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    Blarrghhh!!! updated

    Hi, my name is Jon Sun, and I am currently studying art (concentrating in painting and drawing) at Wheaton College in Illinois. I started drawing around 2 years ago, started painting last semester, and became an art major last semester as well. So, I guess I'm kind of new at this. I'm learning a lot, and I'm trying to improve as quickly as I can. Looking back at all I've done, it's kind of encouraging and discouraging how much and how little I've improved. Anyway, here's my sketchbook. I'm open to any crits or suggestions anyone has. I don't really know what I'm doing, so anything is helpful.

    cheers,

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    keep going

    Thanks for commenting on my work.

    I, too, am trying to learn anatomy so I can draw the figure accurately from my head and not rely on ref so much. You should do the same. When you draw from ref your stuff looks nice, but you need something to guide you. Keep at it! I'm glad you've posted your stuff.

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    Your body poses and anatomy are looking good. Check those heads in the 2nd 3rd and 4th pictures though, some of the proportions are wonky - remember to look at references for the heads too! Love the bone studies, looking forward to see how you progress. Oh, and welcome to CA!

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    Good to see another lurker like myself come out of hiding. You got a good start here in that you have been drawing a lot. Time to start doing some anatomy studies. Your clavicle/scapula study turned out really nice. Try and do some more drawings like that where you are really studying the form of the body and the underlying structure. You have some nice pose maniacs gesture drawings. The heads near the top of your post could use some work... doing some skull/head studies would be of great benefit to you.
    Keep up the hard work and good luck.

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    skull study and gestures

    wow, thanks for the replies guys, I didn't think anyone would respond.

    Snubbed:: yeah, I also want to be able to draw the figure from memory. right now, i'm doing a lot of stuff from ref cause i feel i can learn faster this way than if i did a lot of stuff from memory. maybe i'm wrong though. also, what did you mean by "something to guide me"?

    Farsh:: thanks man! and yeah, I can see how the heads are a bit off now. I did some loomis heads and i found i have a lot of trouble placing them in perspective... XD

    Aphex:: thanks! i'm trying to do a lot of studies and such, but i don't really know how to go about it. as of now, all i do is just copy the picture, and it seems like i should be doing something more, but i don't know what. do you have any suggestions?

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    as suggested, I did some skull studies. third one's a bit off, but ah well.
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    and I also did a few more gestures from posemaniacs. i find i have a lot of trouble with gestures. it seems like my gestures are so sketchy and messy. does anyone know how i can improve my stroke accuracy/efficiency? i'm trying to work on capturing the movement but also keeping the drawing accurate.
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    and lastly, here's an OC collab I did with a friend. we didn't have time to finish it...
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    any suggestions or crits would be greatly appreciated. thanks for looking.

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    I envy your skull study, so far I am trying to do the same; it is a good start for drawing realistic or just decent human faces.

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    Your skull sketches are great! It really shows the angularity, but still keeps it smooth.

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    Your anatomy studies are looking great just keep on doing them. However when doing loads of study of anatomy it is easy to loose the fluidness of character and and get stiff looking characters. Which is why we practice gestures. I know there are alot of schools of how you should do gestures some prefer scribbly form building exercises and these are great. But when watching your work I feel you are suffering abit fromt he scribbly line disease. I would recomend trying to do your gestures using long flowing lines with only like 3-4 lines per gesture but lines that flow with the natural flow of the body. Actually I should do that myself too :/

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    Posemaniac rocks! I'm doing the 60 second poses most of the time.
    For seeing and capturing lines as quickly as possible, I have found it extremely useful to copy old master drawings, and to make drawings after old master artwork. Not so much to learn about anatomy, but to train your accuracy. The more you do of those, the faster and more accurate you will be able to see things, including Posemaniac poses.

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    Nice sketchbook , i see you studied lots of poses , but you have problems with the lines you look like you don't know where to ad the hard edges and the soft edges , usually hard edges come out when you what to bring something towards you , to make it pop up , and the darkest darks (in drawing are usually used) and details are usually where you want to point the attention of the viewer. This is kinda all that i can help you with for now . Oh and try to draw live models , it helps more than you imagine , specially for the values. Cheers !

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    pelvis and bridgman studies

    doktorno:: XD thanks!! that study helped a bit, but i still have some trouble with faces. haha, maybe i should do more.

    thebadkitty:: thanks!

    eux:: yeah, i need to work on my gestures. i definitely suffer from scribbly line disease. i'm working on those long flowy lines.

    maidith:: cheaaa, posemaniacs. and old master drawings?? oOooo, sounds like a good idea. where do you get your refs and which masters would you suggest?

    flamable:: thanks, i will keep that in mind, it helps a lot.


    for this time, i did a pelvis study. front and side view. i think i'm going to try to include at least one study per post.
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    bridgman torso studies. errr, rather wimpy ones.
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    here's some color stuff. my coloring is a bit shotty, so crit my face off. haha, any suggestions or help would be very much appreciated/needed.
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    oh, and these were both done in painter.

    and i figured you were all probably sick of the posemaniacs gestures, so i didn't include them this time but i did a few pages...

    thanks for visiting!

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    Couple of Illustrations

    Wow, I haven't updated in a long time. I've been so busy. Anyway, here are a couple of illustrations I'm doing for my English final. Crits would be much appreciated.

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    Here's one for Sir Gawain and the Green Knight.
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    I have some other work that I still haven't scanned. I'll probably post them up soon.

    Thanks for watching.

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    figure drawing class dump *BIG DUMP*

    I took a figure drawing class last semester and I've never had a chance to post any of my work. Here are a few selected works from everything that I did.

    Sorry for the awful photos, I promise they look better in real life.

    To start, here is a 4 day long charcoal study on white paper. This one kinda got ruined by storage.
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    Next, a 6 day long charcoal and white chalk study on toned paper. This one got ruined too.
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    here are some gestures.
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    here are some anatomy studies done with tracing paper.
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    finally, here is a memory drawing (looked at model and made notes for 15 minutes, drew for 5, etc.)
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    Again, sorry for the terrible photos. They really are pretty bad.

    Any crits or comments would be appreciated. Thanks.

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    Looking in here quickly. There's lots of good stuff here, you're obviously working hard.

    I hope you'll forgive me if I "cut to the chase" as I'm tight on time here today - looking at your two images in post #12, your perspectives are off. The table appears to be sloping off into the floor in the first, and the horse is being looked at from a lower point of view than the floor is, in the second. A bit of time spent doing more formal horizon lines and vanishing points would pay off for you. I can't do illustrative paintovers right now, but if you need more help with that, I could do so at the weekend.


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    big dump udate

    OK, I haven't updated in a longggg time, so here we go.

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    figures, posemaniacs (30,30,90)
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    and... i have no idea...
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    Crits and comments always welcome.

    Also, I am currently in the process of switching to an art major and I'm taking a couple of painting classes, which I'm really excited about. Today, I painted with oils for the first time in my life and I suuccckkkkkkkeeedd. So if any of you have any tips or suggestions for a beginner, that would be much appreciated. I'll probably be posting the progress of those classes as I go.

    Cheers.

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    First Painting Ever!

    So this is my first oil painting ever. It was fun working with the paint, but it was frustrating at times. Hopefully I'll get a lot better.

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    16x20 Canvas

    I apologize about the photo quality as it is absolutely terrible. Does anyone have any tips on taking pictures of paintings?

    And any crits, tips, or comments are always welcome.

    Cheers.

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    Bridgman Cube Heads

    Here are some cube construction head studies from Bridgman.

    2 Point perspective at eye level
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    Ehh, the second one is a bit off, but other than that, these helped me understand the construction of heads a lot better.

    Crits and comments welcome.

    Cheers.

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    Joe and Impressionist Still life

    Here is another portrait from class. I think I did better with this one, except the eyes are too far apart and it doesn't look like him. And, the photos still suck, and the colors are off. =/

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    And here is an impressionist still life for my other painting class. The photo is terrible again and the colors are off. The colors are a lot more vivid in real life, I promise.

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    Crits and comments are very welcome, and thanks for visiting.

    Cheers.

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    Here's a quick sketch I did as an idea for a painting. Probably won't use it though.

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    Crits and comments welcome, as always.

    Cheers.

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    New Portrait and Eakins Master Copy

    Here's a new portrait from class.
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    Sorry about photo quality again, I really need to start taking better photos. I had finished another still life, but the photo is terrible, so I'm gonna take new photos.

    Also, here is a Thomas Eakins master copy.
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    Crits and comments are welcome, and thanks for visiting.

    Cheers.

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    Painting Dump

    I haven't updated in a few weeks, so here are some paintings from class.

    Gestural Still Life
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    Glazing Project on Gesso Board. This was really frustrating.
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    Here is a cast drawing (painting?) done on shellacked paper. Sorry for the glare.
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    This is Richard. Sorry for the blurriness.
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    Here are a couple of paintings I did which were supposed to be on the "Implications of Impressionism". I didn't really understand what my teacher wanted, and it was quite frustrating, cause he wanted me to do something abstract. So this is what I came up with.
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    Oh, and I was supposed to be "in dialogue" with Degas.

    And lastly, here is some progress of a painting we just started. Say hi to Heather.
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    Again, sorry for the bad photos. I need to get a tripod or something.

    Any crits or comments are very welcome. Cheers.

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    Portraits!

    Here are a bunch of portraits I've been doing for class.

    Here's Heather. I posted this in the critique center a while ago. You can see the progress here: http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=140953
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    This is one I'm working on now. I have one final session with this model tomorrow. This one's also in the critique center right now: http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=142229
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    This is a random Photoshop Doodle I did.
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    This is a copy of a Thomas Eakins self portrait.
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    This is my friend watching tv.
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    This is me.
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    Last edited by Jon Sun; November 24th, 2008 at 07:46 PM.
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    More Paintings

    Here's some more assorted stuff.

    Here's a random sketchpage I did.
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    Here's the final progress of the portrait I was working on in class.
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    And here's a cubist painting I'm doing for class.
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    Cheers.

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    Self Portrait

    Here's a Self-Portrait idea. It's just a quick sketch...

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    i really like the oils , dude.
    experiment with different mediums, and see what happens
    do you love oil or what xD

    nice work !

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    New portrait, Synthetic Cubist, Hopper painting, and rebuffed old paintings.

    Here is a new portrait from class.
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    Here is a synthetic cubist painting from class.
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    Here is a Hopper study from class.
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    I'm an idiot... The whole time I've been posting my paintings, I never edited the photos, which is why they looked terrible. I just discovered auto-levels in photoshop and it makes my photos look 10x better. I don't know how to adjust them manually, and know almost nothing about photo-editing, haha...

    So, I went back to all my photos and retouched them, and here they are. Sorry for the repost, but they look a LOT better.

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    pencils and digis

    Oops, forgot to include these in the last post. Here are some pencils and digis I did.

    Self Portrait
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    I'm awful at digis, and especially environments... any crits would be helpful. Thanks.

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    Here is a random sample of recent stuff I've done.

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    Great effort on your studies. Like the muscle lay-ins over the figures. Good way to begin to understand what's going on under the skin. Keep up this excellent approach to study. You keep up the work, you WILL get better.

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