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    the end of freedom as we know it

    watch this. I'm really convinced of this.
    this really could end the world as we know it.
    watch the whole thing if you actually care.
    http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

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    also watch this movie
    it's a free online documentary.
    http://zeitgeistmovie.com/
    it shows how the government is more secret then we think.

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    I've watched a few videos like this one, and read a variety of articles. Scary shit.

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    it is scary.
    But very believable.
    The government is powerful. They want money they WANT POWER.
    what is to stop them.
    AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE STUPID WE HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED , by t.v , radio, newspapers. they want use to get distracted with celebrity gossip , mindless t.v shows. FREAKSHOWS to keep us occupied , while the people behind the curtains plan to gain full power.

    "We are not told , what we are suppose to know."

    everything is a lie.
    Everything you hear , say to your self "I will question this , i will not believe it just because they tell me too."

    there is no one to trust.

    They don't care about lives , the wars , the "attacks" are examples of the lives they don't care about. diversions to make us think there is a enemy.
    our stupidity is our enemy. until they get full control of "US" until there is no free thought. you follow what they say.

    until we finally kill off the human race. which saddely is better than what we have now.

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    God, shut up...
    There's already a thread for this anyways.



    edit // aesir said what I was trying to say word for word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxzxczx_me View Post
    it is scary.
    But very believable.
    The government is powerful. They want money they WANT POWER.
    what is to stop them.
    AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE STUPID WE HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED , by t.v , radio, newspapers. they want use to get distracted with celebrity gossip , mindless t.v shows. FREAKSHOWS to keep us occupied , while the people behind the curtains plan to gain full power.

    "We are not told , what we are suppose to know."

    everything is a lie.
    Everything you hear , say to your self "I will question this , i will not believe it just because they tell me too."

    there is no one to trust.

    They don't care about lives , the wars , the "attacks" are examples of the lives they don't care about. diversions to make us think there is a enemy.
    our stupidity is our enemy. until they get full control of "US" until there is no free thought. you follow what they say.

    until we finally kill off the human race. which saddely is better than what we have now.

    I hope that you dont actually think you're helping your cause. All you're doing is making yourself, and the people you support look like crazy paranoid schizo conspiracy theorists. If you want to convince reasonable people that your cause is anywhere near worthwhile, then you have to speak reasonably.

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    good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxzxczx_me View Post
    Everything you hear , say to your self "I will question this , i will not believe it just because they tell me too."
    Unless somebody on the internet made a video about it, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0kelvin View Post
    Unless somebody on the internet made a video about it, of course.
    never question Leeroy Jenkins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0kelvin View Post
    Unless somebody on the internet made a video about it, of course.
    Agreed

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    Am I the only one who sees this might be a good thing? Or no, is not that I see it as good or bad, its that I dont give a fuck. I tried watching the video, and it was basically calling us all dumbasses for watching a bit of TV. I hate celebrities, I buy what I like, whether or not its in trends, and I eat whatever, no matter what. But yet, still not doing all the things it says makes us blind......I still dont see any of this shit starting up. Hmm, I wonder why. Oh yeah. BECAUSE ITS NOT! Wait...I do watch american idol......SHIT! NO WONDER IM BLIND! AHHHHH!!!!!

    Seriously though, quit with the conspiracy crap, unless there is viable proof, and not a paranoid skitz talking shit on YOUTUBE!! Unless you want to get paranoid about the law that tried passing in Mississippi, that would ban fat people from eating in restaurants. That got torn up and wont happen now, but have fun, it might still be happening because we watch TV!! *dun dun dunnnn*

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    The Sky Is Falling! The Sky Is Falling! The Sky Is Falling!

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    Oh noes! RUN!!!!

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    *sigh* why cant this country be more like the movie Hackers?

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    I always find it amusing that the same people can trash the government for being idiots, but then accuse them of having the most sophisticated devious plots...

    It's one or the other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua Fountain View Post
    I always find it amusing that the same people can trash the government for being idiots, but then accuse them of having the most sophisticated devious plots...

    It's one or the other people.

    Yeah, COME ON!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aesir View Post
    I hope that you dont actually think you're helping your cause. All you're doing is making yourself, and the people you support look like crazy paranoid schizo conspiracy theorists. If you want to convince reasonable people that your cause is anywhere near worthwhile, then you have to speak reasonably.
    I like the idea of reasonable talk, instead of screaming doom. Where's this other thread? I wanna read it.

    *goes off in search of other thread*

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0kelvin View Post
    Unless somebody on the internet made a video about it, of course.
    Thank you. If I had a dime for every one I've seen (in real life and on the internet) who watched zeitgeist and ironically took this new information as truth, I'd shove that dime into their mouths and tell them to go do some research before supporting it as fact.

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    I do not believe the goverment is trying to destroy the world, I do not believe "judgment day" is coming any time soon. (though nuclear weaponry makes it possible) I do believe that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I know that goverment is capable of doing terrible things (genocide). People need to be educated to the point where the goverment can't get away with whatever it wants. Democracy is so genius that, when applied correctly, life for the masses becomes very livable. We need to keep it this way.

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    AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE STUPID WE HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED , by t.v , radio, newspapers. they want use to get distracted with celebrity gossip , mindless t.v shows. FREAKSHOWS to keep us occupied , while the people behind the curtains plan to gain full power.
    Its true, Trust me guys, turn off your TVs, I haven't had it in a whole year now, and I don't miss it.

    I'm still proud to be an american, but I have to watch out, and not get "Americalized" like my fellow americans, and I'll be fine.

    edit: be nobodys fool

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    Im getting fucking tired of hearing rants like that. I watch TV, I eat food thats not healthy, I smoke, drink, have sex, and you know what? Im not some retarded fucktard who cant tell whats going on in this world. I can still watch TV and not become an "americanized" zombie. Just because you do the things I do, it doesnt make you any less of a human then the person who sips tea, does yoga, eats no meat, and has no TV.

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    I dont think no TV period is good. I mean, there is a huge amount of crap on TV nowadays, but when you look at shows like Planet Earth, shows that expand your veiws on the world around you, it can give you a whole new outlook on life. And dont forget about the shows and movies with artistic merit to them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aesir View Post
    I hope that you dont actually think you're helping your cause. All you're doing is making yourself, and the people you support look like crazy paranoid schizo conspiracy theorists. If you want to convince reasonable people that your cause is anywhere near worthwhile, then you have to speak reasonably.
    well put.

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    Look out out!!! It's Global Warming! Ruuuuuuuuuuuuun!

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    every one jumped on xxzxczx_me's post

    but id like to see somone who feels its not valid, disect it.
    rather than just saying is nonsense.

    it seems to me to be completely composed of mainstream opinions... hardly a marginal "crazy" series of paranoid rants it is accused of being.


    "Originally Posted by xxzxczx_me


    1. The government is powerful? (this is obviously the case)

    2. They want money they WANT POWER? ( this at least is the mainstream view)

    3. what is to stop them? (also the popular conception)

    4. AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE STUPID? (subjective... but educational opportunities notwithstanding, americans are the most insular and willfully ignorant of realities outside of their immediate surroundings, of any 1st world culture. this is again the mainstream view.)

    5. WE HAVE BEEN, BRAINWASHED , by t.v , radio, newspapers?
    (Brainwashed is a difficult word to define here....but most would agree the media routinely manipulates information based on all sorts of criteria other than journalistic integrity.)

    5a. They want use to get distracted with celebrity gossip , mindless t.v shows. FREAKSHOWS to keep us occupied. (see above, as well as the pure profit motive.)

    6. ...while the people behind the curtains plan to gain full power? (who's gonna argue this one? )

    7."We are not told , what we are suppose to know." (where you?...my public education history repeated the war of independence from 1st grade to 6th!....highschool history never reached vietnam....and this was one of the highest rated public schools in the nation....and i doubt my experience was unique.)

    8. everything is a lie. ( i take this as an exaggeration , its clearly not literal
    or the statement itself would be a lie.

    9.Everything you hear , say to your self "I will question this , i will not believe it just because they tell me too." ( do you disagree with this if so this proves #4 and #5. )

    10. there is no one to trust. (yer mom perhaps, but governmentally?)

    11. They don't care about lives , the wars , the "attacks" are examples of the lives they don't care about. diversions to make us think there is a enemy.

    (this is currently a bipartisan mainstream popular american view
    { admittedly only recently }...the current war is seen by most as a non-sequetor ... serving at the very least, agendas as yet undisclosed.)


    12. our stupidity is our enemy. (shit, if its your friend you have a problem and need a helmet)

    13. until they get full control of "US" until there is no free thought. you follow what they say.

    >i believe the author actually meant: "until they get full control of "US", at which point there will be no free thought. you'll follow what they say. (history is filled with times and places , where exactly this has occurred...to the extent that provisions to prevent this are strewn thought all our country's founding documents.)

    14. until we finally kill off the human race. which saddely is better than what we have now. this statement is clearly emotional and not literal...i belive its over emotionalism and drama can be excused to a degree if you hold #s 1-13 as true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfwalls View Post
    Look out out!!! It's Global Warming! Ruuuuuuuuuuuuun!
    you know something the ENTIRE global scientific community doesn't?
    if so i think the world needs you more in the sciences than it does in concept art.

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    I always sit on the fence about this sort of stuff rather than take an overly strong stance either way. It's like religion. You just never know

    One thing I did respond to in Zeitgeist, though, was the overt emphasis on entertainment today, that they talk about. I'm of the opinion that it is rather too distracting from more important issues that go on around us. And I think it's critical to evaluate that assessment on the whole rather than any one individual. In todays world, what the 'masses' think seems much more important that what a single individual thinks. Not that that hasn't necessarily been the case throughout history, but I think it's even more pronounced today in this 'smaller' world we live in. That's where and when too much distraction can become dangerous.

    But as I say, that's just an opinion.

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