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    A Sore in a Masterpiece - November 15th, 2012

    I'd like to post any new/ongoing creations in here. Any crits/comments are always appreciated!

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    Digital edit from photography.

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    Interesting work.. it might help those who are willing to crit if you explained the goal behind your work a little, as it comes across as somewhat abstract, which is harded to crit if you're not sure what the aim of the artist is or was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyri View Post
    Interesting work.. it might help those who are willing to crit if you explained the goal behind your work a little, as it comes across as somewhat abstract, which is harded to crit if you're not sure what the aim of the artist is or was!
    That's a good point, although even though these couple drawings are a bit abstract, not everything I'll post will be. Thanks for taking a look

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    OK, criteeeeq -

    Get to know your 'forms' when you paitn digitally. THe rendering of the first two images lack any hard edges or form. You need in your own mind, to be clear what it is, your painting. I'm sure these are practise, and thats good, Im saying this so you can keep it in mind.
    The phot manip is pretty awesome, I like the textures, colors and shapes. Maybe, you could find a way of integrating that into your figures/characters?

    Mx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly View Post
    OK, criteeeeq -

    Get to know your 'forms' when you paitn digitally. THe rendering of the first two images lack any hard edges or form. You need in your own mind, to be clear what it is, your painting. I'm sure these are practise, and thats good, Im saying this so you can keep it in mind.
    The phot manip is pretty awesome, I like the textures, colors and shapes. Maybe, you could find a way of integrating that into your figures/characters?

    Mx
    Thanks for taking a look Molly. One of my issues is that I draw from whatever I happen to be thinking of at the moment instead of disciplining myself to draw a singular concept from start to finish. I'm hoping to work on that and have that the bulk of this sketchbook. I think this coming week I'm going to buy that Glenn Vilppu book on human form that Skethling mentioned.

    With the skull picture I was trying a process of using markers on vellum, scanning them, then layering them to generate ideas. Attached is the layered marker sketch for that.

    With the photo manip, I've definately in the past been concentrating on that for a lot longer than I have been drawing. I've got tons of graphic design and photography stuff but I'd like to concentrate now on improving my drawing/painting/whatever skills.

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    Still haven't gotten the Vilppu book yet so I've been working on one of Loomis' books in the mean time. I'll have to take a pic of the pages and upload them. Until then here's a graphic design I did last night.

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    Hey james hope youre well mate. Great meetin ya last weekend.
    as far as crits go. I really suggest you study rendering some basic forms. bumskee and idiot apathy have set up some brilliant digital painting thread, that i think would really help you out.
    Take care man, and I'll cya inabit!

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    Lately I've been attending a London life drawing session, this coming week will be my 7th week in a row going. Prior to this I had never drawn a figure from reference, come to think of it... I don't really every draw anything from reference... so you can see why it was important that I start attending these sessions. At anyrate here's (hopefully) the progress I've made thus far. The poses are random, they range from 30 seconds to 45 minutes, with some of them even moving continuously. The quality of the paper is bad(I folded them up, I will start rolling them up) and I took pictures of them in bad lighting. I'm not too worried about all that just at the moment but in the future as I improve I will take better care. Also, I'd like to start going twice a week so that I can work on hands, feet, head one day and then the body/gesture the next day. Also I need to start practicing in the time between(which I haven't). At anyrate, any comments are appreciated as I'm pretty hard to offend. THANKS!

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    Fourth Session.

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    Fifth Session.

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    Hey aefx

    I'm a fellow uk'er but don't really get much time to spend on the boards. I teach life drawing privately down south and think it's great that youve committed to attending a class weekly. It will do your drawing the world of good.

    However ,what i find is essential for beginners is to supplement the classes with some good books on structural anatomy and construction. Go into the class with some clear ideas that you wish to explore, investigate and confirm.

    Good books on the general subject of accurate observational technique would be : drawing on the right side of the brain and the natural way to draw. These books contain exercises designed to help you learn to really look at your subject without preconceptions.

    Excellent books on constructive anatomy are numerous and include work by Vilppu, Reilly, Bridgman, Bammes, Reed, Loomis and Hogarth.

    Studying anatomy is essential. It may be a little hard to take in at first but when you learn how to break the figure down into simplified form you'll find that you can apply a similar approach to muscle origins and insertions.

    it's a vast and complex subject but hugely rewarding. Most of all you really should enjoy every minute of it. Good luck.

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    Hybridstar: Thanks for taking the time to look at my sketchbook and give feedback. I have a couple Loomis PDFs and a Vilppu drawing manual... however I confess that I have not worked with them as much as I should. I'm going to try to make more of an effort plus pick up some others if I can.

    Session 7:

    I went both Monday and Tuesday for a view to do body/gesture on the first day and then the head on the second day... this did not go as planned. I got so frustrated trying to draw the head on the second day that I gave up and did body/gesture both days. I really need to hit the books and do a lot of practicing on the head.

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    Some more live drawing. Unfortunately due to work I've not had the kind of time I would have liked to spend on going to classes. Anyways, here's a few bits.

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    Switched from charcoal to smaller paper and hb pencil.

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    nice life drawings,and that switch you made has somehow improve your line quality dramatically.
    good stuff.

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    Love the last post man! get back into your moleskine! i hated my first one for ages and then decided that i was jealous of other peoples so i decided to work in it again

    but the last post is way nifty

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    It's been a long time since I've posted so here's a back log of stuff. I'll put up some newer stuff later this week. The images are in no particular order.

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    A couple updates here. First, a mix I made of different genres that share a dark industrial vibe(variety of flavours: DnB, IDM, Industrial, Ambient, Techno, Dubstep, Dub): http://postbocks.com/uploads/protean_carrier_influences Contains track list.

    Here are some graphic design bits I did 4-8 years ago. They are photoshop manipulations of my photography or 3D stuff. The originals are much higher res and made for desktop wallpaper, if you want the original size let me know.

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    i was wondering when youd update again. looks like youve kept up the candid sessions cos your figure drawing has really improved since that first batch a year ago. everything has a much greater sense of depth and solidity to it,

    you need to work on your markmaking, the confidence of your lines has improved alot already so it shouldnt be that difficult for you. practise doing a few sketches in a mirror or something, selfportraits using one line. just dont take the pencil off the paper - doesnt matter if it looks like a shit scribble, just keep doing it- the aim isnt to make an accurate self portrait with depth and form, its to keep an unbroken pencil flow. doing this a lot really helped me with line control and confidence.
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    It's great to see the improvements in this thread! The skull studies are great. Are you still attending life drawing classes?

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    I just started to work with oil as it's something I'd really like to progress. Here are my first two. Hopefully I can look back on these in the future and have a laugh

    The sizes are about A4 but I shrunk them a lot to fit on here. I tried to keep the colors/value as accurate as possible when I converted them to digital.

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    I don't know anything about oils but those are looking good! I like how you captured the distortion/refraction in the second one. Did you scan these or photograph them? they look a little skewed to the right to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koto Stomp View Post
    I don't know anything about oils but those are looking good! I like how you captured the distortion/refraction in the second one. Did you scan these or photograph them? they look a little skewed to the right to me.
    Cheers mate. You're right about the camera, I'll have to take better care when photographing them next time

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    you're off to great start here. keep working from life and reference and you'll improve by leaps and bounds.

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    a month since ur last update? come on bro. hope your still doing this candid thing XXXX

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    Here's a couple of black and white oil paintings I've done. Will upload some colour ones later on along with some pencil bits.

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