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    Quote Originally Posted by TASmith View Post
    "she never said one thing negative against Communism."

    It sounded pretty negative to me.
    Well, it read like she was defending the ideals of Communism. If I am wrong and she was not supporting Communism then I am mistaken and sincerely apologize.

    I get a little heated on matters of patriotism sometimes. It's a tough time to be an American. I just read a story about how a singer was asked to sing the Star Spangled Banner at a political gathering in Denver, CO and she changed the lyrics to a gospel hymn that many call the "Black National Anthem."

    That really bothered me. Pride of your people is one thing. But the National Anthem is the National Anthem and should be respected.

    SVE, sorry if I misunderstood your post. It seems everyone else thinks you were not defending Communism so I must be in the wrong here. Hope I didn't irritate you too badly with my "Fuck Communism" rant! lol.

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    Why is it important if I defended it or was against it? We were discussing if Communism resembles religion. Any religion has certain common features, positive or negative, it is subjective for everyone.
    Communism is Utopia IMO, and morning after Judgment day is Utopia IMO.
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    Kauser...

    What some self-centered moronic twit does at a ball game has no part of this thread. You wanna rant about it, do so, in an appropriate place. DON'T make it one more proof that everybody here that is trying to discuss something with you is all part of a seditious fuckin' conspiracy that's out to prove you're a traitor of some kind. You damn well owed Sve (and a few other people) an apology, and you posted one...a real one, so I give you points for that.

    Now, get off your fuckin' self-centered high horse and actually try to listen to people instead of assuming you know what they said without actually reading AND understanding what they wrote. It gets boring and a bit childish real fast.

    You and I in a locked room would probably kill each other. Reason? Judging by your rants, I'm fairly certain you'd consider me a traitor, seditious, unpatriotic, and anti-US. If that was your honest opinion, you'd be entitled to it without any comment from me, but as I start to interpret your attitude from your writings, and your bull-headed insistence on coming out on top, I'm fairly certain you'd be saying it with a self-righteous sneer on your face, and that would really piss me off.

    I have an absolute hatred of fascists and dogmatic religious freaks with closed minds. Your discussions comes across as fascist rhetoric to me, not a defense of your patriotism. Chill out. Think twice before you post something, and maybe try to see at least SOME good in SOME opinions that are unlike yours and may be just as valid as yours.

    Sorry for the rant in public, but I think I've dropped enough hints, and now I've lost my patience. My sincere apologies for that.

    You have the ability to state things concisely and clearly to support your opinions. You do it in a less combative way, and you'll be a real joy to "argue" with. Treat your discussion mates as the enemy and always wrong, and you'll just piss everybody off. It's happened before here. I would not like to see it happen again. Unnerstand?

    I'm making these comments to you because it's possible I'll get banned for it. It could hurt someone else who really needs this forum if they said them. I don't care. I'm here because I like it. I just don't like to see people I've come to see as friends get pushed around verbally.

    Can we end this and be at least civil to each other, if not friends?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kauser.ali View Post
    Well, it read like she was defending the ideals of Communism. If I am wrong and she was not supporting Communism then I am mistaken and sincerely apologize.
    She wasn't, she was explaining it from an in depth perspective that most of us will (thankfully) never have.

    You were wrong and spectacularly so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilaekae View Post
    Kauser...

    What some self-centered moronic twit does at a ball game has no part of this thread. You wanna rant about it, do so, in an appropriate place. DON'T make it one more proof that everybody here that is trying to discuss something with you is all part of a seditious fuckin' conspiracy that's out to prove you're a traitor of some kind. You damn well owed Sve (and a few other people) an apology, and you posted one...a real one, so I give you points for that.

    Now, get off your fuckin' self-centered high horse and actually try to listen to people instead of assuming you know what they said without actually reading AND understanding what they wrote. It gets boring and a bit childish real fast.

    You and I in a locked room would probably kill each other. Reason? Judging by your rants, I'm fairly certain you'd consider me a traitor, seditious, unpatriotic, and anti-US. If that was your honest opinion, you'd be entitled to it without any comment from me, but as I start to interpret your attitude from your writings, and your bull-headed insistence on coming out on top, I'm fairly certain you'd be saying it with a self-righteous sneer on your face, and that would really piss me off.

    I have an absolute hatred of fascists and dogmatic religious freaks with closed minds. Your discussions comes across as fascist rhetoric to me, not a defense of your patriotism. Chill out. Think twice before you post something, and maybe try to see at least SOME good in SOME opinions that are unlike yours and may be just as valid as yours.

    Sorry for the rant in public, but I think I've dropped enough hints, and now I've lost my patience. My sincere apologies for that.

    You have the ability to state things concisely and clearly to support your opinions. You do it in a less combative way, and you'll be a real joy to "argue" with. Treat your discussion mates as the enemy and always wrong, and you'll just piss everybody off. It's happened before here. I would not like to see it happen again. Unnerstand?

    I'm making these comments to you because it's possible I'll get banned for it. It could hurt someone else who really needs this forum if they said them. I don't care. I'm here because I like it. I just don't like to see people I've come to see as friends get pushed around verbally.

    Can we end this and be at least civil to each other, if not friends?

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    Thank you, Illy, for calling me a friend and trying to protect me, it is very, really kind of you and I appreciate it enormously... And you, Flake,... thank you for trying to clear misunderstanding... I'm ready to be solely responsible for my actions and words though.

    I like to observe. It is all lessons of human nature.
    Thank you again... but I wasn't offended. I didn't talk to my opponent only, I talked maybe to you and some other people.

    And kauser.ali... about patriotism.
    Real patriots who love their country, they love it for what it is, they know its ugly sides as well as its good ones. They don't close their eyes on its deficiencies and love some ideal, phony country.
    If their country soul is sick from its own domestic diseases... they are aware of it and suffer from them because they love their country and want to see it healthy. Hiding shortcomings increases the sickness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kauser.ali View Post
    In order for us to all get along and lead perfect pacifistic lives, we would need to shed our human compulsion towards desire. Desire leads to greed and want of things and jealousy/envy over that which we have not attained.

    So, get rid of human emotion and we can be rid of desire and thus all lead perfect pacifistic lives. We'd be the philosophical equivalent to angels. No emotion. No desire.
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    "No party or political philosophy has a monopoly on patriotism." If you want to be a patriot, do it this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrokid View Post
    I have to say I'm for the matter of murder for rape. If someone raped me I'd kill them(i have the meanest bad looks on earth).

    I carry a pencil with me most times, super strength 1975 lead, made of lead-the posinous kind(doesnt kill, it makes them pass out)|live by the pencil kill by the pencil.
    he might carry a pencil but not a super strength one also he would never hurt anyone.

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    I'm for the death penalty. A forced sexual assault against an unwilling victim is always wrong and there's no sympathy possible when there is undeniable proof.

    We need to stop making criminals into heroes or victims in situations when they're clearly in control of their own actions.

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    What happened here?

    wow. this thread ran away like a freight train!

    i'm glad everyone participated. but i'm saddened by how heated it got. i definately had a role in that.

    i do think i can be a bit bull-headed at times with my opinions. need to work on that...

    far as sve's comments on communism being similar to religion, i think we just misunderstood each other. systematically communism is indeed similar to religion. imo, the difference lies in the purpose. i view religion's purpose as that of transcendance, of elevating people out of the muck of this world into another.

    i can see how communism tries to do the same. so, i see your point sve. but i have to say i do not like the results. i have not seen one communist nation in this world's history accomplish that goal. i do not see communism as uplifting simply by the sheer results of the nations that have practiced it and continue to do so.

    i see communism as the ultimate form of control.

    i'll admit, many religions can take on that same level of control. and that is why i am glad we have seperation of church and state here in the u.s.

    far as patriotism goes, yeah, we've all got problems as nations. i'm not denying america's negative. our biggest negative is lack of patriotism. our people do not appreciate being americans and some are even ashamed of it.

    i don't think you could say "god damn china" in their home turf and get away with it. i don't think japan would tolerate its people burning their flag.

    but that sort of thing is tolerated here in the states. we do it for the sake of acceptance of all. but where is the line?

    the supreme court interferes with everything. that's what started this thread.
    they decreed it is permissable for people to burn the u.s. flag as a form of free expression. and now they've decreed states who vote in the majority for a convicted child rapist to die cannot do so.

    i'm seeing this nation creep ever closer towards a socialist mentality and that sickens me. capitalism is an incredible ideal. it truly works. you allow people, without government interference, to compete with one another and you get progress. everytime in our past when the government has interfered with our people's ambition the government hindered progress.

    the space race was won by the soviets due to the pentagon's delay in properly funding werner von braun. sputnik only became the first probe into outer space due to the u.s. federal government's lack of urgency on the matter. werner von braun saw it. he knew it could be done and understood what it would mean for the nation to be first in space.

    it's nice that we were able to surpass that misstep by landing on the moon. but ever since then we have had terrible delay in achieving the next logical step, mars.

    the space race is just an example. government interference in anything slows down progress because it is too much red tape, too many hands in the cookie jar. the feds don't need to control business, don't need to tell local courts how they may sentence child rapists and certainly don't need to tell us how we may receive healthcare.

    this supreme court decision is just one more example of "big brother" screwing everything up for the hard working people of this nation. and i frankly do see us as the modern day greece. the world's hope for a democratic ideal.

    but it's all being tarnished by the bufoons in washington. we are the only nation in the history of the world that established its power not through expanding our borders but through expanding our influence globally.

    that is a remarkable achievement. and our own people are blind to it and not proud. that is the negative in america. our people's lack of pride and our government's constant interference with the status quo.
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