The best major for concept/character design at SCAD
Hello. Um. ...So here's my problem.
I am a freshman at SCAD and I want to do concept art, but specialize in characters (would be cool to work at Disney one day ^^) and I'm not sure whether I should major in Illustration or Sequential Art. 'Why sequential art?' you ask. Because it seems like there is a lot more concentration on drawing characters than in illustration. Classes like 'constructive animal anatomy for creature design', 'conceptual illustration', 'drawing hands and feet' and 'fantasy illustration.' (of course, I only get so many electives so I can't take them all...) Illustration major seems so general, but I always hear that if you got for concept artist you should get a degree in illustration.
And I could easily solve this by getting a major and minor- but I don't want to spend 579023851309 more dollars for another 2 years. And plus, I'm eager to move on past college
I just would like to hear everyone's opinion, advice, or just what they'd do in my situation. Thank you!
You seem to be a little confused. If you are aiming to be a concept artist you should be in an Illustration course, one of course that includes a strong Concept Art department. The ideal course would be where you are taught classic drawing and painting, passing then to illustration and Concept Art. At the same time, of course, you have to be taught 3D with software like 3D Max and ZBrush as well as Photoshop and Painter. Ideally you should be taught by working Professionals. Lessons on industrial design or Architectural design would also be a help for Environment Concepts where Structures are important. Anatomy, Perspective and History of Art ar always part of these courses. Photography should also be part of the course.
If you are not happy where you are you should look around for a College that will satisfry your needs. Always look at what the students produce if it is not what you expect, look elsewhere.
One place you should look at is "Gemini School of Visual Arts & Communication" in Texas.
hi, i'll reply here since i don't think oohna is really familiar with SCAD's seq art program. at all.
stick with seq. art as a major. i've heard from various students in the major, and professors, of students being hired by animation studios over animation majors. drawing is a good foundation for concept art, and i know there are quite a few seq. art courses that go in that direction. although not enough, i do know of a couple of classes where you build maquettes (spell?) of characters (my roommate is currently doing one). what you would gain from illustration is the exploration of a more variety of material, something in my opinion, that you could probably pick up on your own. don't forget you have a couple of elective studios, and you might want to use those to take painting/illustration courses. oh, and if you can, take Drawing for Design. it's a great class and if you have Debra Malschick, she's very understanding of "concept art". you'll learn to draw in a new way, one which is more mechanically inclined (i.e. afterwards you should be able to draw a decent space ship or at least understand how to get started haha)
i speak as a student of SCAD (industrial design, not really concept art though) who has friends and a roommate in the seq art department. hope that helps.
p.s. there's a major's fair coming up, you might want to check that out too.
Oohna, I appreciate the advise you've given me, but the Illustration course at SCAD doesn't seem to have a concept art department.... Therefore, your answer scares me because that means I would have to go to a different college and I would hate to move away from Savannah :o But it does in a way answer my question because it seems Illustration majors at other colleges are completely different. No wonder that is the recommendation I usually hear.
Moroi, I'm glad to hear from another SCAD student ^^ I wish there were a lot more free electives, there are too many comic book scripting and inking classes that could be traded for more concept art relevant classes. (Can you do that??) I'll definitely look into that Drawing for Design course too. And yes, I am definitely going to the major fair I just wanted to hear a lot of opinions because choosing a major feels like a big decision to make.
lol, there's no 'concept art' department in any major art school. So good luck finding it.
Illustration major means that they will teach you how to draw and paint, and if you want to apply those skills to "concept art" then that's up to you. But they are not gonna teach you how to design kewl robots, and uber gunsword at art school.
I think the only "major" out there particularly designed for concept art is Massive Black's Concept Art Atelier. But that's not really a major so much as a school (sans liberal art courses and degree) of intensive work that has produced amazing results.
dguy summed it up very nicely, and I would just like to add that although SCAD's Illustration department isn't the strongest (for that I would look into SVA/Ringling/Art Center) it is the only school with a Sequential Art program. The Sequential Art department is a very good one too. As for substituting classes, I really can't say as I've never tried it. That would be something to bring up to your academic adviser though.
I went to the Open House for Sequential Art today and the teachers said that they are expecting to have a minor in Concept Design available next fall quarter. *cheer!* And apparently, SeqArt is sort of designed for a mixture of career paths between comic book artists, storyboard artists, and concept artists. I'm all excited about it now, hehe. So I guess SCAD doesn't exactly have a major or department for concept art, but it's good enough for me
Take that dguy! ^^ Jk, you're probably right about the robots and gunswords... D:
Moroi, I'm happy to hear so many people say that it's a good department. Good plan, I'll definitely set up a meeting with the academic adviser.
dguy summed it up very nicely, and I would just like to add that although SCAD's Illustration department isn't the strongest (for that I would look into SVA/Ringling/Art Center) it is the only school with a Sequential Art program.
It's the only school that calls it Sequential Art. SVA has had a cartooning department since it's inception as the Cartoonists and Illustrators School.
Well, I'm a SCAD student as well, and, like everybody else, want to be a concept artist, woooo! heheh.
I understand I may never become one, but I figure, "hey, I love illustration, and I can see myself being happy doing something else in the field". I'm not sure if Sequential Art would be ideal, if you're looking at SCAD for concept art...I've also heard it's a really tough major, mostly for the workload. But! If you're sequential, chances are you can do pretty decent illustrations...where it's not always such a smooth transition the other way around...and it looks like they DO have some pretty good concept-oriented classes I didn't know about.
Anyway! It looks like you've made your decision. Good luck to ya.
I apologize for bumping an old thread up, but this needs correction:
Originally Posted by dguy
lol, there's no 'concept art' department in any major art school. So good luck finding it.
Art Center College of Design has been offering Entertainment Design for ages as a minor under Illustration, and they've recently made it its own major.
I absolutely agree with the second part of dguy's post though; once you've got the required drawing/painting skills it's up to you how you wanna use them, be it concept art or book cover illustration. Having people like Scott Robertson and Neville Page teach you the ins and outs of the trade can't hurt, though.
I'm graduating tomorrow from the SCAD Sequential dept, and it was absolutely the right choice. The illustration dept. is not what concept artists are looking for. Within the sequential department, you are pretty free to substitute concept paintings for comic pages - you just have to argue your case to the professors. Also, I only needed to take three or so classes that were specifically for comic making - the rest were simply drawing classes. It's the way to go if you're self directed and are willing to learn the computer part on your own. You will leave the SCAD sequential program knowing how to do the following:
-draw from your imagination
-draw in perspective
-have strong visual storytelling
-be able to make storyboards, comic pages, illustrations, etc.
The rest, like any sort of education, is dependent on your personal drive. If you work hard outside of class, you'll learn plenty at SCAD.
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Sorry, can I ask you some more questions Vantrum? (even though I didn't start this thread) I'm a senior in highschool this coming year, and have been looking towards SCAD's sequintial art program for quite some time, I would like to know how good the profs are, do they care, or do they see you as just another brick in the wall? In general from looking back in high school, how much do you think your skills have increased?
And this is a more general one, I've heard that their attendance policy is rough, how true is this?
How hard is it to get scholarships from them? (I'm poor, but my family is like "If you get in then your going!")