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    Laser Eye Surgery

    I'm considering Laser eye surgery, (Intralase specifically), and just wanted to scour my artistic peers for their thoughts on it.

    On one hand, the horrors of subjective complications make me cringe, the thought of trying to draw with something like double-vision sounds like it should be a circle of hell.

    On the other hand, I am legally blind without my glasses. It would be awful nice to see the whole nude posing or landscape without having to court whiplash.

    Have any of you had Laser Eye Surgery? What are your thoughts on it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by davi View Post
    god i would kill for laser eyes

    and i would kill with them too...
    lazer eyes, that would be awesome. Then you'd be just as good as cyclops though.
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    *shudder* Do one eye at a time? Then if doc fucks up one, you still have the other and can be the cool guy with the eye-patch!

    But seriously, I had a prof who's artist friend had it done in the beginning of the industry and got double-halo. I had a older co-worker who had work done a few yrs ago and pretty much lost his eyesight in one eye. Then I had a friend from high school who had it done, turned out fine and loves it. *shrug* Do you research thoroughly, not just on what goes into doing it, but WHO is doing it.
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    Nooooo don't do it!

    They slice open your cornea and shine LASERS! Into your EYES! D: While you're awake. OH GOD It's fucking barbaric. I get sick even thinking about it. :X
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuppyKitten View Post
    They slice open your cornea and shine LASERS! Into your EYES! D: While you're awake. OH GOD It's fucking barbaric. I get sick even thinking about it. :X
    And THIS is why I shudder. I'm not a doc, but I've heard that the process involving cutting the cornea? It doesn't heal back. It's just a flap that is held on by the vaccum of the eyeball. EUWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwww.

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    My grandma has had laser surgery twice, and has a better life because of it. Without it, she'd be blind.

    And a friend of mine could finally throw away the glasses, he had so bad sight he was nowhere close to be allowed a license to drive a car. Now he has one.

    So I'm all for laser surgery. What I do mind though, is if this is in a country where you'd have to make sure you checked up the surgeon doing the procedure. Make sure he/she has done it for a while, is up to date on your specific condition (as there's several reasons people would have eye surgery), and has no history with ruinings patients eyesight earlier. It's a pretty scary thing to do without checking up on the procedure and the people doing it. And be sure to get a second opionion no matter what, to be sure that whatever they tell you is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirana View Post
    And THIS is why I shudder. I'm not a doc, but I've heard that the process involving cutting the cornea? It doesn't heal back. It's just a flap that is held on by the vaccum of the eyeball. EUWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwww.
    It does heal, it's just held in place by the vacuum until it heals.

    I don't plan on getting laser eye surgery any time soon, but that's mostly just because I don't mind wearing glasses. If my glasses were a bother, I probably wouldn't hesitate getting it. It has a 95% satisfaction rate, and the tech gets better every day. It's significantly safer than regularly wearing contact lenses.


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    I want to do it. Mostly because I want to be able to wear sweet sunglasses.

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    I want to do it. Mostly because I want to be able to wear sweet sunglasses.
    they have these things called prescription lenses now. I've got some, they're pretty sweet

    contacts too, actually
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    Apparently one of the biggest inconveniences of laser eye surgery is dry eye - constantly suffering with scratchy dry eyes and having to use eye drops for the rest of your days. Has something to do with severing the corneal nerve which does something to the tear ducts. I'm not too clued up on the details, but this is something that I briefly read about

    I so want to get it done.... imagine waking up first thing in the morning and being able to see! or lying down and not warping your glasses, or not bashing your boyfriend's face with your nerd glasses when you kiss him

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    See, if having the surgery is an improvement on your life that glasses or contacts cannot provide (ie Sorknes examples) then I'm all for it. Otherwise? My contacts are just fine. I figure the longer I wait, the more they'll improve their techniques anyway.

    Glasses give me super-bad headaches...how do you guys do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visionspring View Post
    Apparently one of the biggest inconveniences of laser eye surgery is dry eye - constantly suffering with scratchy dry eyes and having to use eye drops for the rest of your days.
    Quote for the true

    I had 2 different kind of eye drops. One is for normal use, couple times a day. The other is for first thing in the morning because eye dry up while you sleep. It's not that bad once your get used to it. Make sure search for a good and experience doctor to do the surgery. I heard bad story before, and I also experience a bad doctor try to push me do the surgery at the same day when I visit. I later find out the method he recommend is not suit for me and I glad I didn't take his offer.

    Before the lasik, I'm had really bad eyes. I can only see things 3 inches in front of me. Eye glasses give me bad headache--it's too heavy and slide down frequently.
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    Har, let me give you my experience from working in the eyecare industry for about 7 months.

    First off, I don't recommend working in the eyecare industry for any amount of time... No matter how tempting the prospect of free eye exams, glasses, and contacts sounds. EVER! Although I did get about $730 worth of glasses (and who knows how much contacts) in those 7 months I worked there.

    I met a lot of older people who had refractive surgery (which more of an umbrella term than laser surgery) and almost all of them loved it and said they would do it again in a heartbeat. Granted, they needed glasses now that they were older and developed presbyopia (inability to focus on close objects due to age, not to be confused with farsightedness or hyperopia) but they all told me how much they loved it and encouraged me to do the same. (I'm super near sighted)

    However, working as an optician we get to see all kinds of doctor's prescriptions and have the misfortune of dealing either directly or indirectly with a number of different doctors. Indirectly because the doctor didn't properly inform their patient about the prescription, and then we have to explain it... (but they don't trust us because we're not doctors) Or we actually have to call these people because the prescription they wrote makes no sense.

    Needless to say, it makes you very aware of who is a good doctor and who is not. And that bad doctors are plentiful.

    I also have heard a number of horror stories where for instance the surgeon accidentally did the same procedure twice on the same eye, effectively blinding the patient permanently. (Or something to that effect)

    Anyway, do lots of research. And that one eye at a time approach might not be a bad way to go about it.

    Oh and prescription sunglasses suck. For a number of reasons, but I don't want to bore anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gory View Post
    I also have heard a number of horror stories where for instance the surgeon accidentally did the same procedure twice on the same eye, effectively blinding the patient permanently. (Or something to that effect)

    Anyway, do lots of research. And that one eye at a time approach might not be a bad way to go about it.
    And in the case of the above doc, should you go in with one that's already done, put a big X on the lid of it.
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    I have heard some first hand accounts of eye surgery gone bad. I would not have eye surgery for the sake of convenience only. On the other hand, the status quo may not have a good outcome either.

    It seems like a case of risk balancing. You need to compare the outcome of a worst case surgery scenario with the outcome of doing nothing? You might find the worst case scenario of either alternative is blindness, but one of the alternatives gives you a reasonable probability of decent vision.
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    Thank you for your input and advice, folks.

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    I new a lady who got it and it made her eyes worse
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    JK- It can last for 7 minutes, days, months, years, or it can last forever. Certain patients eyes have higher success rates than others. The one good thing to note is if your eyesight does get worse it doesn't necessarily immediately go back to where you started out.

    So even if it does happen, people with particularly bad eyesight are still better off.

    As for earthquakes, I'm sure that can complicate any surgery.

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    I had laser surgery myself only last year, and since I've been wearing glasses for a long time it was a really welcome relief. I have 20/20 vision now, the only issue (not really a problem) is that my eyes are much more sensitive to light now and I have to turn down my monitor brightness to the lowest level - and if they get exposed to really bright lights it can almost hurt. My night vision however seems to be even more 'grainy' than before, although I can still see albeit very limitedly.

    The dry eyes went away after a few months, btw. I don't need to use eye drops at all. Then again, as mentioned before, it's different for everyone.

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    I want it. I use contacts with my cool sunglasses, but when i work at the computer i don't blink as often, and i dry up like crazy and it becomes uncomfortable. And switching between disposable contacts and glasses becomes expensive in the long run.

    I'm gonna wait ~5 years tho.

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    Want it to...but I can`t afford it...and i want to wait till the risk of losing the thing that is most important for a visually working artist is at a far lower minimum. I don`t want to ruin my entire life because doc fucks my eyes up...But until i can afford it , it is probably that time anyways...
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    Your thread made me do some research on Lasik surgery.
    I found this site http://www.usaeyes.org/ which is offering information to consider and ask to your chosen surgeon. Here are the tough questions which help you to decide.
    http://www.usaeyes.org/lasik/faq/las...-questions.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirana View Post
    And in the case of the above doc, should you go in with one that's already done, put a big X on the lid of it.
    New glasses always give me really bad headaches, always. It takes about a week of wearing them constantly until the headaches are gone and life is good again.

    I love my glasses, but i would do laser eye surgery in a SPLIT SECOND if they thought that otherwise I was astronaut material.

    I WANT TO BE AN ASTRONAUT SO BAD.

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    my mom got it a few months ago. She hasn't complained about anything, not even dry eyes. Since she got it she has had 20/20 vision and loves it; before her eyes were slowly degrading and this has helped a lot. You should probably be wary of the doctor you get to do it. My mom got it from one of the most renown eye doctors in the U.S. who just so happens to be close to were we live. I have the same problem my mom had and am considering risking the operation but only if it was from the same doctor.

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    my glasses are the only thing that make me look slightly intelligent, so no surgery for me, definately not-.

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    hmm, I've got 20/12 vision already, you think they could get me to 20/8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirana View Post
    And THIS is why I shudder. I'm not a doc, but I've heard that the process involving cutting the cornea? It doesn't heal back. It's just a flap that is held on by the vaccum of the eyeball. EUWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwww.
    It doesnt heal back? Im not sure about that.

    If you are correct I am officially not going to spend the rest of my life with a barely stuck on eye flap that sounds like it can open up if im in the shower.

    But i doubt it doesnt heal back, that sounds ridiculous. eyeballs heal, my friend got a bit of an injury on his eyeball, it healed. i dont know where you got your info

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