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April 4th, 2008 #1
Colossus from xmen. I am doing this for a friend's bday and unfortunately will have to give it away as soon as im done.
Currently still a work in progress. In these shots colossus is fully sculpted and baked, but the base is not.
note: the ridiculous "muscles" aren't actualy muscles, so interpret them as a design choice, a sort of alienesque "Texture" if you will.
(painted photos coming soon)
Last edited by Pavel Sokov; April 4th, 2008 at 09:56 PM.
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Holy Anatomy! Did you reference Rob Lefield art for this piece? There's a lot of work to be done on this man, starting with studying some anatomy. You've got at least 2 or 3 dozen muscles in there that don't exist, and they're all upper body. It also looks like his arms are swallowing his hands, they look like they were ripped of an action figure. If this is just a one off for a friend then right on, but if you actually wanna do some sculpting, you've gotta hit the anatomy books. Burne Hogarth's Dynamic Anatomy is a choice one, and my personal favorite, also some of Andy Smith's "how to draw comics books" kick ass as well. Keep at it man.
April 4th, 2008 #3
no dude, haha, let me explain myself. My anatomy is actualy fine in all my other works, but the thing is with this piece i made a choice to not allow him to be based off the human anatomy too much. The reason for that is that i wanted him to look as less human as possible, and more of an engineered machine rather then what the colossus actualy is, and that is a mutant. do you understand what i mean? i didnt want this to be a man that got radiated an turned into metal, i wanted this to be a sci-fi alienesque machine that was built from scratch.
The "bubbly" growths aren't muscles, I am not actualy retarded haha, i know where every single muscle is and i can sculpt and draw them correctly. Now knowing that, try to see the piece through my eyes, see it as sci-fi, as alien, and hopefully you will get a different impression from it. im about to post the painted photos, give them a look and see if u understood what i mean. Its like if i sculpted this http://www.smallartworks.ca/Gallery/Robot/Robot4.JPG and you would start telling me that the anatomy is off haha.
photo with a flash:
photos without the flash:
Last edited by Pavel Sokov; April 4th, 2008 at 09:52 PM.
April 5th, 2008 #4
he looks like he's dressed in bubble wrap
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April 5th, 2008 #5
thanks man! you guys are just jelouse of how intense he is with his 30 million bubble muscles!
I decided i am not done painting, I think i will inject more bronze in this piece. All of the spinal cord things will be bronze, the X's on his arms, the 2 circles right under his chest,etc.
i felt as though hes too bland, he only has 2 colours: body, and hair colour (which goes from black to lead colour, which i achieved accidently. i spray painted this beast originlly with very light silver. and then i painted the hair a very dark grey. and then as i painted the rest and held him by the head the grey would come off creating a sick lead colour that i have no idea how to achieve any other way. too bad i accidentally scratched it a million times, but whatever, wel call it battle damage)
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Hmmm, it's a nice concept, but you need to work on your anatomy. Even if all the bumpy pits are for effect, the underlying anatomy is still wrong. He seems too stocky. I like it, but If it was more realistic and looked more like the comics, it would be much better.
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April 5th, 2008 #7
well i wanted to make something extremely different then the classic colossus, thats the fun for me when drawing trademarked characters. And i see in this case the bubble idea didnt seem to strike that many people as being "cool" haha, and the ridiculous proportions (titanic arms swallowing little hands). They were all my design choices, unfortunately doesn't seem like succesful ones but what can i do.
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April 6th, 2008 #8
Personally, I like the concept Pavel and I think you pulled it off really well. I love new, original takes
on classic characters, and this is definitely unique. He looks powerful and thick as a brick sh!thouse,
which is perfect for Colossus. I've only got three small issues with this one:
(1) I would have liked to have seen a little of the organic effect that you have on his upper torso
replicated on his lower half. Not much, just a few well-placed sections to tie it all together more.
(2) The feet could have used just a tiny bit more work.
(3) I would have liked to have seen the head smaller. It's a little big right now and I think shrinking
it some would have made him look even more massive and been more consistent with his smaller
hands and feet (which I don't mind, by the way).
Overall, I really like it Pavel. Including the paint job, I think it's good work all around.
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April 6th, 2008 #9
Thanks troyboy! I'm glad you understood what i was doing here.
i agree on all 3 points actualy, the legs are inconsistent with the top half, and i should of thought that out more. i am a not big fan of drawing or sculpting feet so i avoid that as much as i can so they could use more work.
the smaller head is a shame, because it really would have gotten my point across and make him look more like a colossus. the whole reason why i made his pose unstandable on his own and added a base with dead cyclops on it is because he looked like a fat midget.
back when i started out he had a small head but the same size arms, it looked hype oh man, i wish i had magic powers and could shrink the head like a digital 3d model.
i added bronze because i thought the uniform colour was boring. il put up shots tommorow, check back.
April 6th, 2008 #10
They are not muscles haha, i'm telling you guys.
this wasn't leanardo da vinci's anatomical study, this is a sci-fi alien robot with a strange bubble texture haha
Last edited by Pavel Sokov; April 6th, 2008 at 06:21 PM.
April 6th, 2008 #11
Edit: ok im guilty of having not read your disclaimer at the top forgive me. Now after having read throug the whole thread thus far I still feel as though the visual gimmic that has been employed to give him some authentisity is still meshing as akward anatomy. One thing that you should always remember and this is something that was always mentioned in each and every design and fine art class i have taken in my education is that if you have to spell it out or explain it to us then it isnt working. If you new that there was 80% chance that this would have been percieved as bad anatomy then I would have hit the drawing board working on ways of achieving my visual intent with out making that perception so obvious.One side note: not sure your a double dragon fan but your characters face has a real resemblence to abobo one of the thug enemies
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April 6th, 2008 #13
What you described is the actual colossus character, and when I remake a character i like to remake the origin and backstory as well. this one is an alien built robot. (I'm aware that's not colossus at all, but I wanted to interpret him as an engineered being, rather then a born one)