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    FWIW:

    After watching Feng Zhu's Gnomon DVDs, I embarked on a quest for the now infamous Pilot Hi-Tec-C pen line, of which he uses in many of his works. A search of Conceptart.org revealed several threads on the topic, so I won't reiterate what was discussed. I have, however, contacted pilot with the intention of finding a similar product line available in the United States(and places abroad).

    The following is Pilot's response:

    "Thank you for your recent E-mail message. Yes, due to our marketing agreement with our parent company, and in some cases patent restrictions, we are unable to either sell or stock this item.

    Each Pilot Affiliate has a specific list of products available to them and the residents of their marketing area. They may not sell outside of their area, nor may they sell directly to consumers. We are sorry to say these pens are unavailable to you unless you travel abroad.

    Our Precise PV-5 and 7 would be equivalent to the Hi-Tec. However, we have only .5mm and .7mm available. Nothing smaller is available. These can be viewed on our website www.pilotpen.us under the Rolling Ball line.

    If you would like samples sent please supply your complete mailing address and specify your color preference."


    Note that only .5mm and .7mm are available. 0.3mm, and 0.4mm are not included in the US product line.

    I thought this information would be somewhat valuable to the community, as this matter has posed a considerable annoyance for many of us. If anyone has found a suitable replacement, please post your findings so that we can have this thread as a resource for later user perusal.

    I pray that this thread is posted in the proper forum, and I apologize to the Conceptart.org staff if I have posted this thread in error.

    Thank you all for your time.

    -3DZ

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    i just use 'staedtler' pigment liner 0.2 mm.

    its not the materials that make the artist!
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    cartoonfox:

    Much apprecieated. Let me mention that I completly agree with you that the materials don't make the artist. I am personally new to Inking, and cannot find a SIMILAR product that Feng has used to teach. This was simply my attempt to further understand the options available, and to procure a source of inking instruments capable of producing the line work I am currently attempting to learn.

    You comments are, of course, dually noted.

    -3DZ

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    hey np. i didnt meen anything by it, just that there are alot of pens out there suitible to use for inking. i suggest trying out a few and finding one that suits your personal style.

    good luck.
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    Of course, no offence taken.

    Perhaps you could recommend a line of disposable pens that has 0.3mm, 0.4mm, and 0.5mm as options. I cannot seem to locate rollerball pens of any quality with these sizes.

    -3DZ

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    i use a steadtler 0.2 mm pen. i know they have a whole range of sizes, but i'm not sure where you would get them from (unless you live in cardiff )
    try going to your local art store and testing out a few.
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    Doug Chiang uses a Pilot Razor Point II pen. Might want to try that one out. Doug Chiang
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    (btw. I don't think that Pilot pens are the ultimate drawing tool which immediately generate feng-concepts :p)

    I use
    - Pilot V-something fountain pens
    - Faber-Castell ecco pigment 0.1, 0.3, 0.5
    - black ink con brushes & pens

    (anyways, at the moment I try to master the pencil... its my fav so far )

    cu
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    negativespace: Thanks for the heads-up. I'm looking into it now.

    cucaracha: Why did you feel the need to say that? Is it not obvious that I am making an attempt to study and practice certain conceptual design techniques utilizing the tools mentioned and used by the teacher from whom I'm learning?

    I fully understand that these pens are not the cream of the crop, but from the point of view of a beginner in inking, I must say I'm quite confused by all the choices available, as well as the lack of choices in pens that are available in a broad range of tip sizes.

    If I hear this one more time, I'm going to get a bit upset. What is wrong with making inquiries about drawing tools? Did I say I expected these pens to create the art for me? Perhaps I should have known better than to ask about them. I honestly don't understand why everyone continues to mention that "it's not the tools, it's the artist". I'm simply attempting to learn how to use pens to ink my work.
    I too am attempting to "master the pencil", but if I don't experiment with differing media, how will I ever progress? Do you tell people who are trying to learn about watercolor or oils manufactures that they can't expect the media to do the work for them?

    Thanks for the input, though, and I will redouble my efforts to understand the meriad thousands of pens apparently available for this task.

    -3DZ

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    hi. when we (or at least i) said "its not the materials that make the artist" i only said it because you seemed a bit upset or angry that you couldnt find the pens you wanted to buy, and i just wanted to explain to you not to worry, there are plenty of pens available that will do the job. maybe i used the wrong saying.
    i didnt mean, in anyway, to insult or anger you, and if i did, then i appolagise.

    i'm sure you will find the pens that fit your style perfectly, and i wish you good luck in practicing concept (or any other) art.


    have a nice day.
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    Listen, I'm sorry. I really did'nt mean to lose it like that. I just get upset when people assign motives to a seemingly innocent and reasonable question that are simply not there.

    It would seem that you gentlemen have seen a great deal of new artists that believe that if they can just get the tools, they can do quality work. I'm by no means a Feng fanboy, but I like his thinking and it seems to suit my personal style well. I guess I've been a bit excited the past few days because after watching his DVDs, I finally understood how to lay down ink well. I guess I was sorta insulted that people would abitraraly assign rather moronic motives to what I thought was a reasonable request/info-gathering-session. Try searching the 'net sometime for a pen that has all the characteristics of the Hi-Tecs, and you will find that there is a serious lack of similar products available to the US market.

    Eh.

    Thanks for all the replies, and I appologize for becoming too insensed over such a minor and rather ludacris matter. You gentlemen were only attempting to help, and I guess I read too much into the posts.

    -3DZ

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    i know exactly how you feel. i'm a newbie myself, and although i havent seen fengs dvd's, it was his art work that got interested and inspired to go into concept art.

    like i said earler, i recomend testing out a whole range of products, and finding the right ones for your style and proccess. it evan says that on fengs website!

    anyway, good luck in your search and art, looking forward to seeing some of your stuff.

    (btw, i find it funny how you called me 'gentleman'! lol, i dont think i'm old enough to be a gentleman (although i am male! ))
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    Ho, don't be offended. You noticed the smiley? Well it illustrates that I didn't post with a bad intention.

    Don't be angry, I just wanted to say that every pen is filled with some kind of ink and that every pen tip transfers it in some way to the paper. Just test some pens and take one that has a nice black ink and easily transfers it.

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