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    Grundo's sketchbook (15) - update - abstract pen work.

    starting a new sketchbook with all of my new stuff in it.
    yr 9, been drawing for a long time want to improve and make some kind of career out of it, hopefully graphic design
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    all of my stuff that i thought was worth keeping, lots of stuff...
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    more sketches
    quick little one
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    just filled up a page
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    rock climbing camp, did it in my free time
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    a quick study of a chair and of the towel draped over the arm, with the legs fixed
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    and a model my grandpa made, i did the sketch and the rough floor plan thing from it
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    feel free to crit and comment

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    Hi, Grundo!!

    Your works are nice and diverse with ideas! You have great strength in your pencil lines! I like when you smooth the shading out, like with the shelves and rock climbing camp pictures!

    I notice in some of your studies that distance and proportion of the object's elements are off balanced (like the two "legs" of the chair with the draped towel). A good way to improve on that might be to measure using your pencil! You can dangle your pencil vertically or hold it horiztonally, using its size to grasp the size and distances of your subject. It's also good for looking at angles and sometimes perspective of one object to another.

    In your faces, you need to get a better grasp on where certain elemens of the face sit, and how they connect with other parts. One part of the solution might be that you check up on some anatomy books (Like Loomis, and there are way more) and practice, getting a feel for how the head is constructed. I STILL have to work on that! It's tough! Just copying the face from somewhere is good practice, but when you have to try it from your head...oh, MAN! It's hard for me! Hee hee!

    Anyway, aside from that, just keep going! You're doing good!

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    crits on this, and maybe where the sides of the faces could go? just need some help with faces
    and done from ref

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    so your in year9? that would make you what 14?, and well if you keep your passion for drawing up you will be a fantastic drawer. just keep drawing ALL the time on anything and everything, like jazzw said try some anatomy study. but remember keep drawing ALL the time lol. laterz

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    Hey there, thanks for dropping by in my sb

    You asked crits, so here are a few comments.

    You want to study architecture, you say? I'm doing so myself, great fun It sounded like you wanted to take your drawing into that direction, but let me tell you, I've never particularly practiced drawing houses and such. Environments are obviously good to study, but keep doing the human figure. That's very important. After all, all buildings are made for people. I find it tremendously helpful to know the proportions of the human body and how it works. So by all means keep doing what you're doing, both humans and houses, both are equally important.

    You should focus on studying human anatomy, value and perspective. There seems plenty of room for improvement in those areas, but it's good to see you practice and update regularly. Download the Loomis books: http://acid.noobgrinder.com/Loomis/ and do quick poses from PoseManiacs: http://www.posemaniacs.com/blog/ It's good to do a few of those daily, just to keep the pencil warm. I think you should focus on the Figure Drawing and Heads and Hands books by Loomis. Copy from the books, but not without thinking. Really try to understand what you're drawing.

    Now I suggest you just keep on drawing, drawing and more drawing

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    Hey there nice sketchbook , and your only 15 pretty cool.
    You got alot of different ideas in there it's all looking good and i like the life studies trust me they will really!! pay off .
    Since your having trouble with faces well so am i the best advice i can give right now and something that is really helping me is Start off by drawing skulls lawl loads of skulls in loads of different angles you will really understand why there are pumps and lumps lawl and where everything goes much better study the structure of it.
    Second thing is After you do all the skulls and get a feel of where everything goes do faces from refernce tons study them alot then take a small sketchbook with you every where and draw people on bus station, street, sitting while you walking just almost any where and trust me this will really help you.
    Most importantly just practtttttise practise practise and keep drawing
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    JazzW-thanks and yeah i did it afterwards and fixed it up yeah just practice practice eh thanks again

    hm2k-yep ill do more study from now on thanks heaps

    AsaB-thanks yeah i need to work on the figure and all aspects of the human body im a bit clueless when it comes to human anatomy, and i will keep drawing

    lilnebo-thanks! ill try it out thanks again for the advice

    here are some more drawings

    a bodyboarder, waves fascinate me and i love bodyboarding on, in and around them, im starting to get into drawing them so here's a bodyboarder carving
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    and some mountains with a house and garden amongst them
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    enjoy

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    last one with the rocks is pretty nice man.lilnebo is right study the skull and its later its muscular structure and it should really help.
    I'm finding Andrew loomis pretty useful too(just google him and download the books).THe most enjoyable way to study faces for me seems to be doing referenced portraits.This lets you see how the face is working and also gives you something less rigid as people don't all look the same.

    When your doing those portraits try to focus more on whats there than what you think is there.Naturally we try to fill it in with what we think something looks like but its not accurate usually. the eyes look like a good example,the pupils look way too rounded for the amount of the lid that is down.

    Great stuff for 15,keep working really hard at it.

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    The Curehead- thanks a lot, yer i got his one on faces and hands, its been pretty helpful, but i've been drawing peoples faces on the train, just quick ones, but i think its helping
    thanks again

    will update soon

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    there is already improvement here! Nice. One thing I can tell you to help is loosen up! Your pencil strokes look like you are soooo tense.

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    NARobles - thanks. and about the strokes, ill keep it in mind


    sketches from recently
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    a little goblin man quick, maybe 10-20 min, tried to be pretty loose on this one, crits comments?
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    Hey
    Cool stuff in here mate, really nice to see you tackling Loomis, definitely keep that up, it helps tons. Make sure to draw from life, do more selfportraits (the first one was good btw), once you know enough about the structure of the skull and features. If I were to recommend some books, check out "Constructive Anatomy" by Bridgman and "The Human Figure" by Vanderpoel, both are really cheap and helped me a lot, especially Vanderpoel's explains nioses, eyes, lips very good.
    Keep it up!

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    nice practicing, if you wanna loosen up, u have to force yourself to draw as fast as possible(that's at least what I do sometimes) or draw your silhouette in 1 line, without stopping, it really helps

    grtz and keep on practicing

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    hey dude i like you motivation in here, i need some of whatever your having keep it up and as always practice.

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    i decided to try some watercolour paints. the one with rocks is from ref, and the other is from my head.
    they are both around half an A4 in size each
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    more sketches
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    new sketch of a friend skating....he's pretty damn good
    took about 1 hour all up (or like 3 hrs that were very interrupted)

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    I have started a 5 day stencil/graffiti art course kinda thing through school, we have jamin an amazing graffiti artist showing us the ropes

    so there isnt much art now but will be later when i get my hands on my scanner again.

    only one for now...whipped it up will probably turn it into a stencil piece, was A3 so took it with a digital camera sorry about the shitty quailty, is an idea for a stencil so it's quick and not great, but i like the quirkiness of it so i thought id post it
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    catch

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    Hey there. You have some good stuff in here, I especially like your environments and the sketch of your skateboarding buddy. Looking forward to updates!

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    papers.
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    need to draw more.
    stencil work coming from that week of graffiti art.

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    At Last the Stencil Work.

    original. from sketch to stencil on A4
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    idea from a sketch a while back ^ original
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    Ryan hardy from a magazine.
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    and a cutout. done with coloured paper, then glued down.
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    nice updates, the stencils and the lil monster-doodles are great
    keep practicing anatmoy and faces, maybe force yourself to focus on it a while, it will improve your knowledge about it and also the way you draw and look at things
    keep it up

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    Grafguy - thanks man. yeah will do, just kinda getting into stencils haha. i'll do more study one day.


    papers.

    stencil i have made and sprayed.
    this is an A4 and the original idea, the stencil is an A3 for a T-shirt.
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    And just some more ideas for stencils. I'm gonna keep the light bulb head going, i like him.
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    mez - thanks mate. accidentally skipped your reply, i was in a rush.

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    Hey, grundy, great sketches! I really like the creatures and the ink tentacle things (which makes me think of some kind of monster from the deep or a demon or Cthulhu or something of that nature).


    Since you need help with faces, I can try to give some tips. Before I go on, these are just general measurements for the average person. A lot of people will have different measurements because everyone's different; bigger nose, larger forehead, etc. I attached some references pics to this post to help explain my points better. The heads were drawn by my professor, since I'm running a little short on time. So here we go!

    • The head's a big egg-like oval with the wider part of the oval on top and the thinner part on the bottom.
    • If you cut the oval in half vertically and cut it in half horizontally, half of the horizontal measurement should be equal to 1/3 of the vertical measurement. I know that was a long and odd sentence, so let me try to rephrase. Half of the head's width can be measured three times to get the height.
    • Half of the head's height is the eye line, where the center of the eyes line up.
    • You can divide the eye line into five equal sections to get the eye placement. So basically there's an eye length between the two eyes and an eye length on the side of each eye.
    • Halfway between the eye line and the top of the head is the hair line, where hair starts growing.
    • Halfway between the eye line and the bottom of the chin is the nose line, where the bottom of the nose is.
    • Halfway between the eye line and the nose line is the zygomatic, a bone that has something to do with your cheeks and that I know nothing about lol.
    • Halfway between the zygomatic and the bottom of the chin is where the top of the lip is.
    • Halfway between the nose line and the bottom of the chin is where the bottom of the lip is.
    • 1/3 of the way between the nose and the bottom of the chin is the center lip, where the lips meet.
    • 2/3 of the way between the nose and the bottom of the chin is the where the chin box starts.
    • The eye socket can be found by drawing the length of the eye down the center of each eye placement and making a circle around it. Or uh, you can make a circle around the eye length, and make sure the diameter of the circle is the length of an eye.
    • You can find out where the center lip ends by drawing a line straight down from the center of each eye socket.
    • Draw a line from where the hair line and the side of the head meet down to where the corner of the chin box is (of the same side) to get the side plane. The side plane is where shading starts during certain lighting.
    • The ear starts at the eye line and ends at the nose line.


    And now for some eye measurements!
    1. When an eye is open, the highest and lowest point that you can see of the eye itself is at 1/3 intervals, not down the center of the eye. So to get this, divide the eye into three equal lengths.
    2. Then place two dots where you want the highest and lowest points to be. The placement is totally up to you, since the eye will look different as it does different things (opened wide, squints, etc.) and since different people have different eyes.
    3. Connect the dots from the corner of each eye to the dot.
    4. After connecting the dots, round out the jagged corners.
    5. Now draw in the iris. Its size varies but it'll usually be slightly wider than 1/3 of the length of the eye.
    6. Finally draw in the pupil at the center of the iris.
    7. Don't forget to draw in the corner of the eye and give some kind of light reflection. Without those, the eye just looks weird. And without the light reflection, it makes the person look dead. Zombies, man, they creep me out.

    If you want an in-depth eye tutorial that will make your face melt, check this out: http://www.furiae.com/popup.php?text=eyetutorial

    I probably missed something, and maybe left out a lot of detail that you may have wanted more info on, but that seems like more than enough to chew on for a while. Hopefully I got everything right and I hope it helps!

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    Mark Badoy - wow.
    i'm so amazed at the effort you put into helping me out.
    thanks lots. i'll use it heaps no doubt and learn from it.
    thanks again.

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    paper stuff. i'm working on using gimp, i find digital painting really hard.

    done on a bus trip.
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    bored sketch, i know i just filled it in with tone and not enough detail, but it was a good time waster.
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