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    Just posting a friendly booster! I know you're working your ass off to get your portfolio ready, so in case you check this, just wanted to say that I envy your work ethic and hope that all is going well. Don't forget to get the proper sleep .

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    So you are italian and you spent the last years studying something you didn't really love? It's like I'm your evil twin or something I'm 22, graduating in about 2 months in Economics (con qualche mese di ritardo) and I'm going to attend the Angel Academy in Florence...It's a pretty similar story :| !
    Regarding your works, I'm amazed by your motivation and dedication, It's kinda intimidating to be honest...you display both talent and discipline I'm pretty sure you'll probably succeed, if you keep focusing so hard!
    I'd love to hear from you, since you are already living in the USA, we are both interested in the atelier training and well...we speak italian (from what I gather).
    Hope not to bother you, keep it up!

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    GaussianRaider ...e sembra che sia pure carina. Deve per forza avere qualche difetto nascosto, tipo che una psicopatica assassina o le piacciono le Winx.

    Translation: Mock, I agree with GaussianRaider, your dedication and resolution are admirable. And it looks like you're getting better day after day. Keep up!

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    Keep at it gal! hope you get some good stuff done for the workshop....wish I could go!....stupid 3rd world currency

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    Whooo, how time flies! Thanks guys for sticking with me despite my lack of updates. I'm trying to get 80 hours in on a complex cast drawing before the workshop, so almost all of my time has been going to that, which I don't want to scan and post until it's finished. Which will probably be about a week or two before the workshop.

    The new schedule is working out great. I get a lot of time to study each subject, but maintain enough diversity to keep myself moving forward. I feel like I'm finally making progress, albeit not as quickly as I would like.

    Some other stuff:

    Anatomy and drapery studies, Titania sketch that never saw the light of day, a study in texturing armor, first of many 20 minute photo environment speedpaints from a really great book I picked up from Borders, an icy landscape speedpaint (~1.5 hr) inspired by all of the insane Blizzard art form Wrath of the Lich King, and a WIP for my portfolio. You should recognize the characters from the sketch a page or so back. =)

    I'll also come back and respond to individual comments tonight. I have to go play racquetball in a few minutes. Whoooo physical activity.

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    Really wonderful studies, and beautiful colours in the paints.


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    Those last digitals poses were quite flat, but usually your sketches aren't
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    Hair could have seen some more development but I like your rendition of Titania.

    I still think you need to keep doing environment studies from photo reference, gotta learn the locale before you paint it. You are basically going off of memories of other people's paintings or the random postcard rack you saw two years ago.

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    hi mock; well, even if you havent updated so much at least you've been practicing! which is more then I can say. that woman in the 3rd drawing on your last lost looks great; love those hands. I can see what ppl mean with a bit of flatness in you digital work though. looking at the last peice, I think it's got to do with the contrast between light and dark, and the using of softness; right now, there's a lot of softness in the foreground as well; that kind of breaks the suggestion of debth. added to it, your shadows/light areas dont relly contrast that sharply.

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    I agree with the colour, and and the flat poses.

    You should work with those shadow edges, It whould help with your modeling. Look at Elwells Tutorial>>>>>.LINK

    The poses need Dynamism, Study poses like Contrapposto, the twist and the head, ribcage and pelvis.

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    Progress mock!

    Always a pleasure seeing your name as last post by

    Thumbs up and see you at the workshop.

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    Love the enviro on page 1.
    Keep it up.

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    I've been getting that hopeless feeling recently, but you guys make me feel like it's possible. =) I have such a long way to go, but watching this SB bounce back and forth between 4 and 5 stars is motivating. Someday I'll earn that 5th one.

    Been looking through Bumskee's sketchbook all day. Freaking amazing. I feel totally re-inspired.

    RobertB: Consider it done. I went out and bought a new one today for drawing only hands and feet. =)

    pepps: Thanks! I feel like I should re-do that image, but I ended up scrapping the entire thing. I just wasn't putting the thought I needed to into it at the early stages, and the result was a jumbled up mess I couldn't sort out.

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    Gaussian: Clearly we were separated at birth! Congratulations on making that leap into pursuing what you love rather than what's secure. I know it can be intimidating. =) As for motivation and dedication.. it comes and goes. Someday you think, "I can do this", others you feel hopeless. It's all about pushing through those downtimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mock View Post
    I've been getting that hopeless feeling recently, but you guys make me feel like it's possible. =) I have such a long way to go, but watching this SB bounce back and forth between 4 and 5 stars is motivating. Someday I'll earn that 5th one.

    Been looking through Bumskee's sketchbook all day. Freaking amazing. I feel totally re-inspired.

    Helioth: Nice to see you in here, man. Can't wait for Dallas. I'm panicking about having people there see my portfolio already, haha.


    Don't panick! Just be selective... quality over quantity with these things as far as i can tell!
    Obviously, within reason, 1 piece is not a portfolio, although it may carry it :p

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    Hey hey. Nice to see you update. Quick crit ( hate doing these but got alot of stuff to do today)

    Colours!( not mispelled I r canadian)
    - Paint from life, especially your skin tones.(Sp's are awesome for this)

    Im gonna edit this later tonight, but now i gotta go. MOre later i promise.

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    I think I just had somewhat of a breakthrough when it comes to environment painting, colors, values.. and a lot of things. I make things too opaque and solid, and I think that's partially responsible for things having such a flat look, like the wheat field in the last image. I noticed while looking at a lot of Bumskee's environment work that the contrast between sharp, refined shapes and less detailed areas adds a lot of depth. (Basic, I know. Forgive me for being thick. XD) I'm only writing this down in here so that I keep it in mind in the future.

    Still a long way to go, but at least its a step in the right direction. I'm trying to get braver with my values and not shy away from darks so much.

    Painted while looking at jungle photographs. Some stuff is from ref, some is made up. Will probably refine the BG in this one a bit more.

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    Ok, new breakthrough= new post Btw I can see the improvement in what you posted above me and I am super impressed.

    So heres some crits: Hope they arent too harsh.

    - You need to finish everything, from studies to eighty hour drawings. This is the only way to push us and find out where are true weaknesses are.You will also notice that the artists that have tons of WIP's are the ones that don't improve as fast as the completionists. Also it improves patience and concentration cause you wont have the time to mess around ( not saying you are just It's what I do haha) I do understand that time is a concern so focus on what is most important with what you are doing. What are your goals? Do i want this fabric to look right, So i should focus on it rather than the body after i build the structure of what is holding it up. Is this a character development piece? Then i should establish the silhouette and gesture so it is different than the average Joe.

    - ALWAYS ALWAYS think of composition, especially in studies. Why you ask? because everyone (should) complete tons of these. And practice makes perfect. Good sense of composition can make a person that can draw stick people better than the medium skilled person on this website. So study it!
    With your latest character piece, it was very unbalanced. Also my eyes didn't really know what to look at cause nothing caught and held my eyes.

    Heres a link that is focused on what you are doing now Landscapes
    http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/135/120/

    -This is where I am afraid I might become harsh please don't take it personal.
    But what I need to say is that although you have awesome Ideas and execution(rendering etc) all this technical skill isn't worth a lot if you don't do something special with it.
    Oh two characters standing beside each other... thats nice.
    Make stuff happen! Take that image and make it dance around in my mind! Always ask your self " How can I make this less boring?", from start to finish but that start is SUPER IMPORTANT. So plan things out; this can be very quick, but a plan is like the scaffolding to a building it keeps us in line while we make beautiful arches. Avoid becoming stale, make some action happen, vary stances, make us emotionally involved in something! Concept artists need to convey a message instantly, that is there job. To tell us what this painting, person, or monster does and how we should feel about it.
    Like I always tell actors I am directing " We are the audience, you tell us how to feel or we will choose to not care at all."

    The reason I am saying this is that we are only ever remembered for our worst work. You could die in your sleep or get hit by a bus sometime and you need to make sure that on that last day of drawing you not only put your heart and soul into something and made it interesting to you but tried to make it a good piece to look at.

    - colour Studies!! try some small canvases on Pshop that focus purely on colour. Try some without any real drawing and some with! they will make you into a colour master faster than you can think! (I love the focus on values first though )
    check these
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    These were done by Robogabo http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...=71911&page=68"]

    -YESS studying of other pictures is what turned Carlos Duran into not just some next painter but the master teacher of Sargent! Bumskee is also a personal hero of mine he's soo dreamy
    BUT although he is awesome never forget to check out the masters
    Here are some links to some landscape guys i admire
    Thomas Moran-http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/databa...aid=733&page=1
    Caspar David Friedrich-http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/databa...aid=179&page=3

    In conclusion i hope you got what i was saying with the whole "Make stuff happen" section of the crit. I wasnt trying to insult, just saying that i KNOW with all my heart you can make me walk away from this thread saying " damn i get what that woman in tribal makeup is like just from how she is standing." or " what a scene, look how shes crying". You are a great artist, much better than I am, and well on your way to the CA atelier.

    P.s I must say again that I love that landscape

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    Oh Mock your progression is simply amazing. Especially your enviros. No crits, you are just amazing. Keep it up.

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    Thanks, spaz! Slowly but surely, haha.

    Genome, being offended by that crit would be the most ungrateful response possible. I am extremely appreciative that you took the time and thought to write that out. These are thing I need to get better. And when I can finally someday call myself a professional, I'll have you (and people like you) to thank for it. =)

    I know what you mean by needing to finish things. I have piled of WIPs that I never push to completion. I always considered it laziness, but I think it might be more that I get stuck and don't push myself to complete it after I'm at a loss for what direction to go. So I'll start completing everything from now on. I'm also studying composition a lot more now, so hopefully that will show up in future work.

    As for making things happen... yeeeah. I need to work on that a lot, huh? Don't worry, I don't take it as an insult at all. It's a fact, and the only way I'm going to improve is to face that fact and overcome it. So pointing it out is a favor to me. I'll start working a lot more on action, pose, and expression.

    Color studies look incredibly fun. I'm going to do some of those now to give myself a time out from cast drawing. And I'll check out those masters and the site on composition you linked before I start my next environment set later today. =)

    Thanks again. You always give incredibly helpful crits!

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    Good stuff in here. And what a great crit you got from Genome!

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    Muhahaha, I found you! Great work so far, btw. I'm of the belief that the more landscapes you do, the more sophisticated your painting skill gets. (Thats why ive done all of...one. lol) Keep at it!

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    great stuff! you sure work hard I notice you sometimes tend to make the top of the head a bit too long? just an observation...keep it up!

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    Hey, some real cool colour tests and not to mention the designs you have there, keep those going, I wanna see more!

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    Really profiting off the crits here. I want more! CRIT HER ASS OFF PLEASE.

    (also post more.)

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    I really like your sketchbook... but... your avatar gives me the creeps! WTF is the Ewok doing!???

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    It's great to see someone working so hard to improve! Great work ethic, man. Keep pushing and you'll get exactly where you want to be in no time at all, I'm sure!

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    go mock go! awesome sb !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Noeth View Post
    I really like your sketchbook... but... your avatar gives me the creeps! WTF is the Ewok doing!???

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    Loving, man. He is loooooving him.

    Mischeviouslittleelf: Haha, I wish I could take credit for those. However, they were done by Robogabo. Hopefully I will have a lot of my own to post very soon, inspired by the ones that Genome linked.

    I'll hopefully have some more stuff to post coming up soon. Sorry for being so absentee lately, guys. I've been sinking a lot of time into this cast drawing and studying composition (and this weeks ChoW.. trying to take Genomes advice and make some action happen!), so there's not as much actual work to show. I will also respond to comments individually when I have a good update. Thanks for all of the kind words and support. You guys keep me motivated. =)

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    looking good. one suggestion i have is in regards to your figure studies. try to forget about lines and details and think mostly about posture, volume and light. next time you draw a human figure, squint the details away and use a fairly hard leaded pencil to render the gesture and light/shadow only. don't bother with a single detail. then pull out a softer lead and work out the darker shadows and largest areas of detail, repeat with softer leads and darkest shadows (pulling out highlights with an eraser) until you have a full spectrum of value. try this a few times and you'll start to get a real sense for how unimportant 99% of details are.

    just an exercise i like to do as a warm up ;P

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    more drawings ! arr. and... more.... more :]

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