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    Are there ways of motivating yourself to work really hard?

    I noticed that I sometimes go on a rampage with training my art skills for like a week straight and then I suddenly do a drop where I become lazy and just surf the web messing around for a week. I know this is not good and I was wondering how does everyone continue to work really hard all the time and everyday? What keeps you motivated the whole time? Do you ever feel like your spending so much time training your art that you start to stop watching your films, playing your games and reading your comics?

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    Usually looking at other people's work is motivation enough for me.
    Though lately I haven't been motivated at all. I haven't drawn anything in 4 months.

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    Develop severe perfectionism, you'll be motivated by your own neurosis. Also, set goals and allocate time to work everyday, if only for an hour. Having a habit to sit down and work everyday makes it easier to get through the dry spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tn100 View Post
    I noticed that I sometimes go on a rampage with training my art skills for like a week straight and then I suddenly do a drop where I become lazy and just surf the web messing around for a week.
    This is why I don't think it's a good idea to go on these 'rampages'. I mean they're good, I do it, and I think most others do too.

    The thing is, I think it's better in the long run to keep things consistent.
    Of course it's awesome if you could draw all day and do it everyday of the year, but let's be realistic here.
    Keep a schedule, make some plans, don't 'burn yourself out' in one go.
    Do a satisfactory amount of drawing a day and go do something else, but you need to keep this up, do it everyday!

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    I try to imagine how would my art look like after two years of hard work. I'm blown away by completely professional level and I start to believe that after few lines sketched on paper it's already happening. I am few seconds closer.

    I think it's better in the long run to keep things consistent
    Even better would be to keep consistent rampage .

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    I'm not sure if it works for everyone, but I like to dwell on morbid thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tn100 View Post
    I noticed that I sometimes go on a rampage with training my art skills for like a week straight and then I suddenly do a drop where I become lazy and just surf the web messing around for a week. I know this is not good and I was wondering how does everyone continue to work really hard all the time and everyday? What keeps you motivated the whole time? Do you ever feel like your spending so much time training your art that you start to stop watching your films, playing your games and reading your comics?

    for me its real easy don't work don't make money, no money no food no place to live become homeless....

    set a schedule force yourself to work during that time, disconnect the net...
    problem solved.

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    you have it backwards.

    you don't work really hard AFTER you have found the motivations.

    Think of how easy it is to stay motivated when the creativity is flowing. Do you really need anything else to motivate you when you wake up, sit at the computer or in front of the sketchbook and feel really creative? No you don't.

    The process of channeling that creativity is almost all of the time based upon the concept of WORK. If you sit around waiting until you are creative to do something then you will hardly get anything done.

    Just start working. Even if you don't want to, even if you aren't motivated to, even if you don't feel it. This may even happen most of the time. The process of work at some point will eventually break you into your creative mode.

    There have been countless times when I wasn't "feelin' it" but I just started to work. I began by clicking on the Photoshop icon and just started designing something. I didn't look at other people's work because it caused me to compare. It reminded me of how shitty my current design was and once again reminded me of just how much I wasn't "feelin' it". I didn't put on a good movie for "inspiration" and I didn't check my email or browse the internet. I knew those were just distractions to get me away from my fear. My fear of creating "shit" as I currently was doing in Photoshop. The bad part is, sometimes this entire vicious cycle of shitty design lasted the entire day, until I was tired and hungry and I decided to try again tomorrow.

    The next day, guess what? It started all over again. Maybe I thought about my previous days ass effort and I simply wasn't feelin' it. I started to work again and once again, shitty designs, poor color choices and derivative, uninspired designs flowed on the screen. I stopped thinking about it and became robotic with it. Just design. Eventually, I had a breakthrough. I found some random shape on the screen and my mind ran with it. What happened is what I am sure has happened to many others. My initial idea of "This is a shitty art day, I'm only gonna endure this for maybe an hour" turned into "Holy shit, I'm really hungry and I missed that TV show I wanted to see. Have I really been working for 4hrs?" I motivated myself based upon my success.

    Just start the process of work. Get out of your head about it and just put the pencil to the paper or the pen to the tablet. Brilliance, creativity and motivation is only 1,000 shitty designs away. So sit down and focus on drawing something shitty tomorrow. If it turns out bad then you only have 999 more to go. If you focus on drawing that elite portfolio piece right out of the box, then you have a very tough mental road to plow through when you notice 30minutes in that your artwork looks like ass.

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    I really agree with creavix, but the starting is the hardest part. It really is like waking up in the morning, you always want to press the snooze, 5 more minutes ,etc. but if you manage to stand up for a while then staying awake is getting easier and easier.

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    Make a list.
    Set goals.
    Work faster. If it takes you more than 90 minutes to finish something you probably should be doing something else with your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deliciouspeter View Post
    Make a list.
    Set goals.
    Work faster. If it takes you more than 90 minutes to finish something you probably should be doing something else with your time.
    <---- gets back to his thesis project which will require another 500 hours to finish...

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    Quote Originally Posted by That fat kid View Post
    Develop severe perfectionism, you'll be motivated by your own neurosis.
    I disagree. Severe perfectionism leads to «Either perfect or not at all» and that's how you get into the rollercoaster Rampage-Slacking-Rampage-Slacking. It happens to me a lot, I'll do the perfect thing or don't do it, or I'll just do a fast lousy work when I must just do something (for an assignment, for example) because «if it's not going to be perfect, why bother?»

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    Quote Originally Posted by Favila View Post
    I disagree. Severe perfectionism leads to «Either perfect or not at all» and that's how you get into the rollercoaster Rampage-Slacking-Rampage-Slacking. It happens to me a lot, I'll do the perfect thing or don't do it, or I'll just do a fast lousy work when I must just do something (for an assignment, for example) because «if it's not going to be perfect, why bother?»
    Spot on.

    This happens to me as well. I usually don't draw at all for fear of doing something imperfect

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    Well I caught the sarcasm. Then again...years of hard practised sarcastic commenting(now quit) has given me a good radar for it.

    Visualization is a technique that some people use. I like the morbid thought as well...I personally think I have one life and that's it. Good motivation for me to not waste my time.

    Habit is key. Consistently sit down to draw for an hour every day and it will become as natural as eating. and later, breathing.


    However...I would also like to say that surfing the net isn't necessarily a bad thing. You're probably seeing images/ideas that you can bring back to your work. Just try to mesh the two a bit more instead of a week on one, a week on the other. Surf for a day to relax and recharge batteries and then go to town on the ideas that you discovered. As you run out of those,t he sheer act of painting/dwg will give you more ideas and the process will feed itself.

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    I love you all for giving such great advice! I really do have to just get in there and start cranking out work sometimes whether it's going to turn out good or bad. I'm definitely going to drop that fear from now on.

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    I got a book once called 'Doing It Now' by a guy named Edwin Bliss, basically just page after page of sniping at any and all excuses to fart around not getting busy, and it got me more enthusiastic about the concept of 'just get working'.

    There are dozens of ways to do this and it all matters less than the bottom line of JUST START. No waiting for the right moment, no trying to be in the right frame of mind, just be there doing something! The way to identify 'inspired' is in HINDSIGHT. "yay, that last 8 hours was really inspired!".

    You don't try to spot that 8 hours ahead of time and take a nap if it seems unlikely. You spot it out of 800 hours you've just done, and try not to get mad about the 792 hours that weren't as inspired as you'd like.

    I earn my living off my creative (not visual arts though) work, so it worked for me. Oh, also I wrote fan mail to the 'Doing It Now' guy once.

    Reply came within DAYS.

    It's that simple. Just get busy, you can't wait around until it's your best 10 percent, or only work when you're insanely pent up with energy- that'll kill you, trying to get that pumped up all the time. Do what you do from where you're at and it'll get better.

    I'm going to post this now and then go directly to my current project without looking at a single other web page

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    Theres a little wire that goes from the modem to the voltage regulator, is not so though, if i need motivation thirst thing i do is unplug it and grab a book to study,make doodles of whatever, or just play that movie that i like so much and study how the gobernor of california´s muscles react while holding a 20 kg sword to slay a guy dressed in a lizard outfit.

    My last point is, try to mix your studies with something you like... porn is also a good resource for life drawing if thats fancy you, like hell it does for me Keep it fun, always look around for inspiration, and mix it with a lot discipline,specially in the times when tedious technical subjects are the main thing to deal with.

    Although i had and have still similar issues, this is the conclusion i always arrive to.

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    Actually, I don't have any motivation whatsoever. Nothing works for me.
    I don't have the time. Every time I draw is a step away from my studies.

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    I sat at my desk, with those silly stuipd thoughts running through my mind, like if my brain somehow mangaes to wriggle itself out of my brain, lie down in front of me, and go to sleep...I mused for a second muttering something to myself as I sorted out just how unreasonable that senario was, as I dug through my traw of pencils looking for one with just the right feel and color, then getting mad at myself for careing about something like the color of a pencil, i picked one I didn't like.

    I paced myself, in time picking up a piece of paper, and laying it down infront of me, the same time I finished selecting the fine pencil...I didn't like...

    ...
    ....
    .....
    "now what?"

    oh, thats right, I was supposed to draw...[I]something[I]
    ..wat?...erm....

    I nearley slugged myself over to my "library", a shelf about waist high that somehow managed to hold about 3 books and not fall over. I grabed one. 3 hours later, I loom over back to my paper...and that pencil I don't like...and expect to have found that...erm...oh ya "something"

    unfortuenly for me, the paper is sitll blank...looks like the last 3 hours didn't do as much for me as I had hoped...crap...

    "just draw a line"
    what? thats hopeless, so I did it.

    20 minutse later I'm ABSORBED...if only I had done that from the beginning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt4470 View Post
    Usually looking at other people's work is motivation enough for me.
    Though lately I haven't been motivated at all. I haven't drawn anything in 4 months.
    Oddly enough the opposite happens with me. Looking too much at what other people do, makes me think I don't have what it takes. I will read instructional books and go about my own way.

    It's especially true for online Web 2.0 galleries like DA and stuff, because you get caught up in stupid bullshit with comments and wasting your time.

    I find shut out with "nothing else to get in my way" causes me to work more on art.

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    I have the same problem, but lately i decided to take those 'Rampages' and do several quick starts of pieces that would take me long to finish. Take them to a rough state where i can see the composition is cool and worth it. By the time im feeling lazy, i drop any other activity i'm on, especially surfing the web. I sit in front of my piece and look at it for a while, imagine how good it could be if i only spent some time on it. Then i start feeling like doing something small here, a line there, and when i notice, i have spent hours working on it. Also, stick to a plan, a schedule. At first is hard, for you tend to wander in your mind, but after a couple weeks of doing in CONSISTENTLY, it will become an usual event of the day, and you will get acostumed to the fact that at this hour, everyday, you sit and draw. I hope you overcome this issue, for i'm sure is one we all face.

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