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    Zazerzs' Anatomy Box:studying anatomy crits and comments welcomed

    Hi, thank you for visiting my thread. I've let my drawing slip a bit these past years, not doing it much if at all, and its time to get it going again. To start I'm going to do a bunch of anatomy studies. I'll use Artistic Anatomy by Dr. Paul Richer and the Bridgman books. For the start I'll keep the time short on em and move on trying not to get to bogged down if my measurements go a little a stray, I'll tighten up more once i knock some of this rust off.

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    Some more. Back and side

    Some more. Back and sides

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    and some hands and eyes

    and some hands and eyes.. thats all for now, off to make a few more. Oh and Comments are welcome kind of doing this in a box so to speak.

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    My set up

    Here are the tools I'll be using and my set up.

    Conte pencil HB, Cutter and Sanding board for sharpening.

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    2 from tonight

    and the two from tonight. Looks like I'm destroying my faces need to fix that.

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    great little thread, and some nice pencil work. I like the way you have everything laid out. And the gloves you wear..its the sort of thing a slick serial killer would display his handiwork! LOL.
    Do you draw form life also?

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    Thanks Gurch. I do draw from life but not in years. I will return to open life drawing sessions soon. I'm in the Seattle area and the Gage Academy of Art open studio is probably where I'll start.

    I'm going to try to keep this thread purely anatomical studies.

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    front

    another front, still getting measurements wrong here and there.

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    nice anatomical studies!!!
    the only thing is about your stile drawing.. is it usual pencil? or something like chalk? looks so fat.. IMO

    keep going...

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    Very good drawing man,what book are you drawing from?

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    Ekler: thank you, the pencil im using is a Conte pencil HB,I can sharpen it to as fine as a pencil point, although my lines are getting a little heavy,need to watch that. Something to improve.

    Dpendleton: thank you. The book im using currently is Artistic Anatomy by Dr. Paul Richer. I like the bridgman books for anatomy function, mechanics and structure, Artistic Anatomy for clear anatomy and Vanderpoel for surface shading.

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    Nice studies so far, it's great to see someone really working on anatomy nose to the grindstone. One thing you're missing is a feeling for the bones, your drawings focus a bit much on the muscles and don't look very solid as a result. What you should do is draw the bones first and draw the muscles from origin to insert, so if you're drawing say, the vastus internus, you'd draw the pelvis, femur, tibia and patella...and the fibula if you want, then start at the smaller trochanter and draw the bone down to the common tendon. This way is moire analytical and will help you out more in the long run. If you do end up studying at the Gage, make sure to study some constructive drawing on your own, to round out your draftsmanship. Hope this helps

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    Thanks Pancho: I agree I'm concentrating too much on the muscles, after you mentioned it I noticed I haven't layed out any bone points yet ..dang
    I'll do the skeleton 1st exercises soon. Constructive drawing is on the list of things to do I'm pretty much going back to basics. I plan on just dropping into the Gage life-drawing classes on the weekend no instructional classes. I am interested in Juliette Aristides, she studied at the same studio I did, at different times. Unfortunately my time there was brief.


    Here are two from tonight. My goal right now is to get through the examples in the back of Artistic Anatomy.

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    2 from tonight

    2 from tonight.

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    These are all fantastic. studies though they are the style is awesome, keep at it =)

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    Very inspirational progress there. I'll look to shape my pencils that way as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitevillage View Post
    Very inspirational progress there. I'll look to shape my pencils that way as well.
    Thanks Twitch and Whitevillage , just becareful cause they tend to break.

    Was away for a bit, 2 from tonight

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    only one today meh :/

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    nice studies, Zazerzs, you have an almost comic book way of drawing, quite architectural even, with your use of small straight lines instead of curved, i have a tendency to do that, i put mine down to my engineering background......but your measurments are very good and you have a very good eye for detail.....
    excellent work, keep it up.....

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    Thanks krispee.

    from tonight, one step back it seems, plus two

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    I really like what you are doing here. very good. I wish to do more anatomy work. Your work is very good.

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    Thanks Sketchie.

    two more from tonight. Done with the torso section for now, kinda sluffed the back twist one a bit... got to heavy handed around the head... I'll probably post my memory tests too, see how much is retained and what I need to study more. onto arms!

    and I'll add the arms to this as well,

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    arm set#2

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    arm set 3 plus 2

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    nice studies..try investing on a skeleton..they sell it cheap..you wont get anywhere until you draw the bones first..and try your hand at observing the real thing..trust me..ritcher and brigman are excellent..but at the end you have too look and draw from the real thing..Just know im starting to sculpt each bone (with plastiline and then painting it with acrylic) from life..just now things are starting to make sense..even though i drew the bridgman book twice..and have drawn from countless books..anatomy is to be had first hand..but yeah..this also help...
    also after you finish copying this try to do them from memory..to really see how much you are learning..drawing anatomy from your mind is imperative..good luck
    have you look at his dvds..right now im studying from the dvds..lesson 131 hehe..im drawing along with him..
    even though they are not the best anatomy drawings..the way riven approaches anatomy has helped understand it more..get it its cheap..then all the bridgman and ritcher will make more sense.. http://thestructureofmandvd.blogspot.com/

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    Thanks the_allejo05 . I agree with ya, I've been on the fence about buying a skeleton for a while, didnt want a cheap one and wanted one with a decent skull. I 've been searching around the net and found one that will hopefully work, just ordered it.

    I do memory drawings already, only posted one i did, quickly a few weeks ago. Need to do them more regularly though. I'll post more when i have em.

    the DvDs are cheap enough to give a try, I've been curious about them.

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    love the new arm studies, Zazers......i have Jeno Barcsay for my anatomical studies, but i`ve heard that Bridgeman is also excellent for that, plus i have a lot of Loomis books and stuff....but nothing beats from life of course.....

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    Thanks again krispee. I have Jeno Barcsay in my collection and have drawn from it before, there are some nice plates in there. I have most of the well known anatomy books Albinus, Peck,Rimmer,Schider,Hale,Bridgeman,Richer,Leonardo plates, and a few medical ones although i don't use the medical ones much. Well those are the ones i like at least. I dig Bridgeman, ill be mixing in more of that soon. Here's a small update as I wait for my skeleton to arrive. Last arm from the set, onto legs.

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    Wonderful work! It's not very often that you get to see such detailed drawings of human anatomy on here! I look forward to seeing more!

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    Hey Zazerzs, thanks for dropping by my sketchbook, well I must say I admire your diligence, my only advice would be to try Hogarth anatomy books they show really good how to put all of this human machinery in motion and space, anyways keep it up.

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