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    big dl [23/4/12]-\ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ /-

    hello

    The latest things are on the last page of course. I removed the old art in this post because it gets in the way when changing thread thumbnail.

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    Hey there nikce hand studies and first image is really cool can't really say much until you update more although your other painting were pretty nice but need to see some more work good luck

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    Advice I was given - Do three studies from ref, fast. Then do those same three without looking at the ref, or the ones you just drew. Do this until you can do it perfectly. Then move on.

    Nice start, put some more up!

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    I studied from Brigman a little. Sorry about the blurryness on these, and the brown.
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    First three from reference.
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    Second three without it. I feel happy with the third one.
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    Here's another, 'from reference'. It was supposed to be from reference, but I sort of forgot about it, drawing from memory in some places. I remembered it sometimes, but the result isn't good. You experts will be able to point out where I was focused though, I'm sure.

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    I thought it would improve as I went on, but it just got worse and the results are too bad to post.

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    Hey Max

    Good to see you've finally started an SB.

    You will learn a lot by doing regular hand studies.
    Personally, I've found it much easier to draw hands once I've become familiar with the anatomic and technical details, because the hand is a complex subject.

    Once you get to know these details, all you will need is a reference of teh gesture; the form can be filled in using your knowledge.

    Most importantly, just draw your own hand a lot.
    There's no excuse for an artist to draw bad hands.

    Keep working hard and keep updating.

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    Hey, thanks man.

    I've just been drawing that same Bridgman hand pose, without reference. I kept ending up with the same blocky, non-hand looking thing even when I started in difference places, so I just put fluent lines down (from the top), then drew the rest, and it came out differently. I've mostly been putting down the blocks, getting the form, learning how it works and why those lines are there. I used to be so puzzled by it, but now I'm getting closer to a good understanding.

    The first few pics I posted are my right hand, and I think I should go back to drawing it. Would my skills drawing a left hand suffer? Drawing my left hand holding the pencil in my right would produce some funny stuff.

    It feels so good to have started a sketchbook, helping people in the critique center, and finally working hard. It feels just as good as it is rewarding, especially after all the months of lazyness and Loungewhoring. Sorry about the double post in your SB by the way, I deleted the first one.
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    Nice studies you've got there. And about drawing a left hand: why dont you draw somenone elses left hand?
    keep posting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterKiller_ View Post
    You will learn a lot by doing regular hand studies.

    Most importantly, just draw your own hand a lot.
    Should I upload them here, or just make it a habit and post the best ones?

    There's no excuse for an artist to draw bad hands.
    Have I drawn bad ones so far?


    Evergrey - Hey, thanks.


    Here's two that I know are bad, but I want to talk about them. I drew from my own hand - I was still on the Bridgman hand pose and thought about drawing my own hand to try something different.

    This looks like it's taken from a basic side-on point of view, rather than the more dynamic camera angle like that of the Bridgman pose which I was aiming for. As I got down to the thumb I thought it was far out of place from the other side, far from where it should be. But on reflection, it's not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Still not perfect, of course.
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    This one has a long deformity that reminds me of the original Nosferatu vampire. By the end of this (that's giving up on, not finishing), I realized that it had at least something to do with me focusing on the outline. I read somewhere (in an ImagineFX magazine or somewhere on here) not to imagine the form as an outline.
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    I feel that I get too sucked in when I draw, and should step back frequently to see how it's going, and take a relaxed approach. I also feel that I'm hasty, and should slow down. Do you agree?

    Also, is there a certain standard as to what I should post in my SB?

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    An answer to your recent post on my SB about shading.

    My rendering on that particular piece is not a good example, but no, shadows under normal circumstances do not get darker the further away from the light source.

    http://www.huevaluechroma.com/021.php
    You may see for yourself here.

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    Another Bridgman thing.. can't remember if it was from reference or not.
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    Another draw my own hand pose thing from yesterday. Fugly wrist.
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    Also drawing my own gand. I mean hand. It came out blurry like every one of my ultra-close-up-without-the-right-setting photos do, so I resized it to what seems to be the original size. Small, unlike this paragraph in comparison to the previous three.
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    This one is from a photo. I shouldn't have messed with the arm so much, rendering came out bad.
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    I must be boring you with hand studies, so here's something to mix it up. I can't believe how badly her face came out. Perhaps it's time to start stuying faces. I never could draw them well, and often gave up when I started failing.
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    hey, is this the max i met in auckland a little while ago? i'm tom/fish_cakes/jesus???

    good to see you doing studies just be sure when you are copying bridgeman and stuff that you are trying to understand what the lines are communicating and the form they describe, not just the lines. Always think in three dimensions when you draw.

    Its really good to see you are analyzing your drawings when you see something is wrong. keep it up man, you are definitely on the right track

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    Hey Tom, yeah it's me. I was planning on dropping by your sketchbook a little while ago, then got caught up in things. I've been thinking of setting out a rule for myself when I draw from Bridgman - only copy the line down if I know why it's there. There was one drawing where I put lines down just to copy them, then found out it's the thigh in the background. That's when it came to me, and I'll start from now on.

    I've always struggled with sizes, my drawings keep coming out the same size as the object I'm drawing, I haven't been able to modify the size. Is this normal?

    Thank you so much for the crits Tom, and for stopping by. :)

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    Here's the pose where I realized that line was the thigh.
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    The best of my production from 4 days at the Baltic Sea. There could be more though, I'll have a look in my book.

    I was on the plane on my way over to Rome, and just drew my hand a few times. It's funny how I managed to draw my hand in such a small size.
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    I was at a restaurant and noticed the waiter had an unique nose. Had no paper with me but skin can be drawn on.
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    I couldn't draw it from the front well, which is a pose I struggle with in general.

    Life drawing last night. I saw the toilet paper roll in Dan's sketchbook, and felt inspired to do one. I got involved in my rendering and stopped looking at it for a while, which could have had something to do with how close it is, but I need to open my mind on this. The photo is taken from the position I was drawing it at.
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    I'm finally starting to really enjoy drawing, now I can do it more.
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    Nice studies mate. It's good that you're enjoying the process. Try to get the Andrew Loomis books too to study from and just keep working hard. I'll drop by now and then to see if you're doing your homework.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Challie View Post
    Had no paper with me but skin can be drawn on.
    thats awesome man! props from me for sure

    here's a quick rendering help i knocked up for ya, its not very good...look at dan's link for a better explanation.

    basically to make something "pop", you should try and render the intersection area between the light and shadow the darkest, rather than the inner shadow areas. you did this effectively in some areas such as a bit at the top of the toilet paper roll, and the forms look very nice, but because you made the edge of the paper really dark ( the area where it twists..im not sure what to call it) it killed the effect, you should try and make it 'recede' and make the actual roll which in front 'pop' infront, try blurring that edge line with the background more rather than making it so dark

    the rest I hope you can see from the pic, hope this helps some what...i know the arrows are a bit confusing....talk to me on msn if you don't get it

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    Hallo Max, keep up with your studies, you're improving with every post you make, and that's not an easy thing to do.

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    Toilet roll, haha! I'm starting a trend here.

    Good see you're doing still life studies. You will learn a lot from them.

    As Tom said, you're on the right track, so it's just a matter of keeping with the game.

    Peace out.

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    Sorry about the lack of updates guys! I got so many replies, perhaps it has something to do with me posting all over the place the other day.

    fantasyartist - hello, how did you find me? I downloaded Andrew Loomis books from here, but haven't yet drawn anything from them. Should I start with Drawing the Head and Hands or Fun With a Pencil? Thanks for dropping by and giving me that suggestion!

    paperX - thanks man, I didn't think about the lighting then, but it comes back to me all the time now, and I notice it on objects. Cheers!

    Hey Smoke, I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know, it feels good! At first I needed something to post, now I'm selecting the best of what I've done to show. I hope this improving quickly trend continues. :)

    HunterKiller_ - should I start including one life study in every update? Thanks for explaining life drawing to me on MSN, it helped a lot.
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    This is something from when I was in Rome. I can't believe I forgot to post it last time.
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    More from even earlier.
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    Check out my noobish back knowledge..
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    Just now, life drawing. The keyboard came out badly angled, the mouse too light and with a bad shadow, and the headphones too ordered, all when I thought the proportions were going well. Shading came to mind when I was kind of done with it and sitting in a tense, awkward position. :/
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    It depends what you want to learn. I work back and forth between them. I would suggest to find a good book on perspective too and draw a lot of cubes. It will really pay off later on.

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    hey hey ^^ I just wanted to say one thing about your art. I noticed some of your studies are guys that seem to be made up of squiggles. the more you poractise something, the more you tend to know it, and I personally think this a bad habit to make for being an artist. :s
    I have an idea though, find pictures of like, guys and girls and yeah.. human bodies, as you probs already are doing, and try to copy them as they are exactly, instead of sketching fast, which it LOOKS like you're doing. You don't have to go into full detail, you can just do some outlines even, with a light pencil, just until you get the flow of how everything works. other than that, keep up the great work.
    I hope this helped. ^_^;;

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    Sorry for the lack of updates, I haven't been drawing much either..

    fantasyartist - alright, I'll get one when I get back to New Zealand. I can start drawing cubes now, though. Next update I guess.

    ~AncientWorlds~ - I used to take a very long time with my drawings, and be very tight. But I loosened up, which is very important. However, I have loosened up a little too much. It's not that I should just start taking a long time on everything, but that I should once again learn to be more patient with my sketches. An artist must be able to spend anywhere between 30 seconds and 60 hours on one piece of artwork. I just need to learn both. Thank you.

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    Life Drawings from a while ago actually.
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    This human form study is from one Sammy did in his sketchbook. I liked it, and had fun drawing it.
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    My faces always come out badly, and a lifedrawing thing.
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    This is actually from a while ago.

    My first time seriously drawing the ribcage.
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    Darn. I have to go, will add more later.
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    This from some time ago. If there's any life drawing I would spend 5-10 hours on, it's plastic bags. This would have totalled to 3 hrs at the most, though.
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    This looked good until I messed with the eyes.
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    Life drawing at an airport. He was right across from me, sitting still. I didn't want to catch his attention, so it was made up of glances and looked nothing like him.
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    Crazy design on my flight back.
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    .very persistent, great stuff!
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    Hey Jansi, thanks! I'm not sure about persistence though.
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    This is all older, even from back when I was in Germany.
    Cthulhu fun.
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    This one again.
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    This was inspired by a Beksinski painting that I found in the scary art thread.
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    Various human form bits.
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    Some more.

    The first two were from a few weeks ago when I arrived in NZ, and the last one is a 1.5 hour life drawing from school. The rain didn't do it justice.

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    Hey,

    I like your scratchy ink drawings, they're pretty cool. Good to see you drawing from life as well as the human studies. I would take a look at this Andrew Loomis book, its free to download as a PDF.

    http://www.austinsketchgroup.com/sha...IGURE_draw.pdf

    I think it would help your figure drawing a lot to have a look and make some studies from it. I apologise if the link doesn't work, you might have to paste it into your internet browser

    Keep posting!

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    Mr. Gadbury - I did actually download that book, along with all the others. However, I've only studied a little bit from Drawing the Head & Hands. I'll have to check that one out, thank you!
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    More from my flight back, haha.
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    This is from the first week of school, when we had to do this 'artist's book workshop project thing'.
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    lol hai another update lol

    I've got this sketchbook I need to maintain for school, currently behind and need to have it full by the end of the year. I'll just post pieces from it, mostly excluding the crap.
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    Don't hate, it's bad for you. Trent Reznor said so.
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