first, a preface: i was born in Bangladesh. but grew up in America.
and now: as a red-blooded American let me say, "Fuck Communism and Socialism and Carl Marx and all his brethren!" it's in quotes since i actually had to shout that outloud.
The State does not love you. The State does not sacrifice for you while it asks you to sacrifice for it, the community, the greater good, etc.
The basic premise behind the Abrahamic Religions (i will only speak of those as they are my basis of knowledge) is that God loves Man despite Man's inability to properly love God. God does not ask that you sacrifice. He asks worship and love but he asks that of Man in free will. Not by force, which Communism does.
You can dress Communism up as a religion all you want but it ain't. You can paint that pill red and call it Tylenol but it's still cyanide.
The Abrahamic Faiths value the individual life. Moses freed slaves. Communism makes slaves of people in the worst way, it shackles your mind. You said it yourself, no free expression, controlled beliefs, forced blind worship of Communist symbols and ideals.
As an American at least I am free to believe in whatever I want to believe in. Any religion I choose to follow. And I can gain advancement in my profession regardless of my political party affiliation, religious bias or otherwise.
And you tell me Communism is the morning after Judgement Day?
BTW, I said read Brave New World because many believe Huxley was hinting at the futility of Man's effort to create Utopia on Earth. Communism and Socialism are just that, attempts at creating Utopia on Earth. Now do you get my point Craig D?
And while you're at it, read Animal Farm. There's a blatant anti-Communist story for you. "All animals are created equal. But some animals are more equal than others." Yeah, Communism works. Sure.
What I love about Communists and Socialists is that it's always a promise that soon we will achieve Heaven on Earth. Soon.
You can't find one example of a Socialist or Communist society in history that works -exactly- as those two philosophies describe themselves.
American Capitalism works. That is why for such a young country we have had more progress than countries far older than us. And we certainly enjoy more freedom than any Socialist or Communist nation.
I don't have to pay for ice cubes. I was asked to pay for ice water in Europe. No, the water was free, but the ice...
And I don't have to wait six months for kidney surgery like my relative in Canada. I can get that done frickin' ASAP!
Alright, this thread probably needs to stop because we have lost our original intent. This has become about society and political structures. As an American I'm pretty damned proud of our Capitalism because it works and affords our people more freedom than any other society in history has afforded its people.
What's truly sad is Americans do not realize how lucky we are. I am an immigrant and so I get it. But most Americans don't even know. They complain about 40 Million Americans who have no health care but don't realize 260 Million DO! Hell, our poor still drive cars! And you can walk up to a store and get a job without having to join a political party or denounce your religion.
Don't talk to me about the idealism of Communism. Bangladesh is quite Socialist so I do know a little something of those two ideals. Heck, even Carl Marx said Socialism was the final step in a society's progress towards the ideal of Communism.
Well, fuck them both and the mental slaves they make of human beings. You're stuck in the fucking Matrix and thinking you're breathing real air if you swallow -that- pill. Blah.
Give me fucking liberty or fucking death.