I have to agree with WhizBang, you're just not being realistic. I love art, I'm very passionate about it. I don't think it has anything to do with...what was it? Being one with the Galaxy? That's all well and good, you be one with the galaxy, while your doing that, I'll put faith in something I can rely on. Hard facts. So, in ten years from now, I'll have acclimated to the buisness side of art, and subsequently made money, while you stand on the street corner preaching about how us "souless bastards" are making money and that that's bad.
Oh, and dropping the 'f' bomb isn't making your point any more poignant.
Edit: After cooling down a bit I find that I must apologize for coming on so strongly, I just don't like it when people attack other people's opinions. So I am sorry.
My point about the cursing still stands though.
I do still agree with WhizBang though.
Last edited by Pirate Lord78; June 7th, 2008 at 09:04 PM.
I like how you justify being mediocre by having a secure middle class income. that's laughable. heehee
You should forget about money and throw yourself into your work....art is life.
indeed, arrogant...didn't I say that?
Well I don't know, I still have a year to decide
I'm not quite sure where you're pulling "mediocre" out of, in all probability, it's your ass, but nonetheless you're still being incredibly unrealistic.
And, if what your saying is to be successfull means having mediocre artwork...well just look around on this board, there are plenty of phenominal artists, who make a good living, why? Because they know how to, sure they are just as passionate as you, in all likelihood probably more, but they also have experience in how the world of buisness works. Who, you might ask? Jason Chan, Marko Djurdjevic, and Jason Manley. Just to name a few.
So stop making yourself sound like a fool, and don't say I didn't try to give you the benefit of the doubt, I apologized for my quick retort, but you still started spewing your nonsense anew. You deserve everything you get ma'am.
You don't want to wait too long if you are intent on higher education as soon as you've finished high school, otherwise, it will become more difficult to secure financial awards or financial aid. Also many people go through years of not knowing what they want to do so don't stress about it too much yet, you find something that you are far more passionate about than art.
I admire your quest for enlightenment, however, the negativity in your posts suggest that you are on a false path. (I mean this in all honesty).
Good Luck to you both
"when you're standing on a street corner"
Name dropper too....cute...I am a successful artist so screw you, fucker.
Business works by sheer drive and pleasure taken in business. It's not driven by money, anyone who focuses on that will fail. Good business moves are based on making waves and driving out the competition through intense application and acceleration.
There's always "money" to go around....what you fail to see beyond your career schtick (which is all mediocre people ever bring to the table) is that art is not ABOUT money, it's not about greed. It's about ART.
Art is a dangerous territory anyways..the "devil" card for instance stands in for the art card in some tarot decks...In the book of the law Aiwass states:
"31. For these fools of men and their woes care not thou at all! They feel little; what is, is balanced by weak joys; but ye are my chosen ones."
(and by and by coming to you, woodbert)
Negative? If that means not being some fluffy new age piece of shit, sure...
I'm a Satanist, so being negative isn't really something I'm concerned about. Transcendence of duality...is.
"11. This shall be your only proof. I forbid argument. Conquer! That is enough. I will make easy to you the abstruction from the ill-ordered house in the Victorious City. Thou shalt thyself convey it with worship, o prophet, though thou likest it not. Thou shalt have danger & trouble. Ra-Hoor-Khu is with thee. Worship me with fire & blood; worship me with swords & with spears. Let the woman be girt with a sword before me: let blood flow to my name. Trample down the Heathen; be upon them, o warrior, I will give you of their flesh to eat!"
- Ra-Hoor-Khuit (aka badass motherfucker)
You say art is not about money, but you base your success on the fact you can slap a 400 dollar price tag on a drawing. There are artists here who are exponentially better and more passionate than you, but I guess they are still "mediocre" huh?I am a successful artist so screw you, fucker.
You are so hypocritical... sheesh. Will you shut up already? You are making the same mistakes you made under your last alias.
Last edited by Justin.; June 9th, 2008 at 01:31 PM.
Candras, I suggest you remain undecided on a major and take an array of classes at maybe a local college? Or if you're accepted at a university or college of your choosing, discuss it with the Counselor. What's great is that, during college, people expect you to "change" your mind. It's sort of hard to say what you like or want to do fresh out of high school. Get the exposure, talk to some Professors and ask them about what they do. You might get hooked on something that is in art, or something totally different.
Your first two years are a good time to decide! If you're certain that you want to go to art, everyone takes the same required and basic courses for every major.
And I leave the rest of you with this quote:
"Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't." - Margaret Thatcher
First of all don't EVER call me a mysogynist. I find that exceedingly offensive. I don't hate women, I hate pompous, arrogant, people who have an over-inflated sense of self-worth.
Second of all your art is, putting it nicely, sub-par at best so don't delude yourself.
You also have no room to be talking about "new-age shit"
You were the one talking about "Being one with the galaxy"
And don't take it out on Woodbert, he was quite polite, he respectfully disagreed with you, and then you fly off the handlebar.
I also completely agree with Justin, you're becoming slightly hypocritical as this thread progresses.
And don't flaunt your non-comformist ways, I'm a name dropper? Well here's you spewing all of your religious garbage. Satanist eh? Really, I think you're trying a bit too hard.
I have to stress once again that all of this cursing is excessive and unnecessary. It does nothing to prove your point. It only proves how archaic and uncivilized you are. Everybody please note how I can form a valid argument without resorting to bad language.
Maybe by successful she meant people are interested in her art, love it, her art found its viewers. That's certainly success as any artist can only dream about. She didn't say anything about money.
And her words are pretty understandable IMO. Love what you do and make it your first priority.