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    Question how do you guys hold your drawing tool

    I went to my first art student's league class in anatomy with life drawing with Frank Porcu. After drawing for a while he explained to me and this guy next to me that the writing method of holding the pencil is incorrect for drawing. He showed us a method that uses the shoulder rather than the wrist. Is this grip good for all types of drawings or for just large scale? Its hard for me to imagine doing details or technical work with this grip. Feedback please
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    Yeah I got told that by Costa V. I just use that to set up the big lines and get the gesture. I find it hard to control for short distances but its great for making straight lines and arcs. I think its to wean you off the finicky sort of line making that you do when you hold the pencil like youre gonna write with it. The two instructors I have use just the side and long arcs to create whatever they do. I guess it just takes practice. Sharpen up your pencil too so you have a nice long nose to it. It makes it easier to put in tone.
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    hehe yea he constantly sharpened the pencil he was using to show me. it looks like a great technique for charcoal. I guess I have to just practice and do the excercise he reccomended
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    eh what excercise is that? I could do with some practice too.
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    the method in which your both discussing is how most draughtsmen today do drawings. Its how tonal drawings are done. The charcoal pencil or whatever pencil is sharpened to to a tapered point, and it allows you to get a multitude of line weights. You can get a variation in line with a normal pencil. Plus your wrist doesn't have the range of motion your shoulder does and you can't fill in large masses of tone that way. But by drawing from your shoulder this is much easier. And yeah you can get into fine details this way too. It just takes practice to build up your dexterity with the pencil. Tonal drawing is like painting in charcoal, and all the masters like sargent and sorolla and so on drew this way. Go and look and kevin chens stuff or fredflickstones charcoal drawings on these forums. Those drawings are done this way, from the shoulder, with the kind of tapered pencil I mentioned. A good way to practice is to just draw ovals and pull lines in multiple directions and see what kind a line variation you can create. Anyway hope this clears up some stuff.
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    the ovals were very similar to what he reccomended us to do. He told me to draw a circle and then draw circles that go around its form like a ball of yarn. He varied it by creating objects with the circle and making some of the lines parallel to create thickness of lines. He said do it 10 - 50 times a day for a few weeks and you'll get it down
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    can anybody post a pic of this method

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    Wow I practiced it for a day and used it for another class at ASL and I can do things I couldn't do before.. like draw faces somewhat accurately. The method is really simple, just draw a circle and then imagine it in 3d as a sphere. Draw the lines that go around that sphere. And repeatedly add lines until you can't tell where your drawing . I would post an example but I can only do perfect circles for now
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    This is the best method ever. I use it in my sketchbook at times. It does take practice, and a lot of messing with, but it helps so much. An easy way to describe the "hold" would be a toothbrush. Hold it like you brush your teeth, and let your knuckles glide across the page in smooth long strokes. I also practice doing curves and such before every life drawing session. It helps a lot. IF you guys have never heard of Conte pencils, they are the tool to use for fig drawing (imo). Kevin Chen uses them, and so do many people. If you can get em, they are called CONTE pencils, A Paris France 1710 and I suggest 2B. They last longer. Make sure its 1710 though, cuz if they aren't then its like you're using a totally different pencil.

    hope I helped!
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    oh thx for the information about the technique, people! and thx for the info of the conte pencil, i.was.ink! really helpful!
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    thanks for the info guys
    thanks iwasink, I couldn't remember how to hold a toothbrush, so I just brushed my teeth and now I remember
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    Thats how you do it... I swear ! lol also use your pinky as an anchor when applying the lines so you dont smear the charcoal.

    happy penciling

    how do you guys hold your drawing tool

    -dns

    my hand looks fat in that picture... i guess its true what they say about the camera adding weight.
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    Conte pencils are the best thing since Ritmos ... maybe i should have taken the picture with that instead of the Wolffs Carbon. hmmmm... Go with the 1710, i suggest the B so you can stay lighter if your heavy handed.

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