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    Cow A wonderful book: Die Gestalt des Menschen by Gottfried Bammes

    A wonderful anatomy book: Die Gestalt des Menschen by Gottfried Bammes

    I could only hope it has english version....

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    As far as I know it exists only in German. There is the big book (don't know the exact name), and some of its sections are available as smaller independent and topic focused books if I remember correctly.

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    yepp. costs 70 bucks over here but it's definitely worth each and every cent. Probably the best book on anatomy (for the artist) you can get nowadays!
    The pictures are explaining themselves as in any good anatomybook, though the texts include a ton of information that can't be shown in pictures. Unfortunately this book has not been translated (yet) but some smaller ones have, so get these. bammes is always worth it

    http://www.amazon.com/Artists-Guide-...4123262&sr=8-1

    and some animal anatomy. kicks ass as well

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    Wow, I have been trying to get this book. It was recommended from one of the instructors of the workshop and I have been looking for it since. Even if it is in german, I heard that the drawings and plates are worth it. Only thing is that so far I found it for around $140 in Amazon(USA), and for about 79 euros in german amazon, somewhat expensive Still looks like a great book to get.

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    Does anyone know if this book is in pdf format, or is it still in copyright?

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    hmmm i smell copyright violation and piracy........and the admins coming nearer
    As cool as this might be, I'm not sure if this thread should stay alive...


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    Judging from your comment, i'm guessing the book is still in print, but that doesn't make sense 'cause all i see on sites are used copies

    Is the book still in print or what? Could someone please answer this?

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    The book ist still in print ... There was a cheaper version some years ago by the german publisher 2001 (Zweitausendeins) who sold it for 25 Euro. I got this one myself but maybe it´s possible to get this as a used book somewhere.

    Definitely my favourite anatomy book - alone the masses of photos of people of all ages and conditions are something you won´t find today easily.

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    I bought this book without even knowing german! Its awesome!

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    You don't need to know how to speak German to appreciate what this book has to offer. This is one of the best books on anatomy available; probably one of my most valuable purchases as an artist.

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    First saw it at the Sketchmeet last month I think, and then our Drawing teacher recommended another one of Bammes' books (Menschen Zeichnen - Drawing Humans), so I think I'll give it a go. I saw it in a library and gotta say it's pretty damn big. Full of photos and sketches. If you can, get it.

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    Alright, the book arrived today (I Amazon). Pretty sure this will be my book concerning anatomy. Bammes seems to combine all good resources from earlier eras, lending from former masters, from Da Vinci to Hogarth. There's a downside though. The text is very scholastic and even though I'm well trained in grammar, reading a sentence in the book is a pain. No wonder it hasn't been translated yet. Even the captions are overly complicated.

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    thanks so much for the post!

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    This looks like it has the philosophies of Bridgeman, but in a more real world explanation.

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    Jabo, did you read the introduction? Bammes heartily hates Loomis and disregards Hogarth as the synthesis of the "Muscle man"

    Regarding Bridgman Bammes is much more scientific - I use Bridgman when thinking about rythm and Bammes when thinking about technics ...

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    I think Jabo was referring to the 18th century Hogarth

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    Are you guys saying Hogarth was a hack?......not that I'm a fan. Basically, I'm saying that to make certain I buy the best books, meaning I might want to avoid Hogarth books....even though I have a few, and hardly crak them open....due to repulsion. Not my taste.

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    I was meaning Hogarth as in "Some Hogarth studies, I can't draw!" from the Sketchbook section No, I didn't read the intro yet. Well, screw me, What I was trying to say that the book is more of a collection of other studies, interconnected with each other by Bammes to help understand it all a little better. Rather universal if you ask me. Still confused by all those vintage reference photos, the hair styles especially

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    Hehe, I really love this pictures - maybe because they are even older than me. But the technique he used photographing the naked bodies with graphite powder is imo really helpful. And some of the models (the old athlete and the dancer) are really great.

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    I can speak some German, so if anyone wants something translated, I can probably help you out

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    It´s great that you want to help out but be careful. This book is highly technical. Even for germans it´s no easy read at all.

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    Yeah I figure that I'll probably have to break out the English-German dictionary on this one haha. But I think I can piece together enough familiar words to make sense of it, so feel free to send me anything ya want translated and I'll do the best I can

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    Haha, 6 years of German in high school and junior high suddenly comes in handy! thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fipse View Post
    It´s great that you want to help out but be careful. This book is highly technical. Even for germans it´s no easy read at all.

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    Yeah, Mrs Flake speaks conversational German as a second language, she struggled with this.

    I'm thinking it's like Harold Speed- if it's not your native language forget it, the subtleties of text will be lost on you.

    Get whatyou can from the pictures. (Great pictures I thought..)

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    wowzers, this is amazing. Will surely complement my Bridgeman studies, thanks so much for taking the time for this.

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    cheers for this post aleica.As soon as i saw these pictures i knew i had to get this book.It's just arrived and i'm simply just astonished how good this book is even though i can't understand a word of German.I have all the usual suspects Richer,loomis,Peck,Bridgman,Vanderpoel etc etc,but i now wish that i bought this sooner.This book is expensive for a reason,and if money is no object you really need to get this book like ... now!.No.1 for anatomy.

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    Wow, this looks like a must-have! I will pick up a copy tomorrow.

    For those of you who are struggling with the German language, don't hesitate to ask me anything you want to know, I'm a native speaker.

    There is also an excellent web dictionary you might find useful: http://dict.leo.org/
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    Which year is the version with the slipcover from? Is that the 1997 one? My teacher showed me this a while back and I've been trying to locate her version incessantly. The thing has been reprinted like 5 times and I'm not sure which one was hers but it was really nice.

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