a shot with my next pic Mute! Thanks for the horizon info!
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    I took Mute's advice here and shrunk the mountains considerably and made the composition consist of more sky than anything else for the background... Also, lead fighter is closer (foreground) while number 2 is further out banking to 9 o'clock (mid-ground?). Mountains and sky produce a good background, color seems to be in pretty good harmony too... Or at least close to natural!
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    Semi-Final Product, tweaked, did I tweak enough?

    I'm happy with the color, the composition, and everything else, feel free to tear it up (constructively speaking of course!). I want to know if its good enough to post in the finished works sections, or just my scrapbook and here until it gets perfected!

    Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicles (UCAVs) flying over a mountain range.

    Some interesting links about UCAVs right now:
    http://dodsearch.afis.osd.mil/search...G.x=0&btnG.y=0
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/cgi-bi...&submit=Submit
    http://www.fas.org/search/index.html...ID%3A11&q=UCAV
    http://www.af.mil/news/airman/1203/flight3b.html

    Mainly, the stories pertaining to the X-45 A, B, and C models should prove very fascinating while providing you the basis of my inspiration for these air frames pictured.
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    Cool, so you've got a color scheme and a composition you like, great!

    Now all you need to do is refine and polish what you've got here till it look like this: Attachment 415374

    Then it will be fit for the finally finished section. In the mean time, keep it updated here in the Critique section and the lovely people here will help you get it to that level of polish.

    To start, now that you've got the general composition and colors down, start to sharpen up the shapes, like the mountains and the jets, make sure thier edges aren't blurry. Next try describing the details of the foreground plane more so the viewer can tell what part is what (cockpit camera? weapons? vents? insignia?.)

    Keep plugging away and we'll keep helping! Rock on!
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    v2.1 tweaking done

    Tweaks the last 24 hours:

    Sharpened outline of the aircraft
    Blended clouds a bit to make them wispy
    Sharpened mountains
    Added ground highlights like trees and river reflections

    Let me know any other specifics that would turn this into the masterpiece I'm after!
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