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Mr. and Mrs. Alien (drawn without reference)
I like the portraits and the anatomy studies,but try to apply all you learn from them into your own pics!And be careful with posemaniacs.They show 3D models,not real models,so sometimes the muscles don´t seem to be very realistic and it could drive you into confusion!
I really like your drawings, very impressive especially considering that you've started such a short while ago. Quite a lot of improvement too.
I wonder if it'd be worth getting back to pen/pencil and paper occassionally. I might be a bit old fashioned but there's a lot you can learn the traditional way as well.
As for the anatomy sketches, you could check out books by Barcsay Jeno and Szunyoghy Andras. They are readily available in Hungary in any bookshop and they are absolutely brilliant.
And to answer your question in the bottom right corner, 'vannak'
That last month wasn't too productive, I hope this one will.
here is a wip drawn after photo reference. I'm not satisfied with head and hands yet - but eventually that's why I call it wip
C&C are welcome
work in progress images and final:
Last edited by Novbert; April 13th, 2008 at 06:38 AM.
Camara: thx for the warning about posemaniacs. I've noticed already that sometimes some weird things happen with the muscles of those figures, that doesn't seem to be totally natural. Anyway, posemanicas won't be the only resource I'll learn anatomy from.
JetLime: Hi, glad to see some Hungarian folks here . I know that I could learn a lot from using traditional media, but... well ... it doesn't motivates me too much. But I tried using Painter X recently, and I think it's really cool, and almost traditional - isn't it
Some small update today: learning anatomy from Christopher Hart (Drawing cutting edge anatomy)
This book is just awesome - learning from it will be realy funny I guess
also my first sketches with Painter
Last edited by Novbert; April 14th, 2008 at 03:49 AM.
some posemaniacs sketches:
and some bridgman ones:
finally I laid my hands on Sarah Simblet's Antatomy for the artist, but unfortunately I didn't have much time today.
So here goes the first sketch right from the cover (15 min):
Will be followed by many more in no time
painer X, charcoal, 3 hours (photo ref used)
and another one with painter (one and a half hour):
a little blurry - yes I know, but currently I'm just getting familiar with brushes in Painter...
I felt like doing some movie-based sketches today, so here they come:
and 1 hour:
and two sketches from the Sarah Simblet's book:
I decided to draw some speedies, here are the results (10 minutes each):
And another bunch of 10 minute speedies:
Absolutely wonderful expression and likenesses. You've really got a talent for that and should consider portrait work in addition to whatever else you're working on.
Having said that, looking at the reference photo for the woman in your icon, and then at the final versions, something about her expression doesn't seem right. The model in the ref photo has a quite playful expression on her face and in her movement that is almost, but not quite there in the most recent version of your drawing that you posted.
Nice work, and I'd love to see some more finished pieces.
scottmcd: thx for the kind words, man. I love drawing portraits, so I'll probably draw some portraits from time to time.
About that girl: I can see that mentioned things too, but I don't feel like fixing them. I have some sketching to do
So, here are the new ten minute ones
jeez, I really have to force myself not to draw finished ones
some feedbacks would be nice
Last edited by Novbert; April 23rd, 2008 at 05:48 PM.
Hey there - good work. The ones I think worked well are: ablak, felmeztelen, hullam, sotet szem, spot, and vicsor.
A few didn't work for me, and I'll try to say what it is about each of them.
ari: eyes too far apart - especially over the bridge of the nose.
lava: I couldn't tell what it was until I saw the name. The colors seem too saturated and intense to me.
napzemu: It's kind of stiff. Maybe it was the pose from the original reference?
sarga: It doesn't read as anything to me. I can see the rock on the right foreground, but there should be more depth if it's a mountain scene.
I've started using posemaniacs to do at least 10 one minute figure drawings a day. I'm going to go up to 100 and then see how it's doing. I was surprised at the variety of poses it throws at you. The very first one was from directly beneath the figure.
BTW - If you want some interesting reference for female figures (mostly), search for "belly dance" in the Google image directory.
I got Simblett's book and I don't like it. It's got some great photos. I think the figure photos give a strong sense of how to approach a figure artistically - emphasizing form, design, geometry, etc. But they don't do a good job of showing the different parts of a person, how they work, or how they fit together. Your sketches reflect that, emphasizing the grace and aesthetics of the pose/lighting/etc, but all loosely sketched, ignoring the anatomy itself. You have to wonder if you'd be able to do it afterwards from imagination. (Not critting your skills here so much as the book itself).
I liked Hogarth's book for the sketches on knees. Knees are very hard and his books give some explanation of how the bones fit together. it's worth looking up. Also if you want more photo references with great poses, try online here:
That'll keep you busy with studies for awhile and I think they're better than any figure reference book I've seen yet.
On the subject of digital brushes, i'm no expert at all, but I have seen some great "watercolor" digital paintings. That might be worth exploring if you can figure out what brushes to use.
TASmith: thanx for the comment and the useful links. I have already used mjranum's stock but I didn't know the other ones. I checked Simblet's book, and I agree with you. Now Bammes is my favourite, so I'll use his books to improve my anatomy skills. He has some really good explanation about how to build body parts from basic shapes. My only problem is that I don't really know how to reproduce those line drawings digitally. Maybe I should give a shot to pencil drawing...
Here are some sketches from his book:
Last edited by Novbert; May 15th, 2008 at 04:41 AM.
sketch with no ref.
I definitely need to do this kind of stuff much more often
just experimenting with refless drawing, shading, colors and stuff
hey nice sb, i like the progress from the beginning to now. keep up w/ all those studies and continue pushing forward. also try using harder brushes when painting digitally so the colors don't come out so muted and blurred. keep it up.
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thesadpencil: thx for the advice!
some daily stuff here. still no ref. I decided to show in progress pictures too so that you can see my working method
C&C are still welcome:
some photoref studies today
approximately 2 hours each
i noticed you kept saying you couldnt draw much because of tablet problems and stuff. Im curious as to why you dont sketch with an actual pencil? I think its very important that you do because after all you cant carry your tablet everywhere.
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biggjoee5790: Yes I know, and recently I started to draw with pencil again. I was just VERY disappointed when I realised, that the 300$ Wacom tablet I bought is actually a piece of crap. Problem is fortunately already solved - but not by Wacom...
Yay! My sketchbook is almost half year old!
Tomorrow is the big day
Till then here goes the daily sketch (ref used):
a very inspiring thread and I must say you make tons of progress. Keep up the good and fun work
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johanflod: thanks man. I will
daily thingy without ref