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December 21st, 2007 #1
The CHEAP side of Art *Nudity*(08 / 02 / 2010)
Boy, i'm nervous.
My first sketchbook ever, after years of browsing the sketchbook section, i feel that now is the time for me to start posting.
Ever since i know myself I always wanted to be able to draw, but only now i'm really taking it serious. I don't really have too much $ resources, so i use 'cheap materials' in my art. A simple mechanical pencil, 6b pencil, A4 paper, you got it.
At the moment i'm studing anatomy, trying to nail down the shoulder/clavicle part right. I try to expand my horizons, drawing from artbooks, photos, imagination, others artists.
All critics accepted, any kind, construtive, destructive, any help is apreciated! I can't wait to see how this will turn out.
Well, now for the art itself:
My anatomy studies, 2 - 7 minutes each. From Loomis, Photo and My head.
Thank you for seeying.
PS: The display picture is an old vector-like drawing i made.
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Hide this ad by registering as a memberDecember 22nd, 2007 #2
Well, here i am, again!
More anatomy sketches, this time more 'from memory' and one from photo. Still the same theme.
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December 23rd, 2007 #3
Over and over...
Wow, 100 visits already, thanks all for seeying.
More sketches today, same theme chest/shoulder/neck. With the exception of one arm study and one quick head from imagination.
The arm, is from a madonna picture. Pretty nice musculature view.
Its a pleasure to be able to expose my little sketches here.
Thanks y'all for seeying.
December 28th, 2007 #4
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December 29th, 2007 #5
Thats for the comment Jokisalo! It's a pleasure to have such a fine artist commenting on my sketchbook!
Here are some quick doodles, to keep the sketchbook moving! All these holydays are slowing me down, things to buy, places to go...
Anyway, all sketches from 26/07, all from my mind!
Thanks for seeying!
December 29th, 2007 #6
Hi there, thank you for stopping by! Nice to see someone else practicing anatomy too. It's the fundament of everything else, so I guess there's no way around it. ;o)
As for your sketchbook, good stuff, keep it up. If I may give you an advice: use reference more often. There will be a time when we can draw from imagination, but at first we need to get to know how things are connected by looking at reference to internalize.
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December 29th, 2007 #7
Very good stuff!
Perhaps more full bodies?
December 29th, 2007 #8
Nice to see you have the art potential for future. Keep on posting and you will see improvements on a daily basis. So far so good
You I see like me use A4 paper for the sketches. I also use mechanical pencils 07 and 05..... finer line, easy to sharpen leads, consistent line when required.
Keep it going
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December 30th, 2007 #9
Thanks for all the comments, it really means a lot to me.
Lennon: Yeah, i really need to do more fullbody drawings, i'm not very confident with my general anatomy, thats why i didnt started doing fullbodies yet. But i really can't wait to start doing them! I really like yours.
Chocolate: You're right, i really should try to focus myself more on reference and less on doodles, but sometimes i can't resist lol. I like to use it as a way to see what i really learned and what not, but I will try to focus more on refs.
Clickety Click: Thanks man, yeah, i really love the mechanical pencil, its so precise and unforgiving, it really makes you push your limits.
Thanks everyone, for seeying and commenting, i will keep it up!
As for today, i will start with an older sketch, from 16/12/07. Almost all drawings from photo reference. And 3 noses just for fun! Hope there is improvement from there to here!
Thanks all for seeying! Best wishes!
December 30th, 2007 #10
Good to see you're keeping at it
One tip, you might try to draw a little bigger or with a finer pen as your lines are rather thick and don't allow for much nuance. If you draw bigger/finer you can put in more detail and it's also easier to correct mistakes. Also, differences in line thickness is a good way to make something more 3d.
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December 31st, 2007 #11
thank for the visit! I would do as yoitisi said and try to draw with a thiner pen when you´re going after detail and with a wider one on a quick sketch.
nice studies. keep doing them!
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December 31st, 2007 #12
Thanks for the tips elpez and yoitisi i really need to draw bigger, most of my drawings are very small. So, for the next times i will really try to focus myself more on the line nuance and size, my linework is lacking practice.
Last day of the year, i wish i could end the year with a more classy drawing, but i can't resist doing anatomy.
All the noses are from photos, done in 10-30 seconds each. The trunk & arms took a little more, all of them from reference too (Books and Photos).
I'm feeling a slighty improvement in my "observation" skills, it is still very hard to put what i see on the paper, but i feel i'm getting better. My rendering skills seen to be improving a little too. I really hope when i look back at this sketchbook i can see improvement..
The eyes were drawn just for fun, from ref too, i plan to draw more of then and re-scan the page later.
Well, best wishes for the next year for all of you.
Thanks for seeying and commenting, it really means a lot to me.
C'ya next year!
January 1st, 2008 #13
Nice studies Carbono, keep it up and you'll be great in anatomy in no time.
I like the red sketches in your post of 30 dec. In my experience its a good method to work like that, i mean searching for the correct line thinly and than going over the aesthetically more pleasing line with a clearer and sharper line (same medium or not no difference)
I like the sketch above the woman's breast in your last post especially, good work. you can also try to shade by going over your lines with a paper stump (roll paper up thightly secure it and cut it in the right shape and blend away ,if on budget like i am lol)
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January 2nd, 2008 #14
Hey Xerxes, thanks for coming to my sketchbook man!
I love this technique of sketching freely first and then 'inking it' after, its my favorite way to draw, it keeps my creativity flowing and i can freely experiment without fear.
And thanks for the tip, i will try it soon!
Well, here is a quick color study! I really need to start playing with colors, but the lack of $ really makes hard to find good material, so i try to use the PC with my 'ball-mouse', can't you think cheaper?
This sketch was just for test, it is a really small drawing (less than 1 cm² on paper), i just scanned it at 300 dpi and colored it using my ball-mouse (depressing i know, lol). Then i played around with layers and contrast, i liked the natural feeling of some, i think it ended up looking nice.
Later i will post some more b&w anatomy practice, i'm hooked to it!
As always, thanks for seeying and happy second day of 2008!
PS: I should really slap myself for forgetting to draw the lower eye-lid hair.
January 2nd, 2008 #15
Hey man, nice studies!
I like the nose study, because this is a part of the face which i do a lot of mistakes, your work is really helpful
One suggestion that my teacher made me: dont draw every eye brow separately, try to draw it as a group.
Keep drawing !
When all are one and one is all...
To be a rock and not to roll...
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January 2nd, 2008 #16BAWWWWW!
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These sketches are awesome - you have a great understanding of anatomy. Cheap materials can make some crazy stuff - I'll be looking back to your stuff for future reference. ^_^
There is a slight flaw in a couple of your sketches though - mainly in the neck muscles. With the sternocleidomastoid muscle (the one that goes from the back of the ear to near where the clavicles meet), it's not that they split like veins - rather, its that where they split, its as if one portion is on top of the other, and the other one "slips" out from underneath in a fork.
Well, it only really applies to the front view, and if the head is tilted, that goes right out the window. It looks a bit different everywhere else. ^_^;;
I dunno much else besides the face and neck. D:
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January 3rd, 2008 #17
drawing from memory is a very good thing for training, you did a good job here on the anatomy!
when i was 12 or so, i went to musicstores, was impressed by those "iron maiden" covers and such, when i went home i tried to paint them with colored pencil from memory aswell, not as good as the original for sure , but it was stunning training when i now think about it;-)
keep it up!
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January 4th, 2008 #18
Fourth day of the new year, phew... Time sure flies!
# Wose: Thanks man for calling my little sketches usefull! And thanks for the tip too, i will try to follow it!
# Thanks man for calling my sketches awesome TheCao, and thanks for the tip, i was really doing this thing wrong, i'm already correcting it in my new sketches! Thanks!
# Hey there Fantasio, yeah, i always try to draw from memory, i think its a good way to know if you really know something or dont, and when you push your memory harder, i believe you learn faster.
Thanks guys for coming at my sketchbook, it's a pleasure to see such nice artists commenting on my sketchbook!
As for today, most provably i will have another post later.
For now, i have this little sketches, i'm not totally happy with them, they were done very quickly, all from ref, just to 'warm-up', while the noses i think they turned out pretty nicely, the muscles aren't looking that good. Later i will post some stuff from memory!
Thank's y'all for seeying!
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You call this "cheap"? You has started here from good level (witch I still doesn't achieved), congratulations!
With my limited experience I could only complain on the thickness of your pencil lines, but I also make this error... :|
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January 4th, 2008 #20
Thanks DoktorNo for your comment!
Here it is guys, as i promised some sketches from memory. The eyes are just a quick training, i never practiced drawing both eyes, i still have some problems, like making both eyes equal and the iris placement. but i will keep practicing!
As always, everything 10-30 seconds.
Thanks y'all for seeying!
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January 4th, 2008 #21
Hey man, thanks for commenting my sketchbook.
I agree with what some of the others said, about trying to use a finer,
thinner line. You can then make the lines that lie in the shadows a little
thicker and darker. These sketches are all a great way to improve your anatomy.
I would also suggest doing drawings from life, as that will greatly help your
observational skills, more so than drawing from two-dimensional sources.
Don't be afraid to do full body sketches and studies. That's part of Loomis'
teaching method, to learn the placement of all the muscles first and where
they group. Once you know that you can then go further in to refining the
actual anatomy. Great job, I'm glad to see your drawing alot, keep it up.
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January 5th, 2008 #22
Hey pyro, it is a pleasure to comment on such nice sketchbook as yours, thanks for coming to mine!
I'll start trying to draw full body anatomy and figure as you said, I'm really lacking it! Hopefully on the next update i will have something! I will try to draw a little from life too, i'll see if i can find where to draw!
And about the lines, thanks for the tip! i will try to make the lines closer to the shadows thicker! i'm really struggling with this because of my cheap pen, but i will see what i can do!
Thank's again y'all for all the comments and views so far. This is my 10th post here, and i felt that i should go back and draw a little bit more from loomis. I redid a previous study and a new one, i did two studies using Gottfried's book. And 4 photo studies.
I really hope there is some improvement from the first studies.
As always, thanks for seeying!
January 5th, 2008 #23
it's nice to see these anatomy studies going on but lets see you use them in an illustration! there is also a lack of full figures bodies here, start piecing them together and play with them.
good start but be more adventurous.
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January 5th, 2008 #24
What's up Carbono. I remember those days, early on, when I was trying to put accurate figure studies on paper, good stuff man.
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January 6th, 2008 #25
Cool, you're doing exactly the sort of things what I wanted to do in beginning ( = around these days) and stopped because it didn't go right way. Bravo for having determination to keep drawing fast sketches of similar parts of body from various angles! As TZA said, maybe it's time to draw larger part of body, maybe whole one, or trying to draw body in simple shapes in various positions. (Just an idea where to continue)
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January 6th, 2008 #26
# TZA: Hey man, you're right, i tried to be more adventurous now. I did some fullbody drawings now! Thanks for the tips!
# Hey sameolesame, thanks for coming to my sketchbook, putting those drawings down correctly is hard, i feel that i'm miles away from being able to do it, but i love when i see improvement!
# Jonish: Thanks man, sometimes i really feel down when trying to nail something and seeying how off i'm, but i try to keep it up. Thanks for the tip, i will try to draw more and more full bodies from here on!
Well guys, i really don't know how to show how much appreciation i have for your comments, thanks for coming, it means a lot to me.
Following the advices, i started to do some fullbody drawings (or almost fullbody), i'm really struggling, its really hard. But i'll keep trying till it turns right. I used photo reference for all pictures, as you can see sometimes the perspective betrayed me.
On the top, 3 images of the same photo. I tried different styles to see the one who worked better, i believe the one with just the pen ended up looking nicer.
For the girls, i used mechanical pencil + pen, but as you can see, my pen got empty before i could finish. So, sorry guys!
After trying to put the pose correctly and following the photo as close as possibly, i tried to put some of my own anatomy knowledge to the chest/arms area. One of the ladies ended up looking very cartoony because of this...
Well, enough words, here goes the drawings!
Any tips, critiques, are very, very, very welcomed. They really mean a lot!
Thanks for seeying!
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I really like your stuff
just like the others said I'd recommend you to draw bigger. Because I remember reading somewhere and realizing myself that if you draw bigger your mistakes become more obvious which really helps when you're trying to study
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January 8th, 2008 #28
Hey Peter! Thanks for liking my stuff man. I'm will start to draw bigger, and use the 'smalls drawings' just as thumbnails or posture studies. Thanks for coming to my sketchbook, do you have one?
Well guys, here i'm a again!
Following the advices, i started drawings some full bodies (or almost fullbodies, lol!) Most of them were done very quickly, and small, just to get the feeling of the movement.
My favourite is the big one on blue pen, i think it ended up looking nice. I tried to use different line thickness too!
Oh and the two studies on the far right corner are without ref, everything else is done using photos ref, i'm not happy with most of them, but, i believe it is a start. I will try to improve!
Thanks for seeying guys!
January 8th, 2008 #29
good start carbono, i'm glad to see you working on full figures. the large female seems to be your best yet, it has the most line sensitivity, and negative space consideration. the issue i am seeing the most with your figures are the proportions, try using a drawing aid like those little wooden guys, or just starting with a stickman.
anywho, keep on doing life drawing and sketchi'n out figures will be second nature to you!
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Really Good Stuff! I am greatly impressed by your determination. The hardest thing in an artist's journey isn't the studies, techniques, money issues; It's having the determination to perservere. And you've got it my friend