Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 75
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Fallingwater
    Posts
    5,081
    Thanks
    1,529
    Thanked 5,191 Times in 1,728 Posts

    Masterful Drapery Studies (Post them here!)

    How about a thread for really great drapery studies. This is something all artists struggle with and having a bunch of examples in one spot might be helpful...


    Credits: Leonardo Da Vinci, (Unknown Rhodian Sculptor), Dean Cornwell, Boucher, Brangwyn, Harold Speed.
    Last edited by kev ferrara; June 25th, 2008 at 05:08 PM.
    At least Icarus tried!


    My Process: Dead Rider Graphic Novel (Dark Horse Comics) plus oil paintings, pencils and other goodies:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=101106

    My "Smilechild" Music. Plus a medley of Commercial Music Cues and a Folksy Jingle!:
    http://www.myspace.com/kevferrara


  2. Hide this ad by registering as a member
  3. The Following 26 Users Say Thank You to kev ferrara For This Useful Post:

    + Show/Hide list of the thanked


  4. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Near Brussels
    Posts
    1,289
    Thanks
    78
    Thanked 154 Times in 100 Posts

    Alphonse Mucha

    That Greek sculpture in the Louvre in absolutely breathtaking !
    Mucha is worth mentioning I think :

    Attachment 398815 Attachment 398824
    www.tomvandewouwer.com

    "There is no such thing as 'accurate drawing'. There is beautiful
    drawing, and ugly, and nothing else." JAD Ingres, Ecrits sur l'art
    (1780-1865)"

  5. The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to Art_Addict For This Useful Post:

    + Show/Hide list of the thanked


  6. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    2,105
    Thanks
    113
    Thanked 515 Times in 187 Posts
    good one Kev, here are a few I have lying around.

    Mucha, (beat me to it Tom!) Michelangelo and Bernini. Its marble and its beyond me...
    [url=http://galleryonefone.blogspot.com[/url] This would be my gallery in Sweden

    This would be my Pleine Air blog

  7. The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to timpaatkins For This Useful Post:


  8. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Fallingwater
    Posts
    5,081
    Thanks
    1,529
    Thanked 5,191 Times in 1,728 Posts
    More good stuff (not all "studies", but all worth studying.)
    At least Icarus tried!


    My Process: Dead Rider Graphic Novel (Dark Horse Comics) plus oil paintings, pencils and other goodies:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=101106

    My "Smilechild" Music. Plus a medley of Commercial Music Cues and a Folksy Jingle!:
    http://www.myspace.com/kevferrara

  9. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to kev ferrara For This Useful Post:


  10. #5
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Fallingwater
    Posts
    5,081
    Thanks
    1,529
    Thanked 5,191 Times in 1,728 Posts
    Here's some Dan Adel...
    Last edited by kev ferrara; June 25th, 2008 at 05:36 PM.
    At least Icarus tried!


    My Process: Dead Rider Graphic Novel (Dark Horse Comics) plus oil paintings, pencils and other goodies:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=101106

    My "Smilechild" Music. Plus a medley of Commercial Music Cues and a Folksy Jingle!:
    http://www.myspace.com/kevferrara

  11. The Following 24 Users Say Thank You to kev ferrara For This Useful Post:

    + Show/Hide list of the thanked


  12. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    2,105
    Thanks
    113
    Thanked 515 Times in 187 Posts
    Ohh baby! How could I forget Franz Hals, The way he just seems to knock it off is mindboggling! Ingres of course.
    [url=http://galleryonefone.blogspot.com[/url] This would be my gallery in Sweden

    This would be my Pleine Air blog

  13. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to timpaatkins For This Useful Post:


  14. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    1,378
    Thanks
    669
    Thanked 538 Times in 296 Posts
    Cool stuff. Especially the choice of the Nike of Samothrace, that's one of my favorite Hellenistic sculptures.

    As far as more modern work goes, John Currin offers some great drapery work in some of his paintings. The one with the transparent drapery in particular is interesting.
    -My work can be found at my local directory thread.

  15. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Anid Maro For This Useful Post:


  16. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Near Brussels
    Posts
    1,289
    Thanks
    78
    Thanked 154 Times in 100 Posts
    Michael Grimaldi and Jacob Collins

    Attachment 398868 Attachment 398869
    www.tomvandewouwer.com

    "There is no such thing as 'accurate drawing'. There is beautiful
    drawing, and ugly, and nothing else." JAD Ingres, Ecrits sur l'art
    (1780-1865)"

  17. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Art_Addict For This Useful Post:


  18. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    2,028
    Thanks
    1,349
    Thanked 1,950 Times in 776 Posts
    Michaelangelo

    Attachment 398860

    Michaelangelo

    Attachment 398861

    Degas

    Attachment 398862

    Ingres

    Attachment 398864

    Tamara De Lempicka

    Attachment 398865

    Tamara De Lempicka

    Attachment 398867

    Leyendecker

    Attachment 398870

    Leyendecker

    Attachment 398872

    Leyendecker

    Attachment 398873

    Whistler

    Attachment 398880

    Uglow

    Attachment 398881
    From Gegarin's point of view
    http://www.chrisbennettartist.co.uk/

  19. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Chris Bennett For This Useful Post:


  20. #10
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    2,028
    Thanks
    1,349
    Thanked 1,950 Times in 776 Posts
    Almost forgot.....

    John Jude Palancar

    Attachment 398908
    From Gegarin's point of view
    http://www.chrisbennettartist.co.uk/

  21. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Chris Bennett For This Useful Post:


  22. #11
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Fallingwater
    Posts
    5,081
    Thanks
    1,529
    Thanked 5,191 Times in 1,728 Posts
    Dean Cornwell on Drapery: Drapery reveals form.

    Cornwell was particularly concerned with the importance of drapery in depicting the human figure and devoted an entire evening's session to it as part of his annual lecture series at the Art Students League. Clothing of either men or women was supposed to reveal the figure beneath it and folds of the material were useful in defining the action. He also stressed the difference between folds and wrinkles. As defined by Cornwell, a fold was created by the cut and weight of the material in response to the position of the figure beneath. A wrinkle was an accidental crease in the material having no relationship to the action or underlying figure and should be eliminated as an extraneous and confusing detail. Although folds are predictable, their variety is also infinite and cornwell always perferred to get his facts from the posed model rather than inventing them. For instance, he did a lot of costume pictures and when men's tights were called for, he would pose his model's in long johns. The key to the problem was in selection, making use of a pattern of folds that would enhance the desired action. This might require the model's repeated bending of a knee or an arm until the right fold emerged. Sometimes nature needed an assist from strategically placed clothespins. (Step by Step graphics, vol 3. no. 3)

    Here's the Famous Artist course material (thanks to Mark Kennedy):
    At least Icarus tried!


    My Process: Dead Rider Graphic Novel (Dark Horse Comics) plus oil paintings, pencils and other goodies:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=101106

    My "Smilechild" Music. Plus a medley of Commercial Music Cues and a Folksy Jingle!:
    http://www.myspace.com/kevferrara

  23. The Following 41 Users Say Thank You to kev ferrara For This Useful Post:

    + Show/Hide list of the thanked


  24. #12
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    125
    Thanks
    64
    Thanked 71 Times in 33 Posts
    Tom Gregg

  25. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to VeSeljak For This Useful Post:


  26. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    125
    Thanks
    64
    Thanked 71 Times in 33 Posts
    zhi lin

  27. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to VeSeljak For This Useful Post:


  28. #14
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    San Francisco
    Posts
    885
    Thanks
    957
    Thanked 492 Times in 226 Posts
    Here are some finished folds that I like.
    In no particular order....

  29. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Jasonwclark For This Useful Post:


  30. #15
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    570
    Thanks
    382
    Thanked 175 Times in 112 Posts
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...1&d=1214428358

    michelangelo did this when he was 24 years old haha!
    insane in the brain man

  31. #16
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    2,660
    Thanks
    51
    Thanked 488 Times in 182 Posts
    My favorite Dan Adel piece:
    Lake Hurwitz
    .HUMILITY.INSANITY.LOVE.

    .PORTFOLIO.

  32. #17
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Fallingwater
    Posts
    5,081
    Thanks
    1,529
    Thanked 5,191 Times in 1,728 Posts
    More well-observed folds, drapery, and clothing...

    Credits: Steve Huston, (Saul Tepper or Mead Schaeffer), Ingres, Brangwyn, Leyendecker (2), Wrightson, Velasquez
    Last edited by kev ferrara; June 27th, 2008 at 08:46 PM.
    At least Icarus tried!


    My Process: Dead Rider Graphic Novel (Dark Horse Comics) plus oil paintings, pencils and other goodies:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=101106

    My "Smilechild" Music. Plus a medley of Commercial Music Cues and a Folksy Jingle!:
    http://www.myspace.com/kevferrara

  33. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to kev ferrara For This Useful Post:


  34. #18
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Fallingwater
    Posts
    5,081
    Thanks
    1,529
    Thanked 5,191 Times in 1,728 Posts
    more, Leyendecker and Hele(?)
    At least Icarus tried!


    My Process: Dead Rider Graphic Novel (Dark Horse Comics) plus oil paintings, pencils and other goodies:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=101106

    My "Smilechild" Music. Plus a medley of Commercial Music Cues and a Folksy Jingle!:
    http://www.myspace.com/kevferrara

  35. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to kev ferrara For This Useful Post:


  36. #19
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Fallingwater
    Posts
    5,081
    Thanks
    1,529
    Thanked 5,191 Times in 1,728 Posts
    more drapes, folds, and togas...

    Credits: Brangwyn, Leyendecker, Cornwell, Leon Gordon, Norman Rockwell, Anders Zorn, Harvey Dunn, Fragonard, Frazetta
    Last edited by kev ferrara; June 27th, 2008 at 08:48 PM.
    At least Icarus tried!


    My Process: Dead Rider Graphic Novel (Dark Horse Comics) plus oil paintings, pencils and other goodies:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=101106

    My "Smilechild" Music. Plus a medley of Commercial Music Cues and a Folksy Jingle!:
    http://www.myspace.com/kevferrara

  37. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to kev ferrara For This Useful Post:


  38. #20
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    1,378
    Thanks
    669
    Thanked 538 Times in 296 Posts
    I was stumbling around in the Tutorials section and fittingly enough I found this, an excellent tutorial about drapery, by Fredflickstone (A.K.A. Ron Lemen).
    -My work can be found at my local directory thread.

  39. The Following User Says Thank You to Anid Maro For This Useful Post:


  40. #21
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    2,028
    Thanks
    1,349
    Thanked 1,950 Times in 776 Posts
    Boy oh boy! that Leyendecker with the two cows either side of the girl in yellow is bloody good!
    From Gegarin's point of view
    http://www.chrisbennettartist.co.uk/

  41. #22
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Fallingwater
    Posts
    5,081
    Thanks
    1,529
    Thanked 5,191 Times in 1,728 Posts
    Sargent's Frieze of the Prophets...
    At least Icarus tried!


    My Process: Dead Rider Graphic Novel (Dark Horse Comics) plus oil paintings, pencils and other goodies:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=101106

    My "Smilechild" Music. Plus a medley of Commercial Music Cues and a Folksy Jingle!:
    http://www.myspace.com/kevferrara

  42. The Following User Says Thank You to kev ferrara For This Useful Post:


  43. #23
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    California
    Posts
    288
    Thanks
    155
    Thanked 126 Times in 37 Posts
    Great thread!

  44. The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Felicia For This Useful Post:


  45. #24
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    1,378
    Thanks
    669
    Thanked 538 Times in 296 Posts
    Here are some good references I found sitting on my hard drive from Daniel Rosetti.

    I'd asked Kev at one point why he'd started this thread in the Lounge rather than in Fine Arts & Discovery or Art Discussion... and he simply replied that he did it for the traffic. Well that's worked out great, there's tons of great info and references being shared here... but might I now request that this get stickied? I'm afraid the heavy traffic might at some point drive it off the page and it would be a shame to lose this thread.
    -My work can be found at my local directory thread.

  46. The Following User Says Thank You to Anid Maro For This Useful Post:


  47. #25
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    2,033
    Thanks
    895
    Thanked 850 Times in 290 Posts
    that rosetti guy seems to only paint one face and expression... it's almost creepy

  48. #26
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    San Francisco
    Posts
    711
    Thanks
    105
    Thanked 408 Times in 136 Posts
    lounge thread of the year nominee...

    thanks kev!
    NYSA grand national champion yogurt slinger - 1874-2061

    ---------------
    My Sketch Book

    Portfolio

    Fundamentals of Form - Educational Download

  49. #27
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    1,378
    Thanks
    669
    Thanked 538 Times in 296 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by nonie View Post
    that rosetti guy seems to only paint one face and expression... it's almost creepy
    Yeah... he's definitely got a thing for red heads with pouty lips, round eyes, a thin nose, and a somewhat manly neck...

    I think I heard somewhere that there was some woman he was madly in love with but couldn't have... spurned love and all that jazz so he kept painting her. Dunno if that's true or a tall tale though.

    Edit: Hearsay 0, Reading 1. Re: Roesetti's model, read Flake and Elwell below.
    Last edited by Anid Maro; June 26th, 2008 at 10:20 PM.
    -My work can be found at my local directory thread.

  50. #28
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    3,430
    Thanks
    643
    Thanked 1,484 Times in 719 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by nonie View Post
    that rosetti guy seems to only paint one face and expression... it's almost creepy
    That's the same model (Jane Burden/Morris, ex wife of William Morris) in all of those pictures.

    From the photos I've seen that was her default expression.

  51. #29
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Hudson River valley, NY
    Posts
    16,202
    Thanks
    4,876
    Thanked 16,683 Times in 5,021 Posts
    Those Rossetti paintings are all portraits of Jane Morris. His model for earlier works was Elizabeth Siddal. There's an extensive literature on the pre-raphs and their muses.

    Tristan Elwell
    **Finished Work Thread **Process Thread **Edges Tutorial

    "Work is more fun than fun."
    -John Cale

    "Art is supposed to punch you in the brain, and it's supposed to stay punched."
    -Marc Maron

  52. #30
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    2,033
    Thanks
    895
    Thanked 850 Times in 290 Posts
    this thread IS awesome btw. I still know only very little about art history/contemporary fine artists so some of these artists are new to me

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. The Masterful Hand Thread
    By Andrew Sonea in forum Art Discussions
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: August 21st, 2012, 12:55 AM
  2. Drapery Process: "Drapery" Two-Part Drapery Demonstration
    By fredflickstone in forum ART TUTORIALS, ART TIPS & ART TRICKS - ARCHIVE
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: October 25th, 2009, 08:26 PM
  3. The Most Masterful Master
    By DeeLock in forum Art Discussions
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: November 15th, 2008, 12:26 AM
  4. Spartan Training Camp #4 - 50 Gestures + 2 drapery studies
    By Cwn Annwn in forum Art Community Activities
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: July 23rd, 2007, 04:27 AM
  5. Art: Drapery Process: "Drapery" Two-Part Drapery Demonstration
    By fredflickstone in forum Fine Art
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: January 9th, 2004, 10:18 PM

Members who have read this thread: 5

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Developed Actively by the makers of the Best Amazon Podcast