Instead of just busting Seth's chops...
 
View testimonialsView Artwork
Results 1 to 13 of 13
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Southwestern Pennsylvania
    Posts
    7,134
    Thanks
    8,227
    Thanked 5,582 Times in 1,786 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0

    Instead of just busting Seth's chops...

    ...let's show him and some others here the right way to approach a subject on a forum that consists of mostly Concept Artists, Illustrators and Designers (to a small degree).

    Seth', this would be a legitimate question that would probably get some decent and interesting feedback, and it falls sort of into what you're trying to do.

    Question:

    Are there specific areas of the fine arts (or illustration) that you feel influence/contribute to the field of concept art more than others? Is anything fair game? Or are some areas just plain unusable or counter-productive to the field? Any opinions/discussion?

    No position or belief, whether religious, political or social, is valid if one has to lie to support it.--Alj Mary

    Ironically, the concept of SIMPLICITY is most often misunderstood by simple-minded people. --Alj Mary
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote


  2. Hide this ad by registering as a member
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Pasadena, CA
    Posts
    3,475
    Thanks
    183
    Thanked 915 Times in 560 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Collage I can use. Found object assemblage art, not so much (unless I am doing non-representational). I'd say there is a boundary in there somewhere.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Philly PA
    Posts
    3,393
    Thanks
    108
    Thanked 1,476 Times in 469 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    painterly brush strokes seem to be a huge influence to concept artists, particularly in environments. in my opinion

    "Every little step considered one at a time is not terribly daunting" - Ethan Coen

    New books and process DVD available NOW!

    www.dvpalumbo.com

    Quickie blog (nudity)
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Southwestern Pennsylvania
    Posts
    7,134
    Thanks
    8,227
    Thanked 5,582 Times in 1,786 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Actually, I'm thinking found objects might be useful in some way. Not just as ref, either... Let me think about this for a couple of hours--it's one of my "areas."

    No position or belief, whether religious, political or social, is valid if one has to lie to support it.--Alj Mary

    Ironically, the concept of SIMPLICITY is most often misunderstood by simple-minded people. --Alj Mary
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  6. #5
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Hudson River valley, NY
    Posts
    16,211
    Thanks
    4,879
    Thanked 16,679 Times in 5,021 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by arttorney View Post
    Collage I can use. Found object assemblage art, not so much (unless I am doing non-representational).
    Most "kitbusted" vehicle and hardware design in the pre-digital days was nothing but cleverly disguised found-object assemblage.


    Tristan Elwell
    **Finished Work Thread **Process Thread **Edges Tutorial

    Crash Course for Artists, Illustrators, and Cartoonists, NYC, the 2013 Edition!

    "Work is more fun than fun."
    -John Cale

    "Art is supposed to punch you in the brain, and it's supposed to stay punched."
    -Marc Maron
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Philly PA
    Posts
    3,393
    Thanks
    108
    Thanked 1,476 Times in 469 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Most "kitbusted" vehicle and hardware design in the pre-digital days was nothing but cleverly disguised found-object assemblage.
    oh snap, look who's thinking outside the box!

    "Every little step considered one at a time is not terribly daunting" - Ethan Coen

    New books and process DVD available NOW!

    www.dvpalumbo.com

    Quickie blog (nudity)
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to DavePalumbo For This Useful Post:


  9. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Southwestern Pennsylvania
    Posts
    7,134
    Thanks
    8,227
    Thanked 5,582 Times in 1,786 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    I think...DAMN...gimme a second. I'm getting a phaser-speed message from Scotty on my salt shaker...

    No position or belief, whether religious, political or social, is valid if one has to lie to support it.--Alj Mary

    Ironically, the concept of SIMPLICITY is most often misunderstood by simple-minded people. --Alj Mary
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  10. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    3,432
    Thanks
    643
    Thanked 1,484 Times in 719 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Most "kitbusted" vehicle and hardware design in the pre-digital days was nothing but cleverly disguised found-object assemblage.
    Most of "Star Wars" and "Battlestar Galactica" owes a lot to Airfix model kits.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  11. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    that place between Sleep and Awake
    Posts
    180
    Thanks
    74
    Thanked 62 Times in 46 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    I always liked the way that the writers of James Bond movies would find a lot of there concepts by skimming through a Popular Mechanics Magazine and trying to play off of what they find.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  12. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    New Haven, CT
    Posts
    2,987
    Thanks
    295
    Thanked 290 Times in 173 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Well, after seeing Dan Dos Santos's Demo I'm pretty surprised how much 'Frankensteining' is actually put forth. He was working on a painting during the class for a book cover I believe, and every element of the character he created he used reference photos, basically changing everything from the eyes, lips, helmet, ornaments.. the works.. to create his final look for his painting. He must have had at least 50 layers in that photoshop file, and the final painting was brilliant!

    maybe not 'concept art' but holy cow, taking bits and pieces from the world is a huge factor for some pieces.

    My work: [link]
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  13. #11
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Pasadena, CA
    Posts
    3,475
    Thanks
    183
    Thanked 915 Times in 560 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Now we got a conversation.

    I admit I was going to try the Sacred Grove of the Machinae with dowel rods and some effed up CDs, but I didn't have time.

    I'm pretty proud of my cheese, lard, and Reese's cup rendition of Morgan La Fey's castle, though.

    You guys are right. I'm going to have to look somewhere else for irrelevancy. (wonder where it will be?)

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  14. #12
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Southwestern Pennsylvania
    Posts
    7,134
    Thanks
    8,227
    Thanked 5,582 Times in 1,786 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Ever get one of those straws that have that thin paper around them, and you kind of push it down the straw and it wrinkles up? I did this once with a couple of wrapped layers of thin rice paper, some newsprint, or some aluminum foil to different degrees of "squishiness" around a length of 3" and 6" plastic pipe.

    If you open it out horizontally without opening the squishiness too much, you get a great pattern of random linear strata that could pass for folded skin or actual rocky strata, or even weathered stone if you open it up a bit. Light it from different angles and photo it, and you have a great set of patterns to use in PS when you're doing environmental pieces or even "lizard" skin where it really folds up.

    I've also opened the aluminum version up to various degrees and carefully supported the underside with styro peanuts and tissues and poured plaster into it as if it were a mold. When it sets up, you get some amazing chunks of linear strata or hard-edged stoney patterns for 3D pieces.

    No position or belief, whether religious, political or social, is valid if one has to lie to support it.--Alj Mary

    Ironically, the concept of SIMPLICITY is most often misunderstood by simple-minded people. --Alj Mary
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

  15. #13
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    New Haven, CT
    Posts
    2,083
    Thanks
    323
    Thanked 970 Times in 520 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    I'm not sure there's much in the realm of art that wouldn't have some application to concept artists and illustrators. Anything that sparks an idea becomes valuable. It could be Ousider art or Naïve art, both of which are pretty far from most commercial art in my opinion, but if it gives you a new way to look at things it's going to be useful.

    About the ONLY thing that I would call counter productive is limiting yourself to just one art approach, or only viewing one style of art. If you want to be a concept artist, the LAST thing you want to do is just flood yourself with only concept art! People who isolate themselves to only learning from one source (many beginner comicbooks artists or anime artists as good examples) or dooming themselves to failure.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote

Members who have read this thread: 0

There are no members to list at the moment.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • 424,149 Artists
  • 3,599,276 Artist Posts
  • 32,941 Sketchbooks
  • 54 New Art Jobs
Art Workshop Discount Inside
Register

Developed Actively by vBSocial.com
The Art Department
SpringOfSea's Sketchbook