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    needs advice

    ok so im 17 almost 18 and im going to be graduating from highschool in 2 months
    all throught highschool i have been into art and its the only thing i think i would really love doing, and seeing most of whats out there i have taken web design classes, graphic design. but mostly i like fine arts painting drawing ect
    and i am thinking i want to go into illistration
    like concept artist for games

    how do i get there ?
    i live in michian and i think i might enroll in ccs(collage for creative studies)
    i mean can someone just give me the roundabout
    whats it like and stuff ?


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    Perhaps if you posted some art we'd have a better idea of where you're at...

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    You need Really thick skin,

    An unwavering will in the face of allmost endless BS.

    Lots of practice hours...lots...no, DAYS of practice, no...weeks...no...years, yes Years of practice.

    The ability to render out ideas with speed, and accuracy. No one likes waiting on thier artist for five days to crank out a visual for them. Idea development and concept are keys here.

    You need to realise that they are going to ask you to redraw stuff...a lot...so haveing a few good images in your portfoilo, but took you 3 days to draw each proabley isn't the best idea. Again its about speed here.

    You got to understand the artists delimma. Nothing you do is going to be perfect. Your goal is to hit the sweet spot between quality and time it takes you to get the image done. Your trying (and will be compeating for jobs) on how you are able to get more quality in less time, and therefore, be worth more than you cost.

    Go to collage. Draw from life as much as you can. Be comfortable challangeing yourself to do better and try new things.

    Don't burn yourself out. take it easy this is what you like don't make it a burden, unless its crunch time. Thats different.

    You proabley suck at drawing right now, thats a good thing that means you have a lot of room to get better (learn to think positive).

    Be compeatitve, this is going to be your liveleyhood.

    Always be willing to learn. Always. Sure, you do know what you know, but shut up every ounce in a while to figure out what other people know, ABOUT what you know. You'll get perspective, and a wider angle on isshues.

    Don't be a jerk.

    Look, people are not going to take you seriousley, and quite frankley they don't have much of a reason to take you seriousley. Be prepared to have to show people that you are really serious about this. This means sketchbook, this means hard work, this means quality results. I'm not trying to discourage you, or beat up on you man, I'm just bored in class and decited to check out this post, and giveing my two cents. (not sure how much its worth) I'm sure some of the other guys got better adivice.

    But dont forget drive, dont forget to really sit down and ask yourself the questions.

    "Why do I want to spend 3 hours drawing something, when I could just take a picture?"

    Little things like that.

    Because there are going to be things that come up, time and time again that will test your resolve.

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    is it allright if i post some of my paintings and drawings right in here ?

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    Absolutley, in fact I suggest it.

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    ok one sec

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    can i put images from flick on here

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    Use the attachment manager, and upload them onto the site. click on "Go advanced" and click the paperclip button.

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    Vhan Juju really said it all- Being a professional concept artist is a lot more demanding than what one would think.

    For images I recommend Photobucket- or simply use the attachment manager.

    -Juhani

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    needs advice
    drawing from a year ago

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    needs advice
    still life from last year

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    needs advice
    painting i finished like 3 days ago

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    needs advice
    kinda shitty but work in progress
    i can upload some recent drawings from my sketchbook

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    If you don't have any anatomy books of your own, buy some, I suggest bridgeman. If you don't have any money. Check out the "Tons of free E-books" thread, and look at some there, and start drawing what you see in there a whole lot. bell rang, I got speech class later.

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    yea i was looking at some of the e books.
    i was looking at some of the drawings from the first e book listed and i can see how it helps.

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    It helps a lot. I mean, I just started one of the brigeman books and allready I'm seeing inprovements!

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    where are the e books

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    Briggsy's eBooks thread: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94571
    Carnifex's newbie guide: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=90377
    And if Seedling weren't busy with far more important things, she'd direct you to http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=81332 and http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76898
    You'll notice those are all stickied threads. Browsing the forums and checking out the stickies would be a really good place to start in general.
    For getting feedback on your work, you'd be better off starting a thread in the Sketchbooks section, or posting individual pieces in the Critique Center.
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    wow that hits the nail on the head thanks elwell

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    wow my girlfriend just broke up with me
    how should i handle this ?

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    it sucks so bad, and i have no canvis
    + no wood

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    We broke up with my girlfriend after 4 years a few months back too and it sucked so hard. Even the death of my father couldn't top that. Anyways- do what I did, concentrate on work or keep yourself as busy as possible in other ways.

    -Juhani

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    my advise would be to look for a multi disciplinary art course, their usualy 1 or 2 year courses. 1st year, you'll experience all aspects of art and design, from illustration to sculpture to architecture. These are usualy quite good becouse they teach you the basics of everything, and realy help you to decide which direction your best suited and most like. Becouse although you may think illustration is what you want now, in a years time you may realise you would much prefere to work in the film or animation business. Another option is fine art, this is more suitable for those who just love to be creative, but dont want to get involved in the design area, basicly gallery work, self motivated for creating art for joe public. but taking this route can be quite limiting in the job front later on.

    As for the girlfriend, can't help you there,best advise, go to art college and play the field, the female/male ratio in colleges are roughly 5/1

    ps.. if you do get into college, and you find it tough or even boring at times, as some people often do especially in the beginning, try to stick with it, becouse it can be a life changing experience, that very few people regret.
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    that sounds kinda nice
    that helps anthrel
    thanks alot .

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    idk i have a problem with expressing myself. i allwasys end up trying to limit myself, or i wont let go because i dont think i will get the product i want. or when i try to come up with an idea it dosent trun out the way i want it to

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    And if you really want to know the SECRET to making it big then buy Coro's video download..

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    coros video download ? link me to it
    is it possible to pirrate ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesorrow121 View Post
    coros video download ? link me to it
    is it possible to pirrate ?
    Not if you want to stay around here it's not.
    The video links are in the banners at the top of every page. Money from the DVDs and downloads is the main sources of funding for this site. Folks don't take kindly even the suggestion of pirating them.

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    ah ok my mistake sorry.
    i watched a few trailers on youtube for them they look intresting

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