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    Masterful Drapery Studies (Post them here!)

    How about a thread for really great drapery studies. This is something all artists struggle with and having a bunch of examples in one spot might be helpful...


    Credits: Leonardo Da Vinci, (Unknown Rhodian Sculptor), Dean Cornwell, Boucher, Brangwyn, Harold Speed.

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    Alphonse Mucha

    That Greek sculpture in the Louvre in absolutely breathtaking !
    Mucha is worth mentioning I think :

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    good one Kev, here are a few I have lying around.

    Mucha, (beat me to it Tom!) Michelangelo and Bernini. Its marble and its beyond me...

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    More good stuff (not all "studies", but all worth studying.)

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    Here's some Dan Adel...

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    Ohh baby! How could I forget Franz Hals, The way he just seems to knock it off is mindboggling! Ingres of course.

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    Cool stuff. Especially the choice of the Nike of Samothrace, that's one of my favorite Hellenistic sculptures.

    As far as more modern work goes, John Currin offers some great drapery work in some of his paintings. The one with the transparent drapery in particular is interesting.

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    Dean Cornwell on Drapery: Drapery reveals form.

    Cornwell was particularly concerned with the importance of drapery in depicting the human figure and devoted an entire evening's session to it as part of his annual lecture series at the Art Students League. Clothing of either men or women was supposed to reveal the figure beneath it and folds of the material were useful in defining the action. He also stressed the difference between folds and wrinkles. As defined by Cornwell, a fold was created by the cut and weight of the material in response to the position of the figure beneath. A wrinkle was an accidental crease in the material having no relationship to the action or underlying figure and should be eliminated as an extraneous and confusing detail. Although folds are predictable, their variety is also infinite and cornwell always perferred to get his facts from the posed model rather than inventing them. For instance, he did a lot of costume pictures and when men's tights were called for, he would pose his model's in long johns. The key to the problem was in selection, making use of a pattern of folds that would enhance the desired action. This might require the model's repeated bending of a knee or an arm until the right fold emerged. Sometimes nature needed an assist from strategically placed clothespins. (Step by Step graphics, vol 3. no. 3)

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    Here are some finished folds that I like.
    In no particular order....

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    michelangelo did this when he was 24 years old haha!
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    More well-observed folds, drapery, and clothing...

    Credits: Steve Huston, (Saul Tepper or Mead Schaeffer), Ingres, Brangwyn, Leyendecker (2), Wrightson, Velasquez

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    more, Leyendecker and Hele(?)

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    more drapes, folds, and togas...

    Credits: Brangwyn, Leyendecker, Cornwell, Leon Gordon, Norman Rockwell, Anders Zorn, Harvey Dunn, Fragonard, Frazetta

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    I was stumbling around in the Tutorials section and fittingly enough I found this, an excellent tutorial about drapery, by Fredflickstone (A.K.A. Ron Lemen).

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    Boy oh boy! that Leyendecker with the two cows either side of the girl in yellow is bloody good!

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    Sargent's Frieze of the Prophets...

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    Here are some good references I found sitting on my hard drive from Daniel Rosetti.

    I'd asked Kev at one point why he'd started this thread in the Lounge rather than in Fine Arts & Discovery or Art Discussion... and he simply replied that he did it for the traffic. Well that's worked out great, there's tons of great info and references being shared here... but might I now request that this get stickied? I'm afraid the heavy traffic might at some point drive it off the page and it would be a shame to lose this thread.

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    that rosetti guy seems to only paint one face and expression... it's almost creepy

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    lounge thread of the year nominee...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonie View Post
    that rosetti guy seems to only paint one face and expression... it's almost creepy
    Yeah... he's definitely got a thing for red heads with pouty lips, round eyes, a thin nose, and a somewhat manly neck...

    I think I heard somewhere that there was some woman he was madly in love with but couldn't have... spurned love and all that jazz so he kept painting her. Dunno if that's true or a tall tale though.

    Edit: Hearsay 0, Reading 1. Re: Roesetti's model, read Flake and Elwell below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonie View Post
    that rosetti guy seems to only paint one face and expression... it's almost creepy
    That's the same model (Jane Burden/Morris, ex wife of William Morris) in all of those pictures.

    From the photos I've seen that was her default expression.

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    Those Rossetti paintings are all portraits of Jane Morris. His model for earlier works was Elizabeth Siddal. There's an extensive literature on the pre-raphs and their muses.


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    this thread IS awesome btw. I still know only very little about art history/contemporary fine artists so some of these artists are new to me

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