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    what's in their mind...

    In this painting I d like to keep minds of those animals.
    I didn't care to show a perfect anatomy or a body mouvement... just something that say " hum...".

    I d like to receive yours critics.

    Oils on "bad paper"... lol

    Best

    GG

    PS- I know... this could be seen as a sketch... but I wont to keep the "sketch feeling". Is not a "non complete" work, but a choise.





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    This looks actually pretty good. Especially the eyes really pop out. I can't seem to find any crits. If you chose to not paint the rest (from an artistic point of view I hope, and not from laziness), I think you made a good choice.

    And what do you mean with "bad paper". You mean copier paper or what?

    That's all I have to say, keep on going!


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    Oils really? There's almost no paint there.
    Why are you doing these in oil if I may ask since it looks like you're using it as
    watercolor?

    I like the bottom one the best and the drawing is nice.
    However they feel kinda akwardly cropped. The eye craves for more
    information.
    From a technique point of view ( apart from the oil crit ) I think it could be
    nice to have only parts coloured, but I would like to see more pencil work in
    there if that's the case. Not in the head, but in the background to let it have
    more of a base instead of the white BG .

    Btw, remember that paper is not archival at all when painted with oils.
    Make sure you give the paper a couple coats of shellac and let dry before you paint on it.

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    Thx a lot Kyronimus

    "bad paper"... sorry... is a way to say something that I'm not sure to can explain in English... pld:

    I try!
    This is a strong, dark, inchoerent, rough, card. Here in Italy we use this to cover the floor during building works.
    This card is really bad to work on without some preparation. In this case I used a white acrilic chalk and than I painted on it using graphite and oil colours.

    The choose to do not draw accurately the head of the animals is dued to two different cause:

    1- this is a work for a publisher that asked something like it...
    2- this is not a work for practise or for study. This is just a tale.

    I hope to manage to tell something with sense... I will learn English as soon as possible.
    This is a terrible handicap.
    Truly!

    GG

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    Oils really? There's almost no paint there.
    Why are you doing these in oil if I may ask since it looks like you're using it as
    watercolor?


    Because using olis is not the same using watercolour. The feeling is different. Could be that this is not true for the observer but it is really strong in my feeling.

    Why not?

    Thanks a lot for your crit. I appreciate them very much. Your point of wiew is precious for me.
    I'm agree with you about the BG.

    About the card... sorry... what is "shellac"?

    Baci e abbracci (kiss and embraces LOL )

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    looks good but I would say you might have made some unusual crops. In the first image there's no indication of the end of the nose so it looks like the nose continues forever like an elephant. Similarly, in the second one, the eyes looks like a dog but I can't tell if the nose belongs to a dog or a pig. In the third pieces, it would have been nice to have some indication of the ears.
    The eyes are done very beautifully and I think you did capture the animal's thought process pretty well.

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    Agree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gluck View Post
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    Because using oils is not the same using watercolour. The feeling is different. Could be that this is not true for the observer but it is really strong in my feeling.

    About the card... sorry... what is "shellac"?
    Hi.

    Yes oils have different handling then watercolor but that's mainly when applied properly.
    It seems to me illogical to go and dilute your oil paints ( which btw are difficult to make so pasty and thick and filled with pigment )
    with solvent to try to make them act as another type of paint. ( not to mention oils are often more expensive )
    And by doing so, your stripping away all the advantages and wonderful qualities of working with oil paints. ( working wet into wet, glazing, scumbling )

    Shellac is a resin made from insect secretion that is used for different purposes. The famous French polish of furniture to be one of them.
    But it can be used to coat paper and have a nice working ground for oils. They come in different colors
    - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shellac

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    Hum... yes. I understud your point of wew.

    I think that colours are a medium to obtain what you wont... not a master that obligate you to work just in one way.
    Oil is fantastic (IMHO) because you can work as you prefer: airframe, transparence, matter...
    I do not understand... why should I limit myself?


    In the following image I used the oil color in more matter way.

    It depend from the target. Don't it?

    Thanks for nice talking



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    I really like the effect these have. Nice technique!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art_Addict View Post
    Yes oils have different handling then watercolor but that's mainly when applied properly.
    Thank you, oh agent 007 of The Art Police.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Thank you, oh agent 007 of The Art Police.
    Hahaha. Ok Elwell, I'll shut up about the materials.


    Gluck.

    True, the materials are a means, not an end.
    One would only limit themselves if they did not explore all possibility's.... .

    The monkey painting looks nice btw. Nice feel for the hair.

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    these are really nice friend!

    I for one, like the unusual crops on this particular subject. What is being painted is the animal thinking about something- so the focus is not on the entire animal itself...but the windows to the soul, and thats why the eyes are done so well and you have obviously taken alot of care in expressing this. I can actually see them thinking, pondering...something.. Excellent execution, and fantastic skill brother.

    This belongs in the FF section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL.Alfaro View Post
    This belongs in the FF section.
    Just what I was thinking...

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    Thanks a lot friends!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Whyatt Thrash View Post
    Just what I was thinking...
    Hum... FF... hum... Finally Finished?

    If some admin or mod want to change the room of this post... OK!

    Sorry. I'm a noob in this forum. Please forgiveme for this.

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    These look really nice! You did a good job on the eyes and so as well on expression and "thoughts" of the animals.
    I am a little troubled by the white, although I like the style you were going for. Especially in the last one, the red faced monkey, the white is the first thing the eyes are attracted to cause its so bright and clean while the monkey is pretty dark all over.
    Why dont you try to keep the brownish background and do some less dominant colors in the back - maybe (in the example of the redfaced monkey) you take that red and repeat it softly somewhere in the background.
    Just some thoughts, but your results right now look impressive already! good job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascallo View Post
    These look really nice! You did a good job on the eyes and so as well on expression and "thoughts" of the animals.
    I am a little troubled by the white, although I like the style you were going for. Especially in the last one, the red faced monkey, the white is the first thing the eyes are attracted to cause its so bright and clean while the monkey is pretty dark all over.
    Why dont you try to keep the brownish background and do some less dominant colors in the back - maybe (in the example of the redfaced monkey) you take that red and repeat it softly somewhere in the background.
    Just some thoughts, but your results right now look impressive already! good job
    Good suggest!
    I will try to use a different colour on background.
    Thanks a lot!

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