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    HA! I forgot about this thread, suffice to say good luck to all the applicants at UWE. With regards to 'in house' style, I don't think its 'in house', more 'in country'. I personally went on ERASMUS in my second year and whats popular in the UK is different to other countries. We aren't pushed in any direction but if their is a group of students interested in the same diaspora then it inevitably happens. I find my own work quite different from whats happening here in the UK with regards to popular choice. you can find it here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarty View Post
    HA! I forgot about this thread, suffice to say good luck to all the applicants at UWE. With regards to 'in house' style, I don't think its 'in house', more 'in country'. I personally went on ERASMUS in my second year and whats popular in the UK is different to other countries. We aren't pushed in any direction but if their is a group of students interested in the same diaspora then it inevitably happens. I find my own work quite different from whats happening here in the UK with regards to popular choice. you can find it here

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    im waiting now far an answer from UWE. Its my number 1 choice..i got unsuccesfull with kingston and bournemouth...i hope i get in to UWE so does people there accept students with wide round of ambitions and styles and stuff like that???? or they have sort of criterium system there?
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    A wide range is a good starting point to go on and develop your own preferences and way of doing something. I don't see that being an issue at this stage. The course takes you on a massive tangent doing a massive range of things. I've only really started showing some consistency with visual language myself in the second semester of the third year. Now I'm just cherry picking the best of everything I like and making it my own.
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    Maybe you know when can we expect to hear the answers from UWE?
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    can anyone recommend me any good places apart from UWE and Plymouth?
    I've made 4 choices already, I need a 5th final choice.

    yeah I know it's pretty late, it looks like I would probably be applying through UCAS extra, mainly the because the uni I wanted to back into was unsuccessful....
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    Mine was too. Heck, I didn't even get to the interview stage. Which was a bit of a kick in the teeth.

    I did get a place at Bournemouth tho, and it seems like I'll be going there. Although Quicksilver's comments don't fill me with confidence in that regard....

    But I've kind of taken the view that ultimately, whether or not I 'make it' will be down to me, personally, and in the end the location isn't the be all and end all. In the end, it'll be down to how I apply myself.

    Well, that's what I'm telling myself, anyway. Obviously, it's a very hard choice to make. And it's a horrendous gamble.

    I assume you're going to reapply next year Sulphur?

    Quicksilver: Some more information about your time at bournemouth would be really valuable. Just more depth on what you've already said would be great. Is there still space within the course to forge your own path, if you're keen enough? Or are the tutors hellbent on making you follow their own path... What would be you consider, for someone in my situation? Would you sincerely recommend waiting another year (and thus facing far greater tuition fees) to reapply to UWE? Any info or opinion you could give would be invaluable. Same goes for anyone else with relevant experience/interests/opinion/whatever.
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    I-I just got an Unconditional offer from UWE!!! HOLY. CRAP. I did not expect that. @ _ @

    Now I have to pick between Camberwell fdA Illustration and UWE Bristol BA (Hons) Illustration. Halp?
    One one hand I like the idea of Camberwell's fdA course because it's two years with the availability for a 3rd year and a BA degree should you want it. And it's focused on working in the field of Illustration - you get assignments and work with them as if they were real paid jobs. So for experience about how to work as an illustrator it seems quite ideal. The class is quite small as well, 25 students. But it's very expensive to live in London.
    On the other hand I really liked Bristol, and it's cheaper to live there than London. I also really liked what I saw of their BA Illustration course's teachers and equipment (loved the printing facilities). I'd get a BA degree from my three years there and it seems like many of the graduated students go on to neat jobs. Many people in this thread seem to have applied for this course as well. I don't know too much about the different universities' reputations though since I'm not from the UK. So, what made you guys apply for this course?
    Fee-wise I'm thinking I'd probably do the bridge year at Camberwell anyways to get the BA degree. So the tuition fees would be about the same no matter which course I choose in the end.
    Well, anyone have any advice for me? I'm quite torn.



    gutss: Thank you! Maybe it was your wellwishings that helped? : D I guess you might see me there in September depending on what I decide to do.

    Sulphur: I honestly don't know which my first choice is. As I wanted to get into these two courses just about as much. They both have their advantages and disadvantages to me... but it seems like UWE is the more popular course among applicants?
    Sorry to hear you didn't get in though.
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    Hey E. Silva, obviously I can't speak from experience like Quicksilver, but first of all (to get the bad news out of the way) I have to say i've heard very similar things about AUCB's illustration course from several people, and I dunno about you but it showed when I interviewed there! If you look back through the thread you can also see some info on that course from Zilrion (who transferred to Animation Production after a year and evidently made a great choice); from what I can tell, and what i've heard (from Quicksilver and others), their course is quite "artsy", and they don't really like or value realistic/conceptual work. My (very) personal opinion is that AUCB's illustration doesn't look or sound to be very fitting at all for someone wanting to do conceptual work, and going on it might just be going to uni for the sake of going to uni, which for £x-thousand is possibly not the best idea.

    HOWEVER, though that may suck, you really hit it on the head with "the location isn't the be all and end all". Education is just a resource, and especially when it comes to uni, you'll get out what you put in; there are guys on really crappy courses that come out great artists because they know what they want and they have the will to succeed. I have no doubt that if you do illust at AUCB, regardless of their biases, you'll be able to steer it to something that interests you, and get something out of it. Even if you don't, and the course really just slows you down, there's probably a good chance you'd be able to transfer to Animation or something in the second year (I dunno how easy that is, you should ask Zilrion if you're interested), and AUCB's animation course has a really good reputation (I should be joining Zilrion and Gualtieri there after summer, really looking forward to it).

    Something worth bearing in mind is that if you got in, it obviously means they're probably going to be receptive to whatever it is that you're already doing (I have a very conceptual portfolio and -didn't- get a place on illustration; take a look at my blog below for some examples of work in that very portfolio... luckily I was only interviewing illustration as a backup).

    I'm not saying you should or shouldn't go, i'm really just looking at both sides and seconding your evaluation that in the worst case scenario, the uni you go to isn't necessarily going to hamstring you. Conversely, if you end up pretty sure it'll be no good for you, it is worth asking if you'd be going just for the sake of going.

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    Just a super quick addition to the above - you don't have to be going into your second year to transfer over to animation. Theoretically, you could request to do so in the first couple of weeks. I know people in the past have done so, and a friend of mine swapped over in the first term. It means a bit of a wait, and another interview, but if you started illustration and decided it really wasn't for you, then the hassle is worth it, I'm sure. We tend to lose/gain a couple of people as a general rule.

    I'm also friends with a few illustration students that love the course, but are very much into children's book illustrations and editorial illustration... so yeah, if you're interested in doing entertainment art, it might not be the smoothest ride, and swapping is possibly your best bet. I personally can't attest to how artsy or not the course actually is, so I'm not the best person to talk to, but as someone who is more interested in concept art than in animating (at this stage), thanks to the transferable skills, I can say I still feel like I've made the right decision in picking AP. Sorry to hear you didn't get onto the course you wanted though!

    And if you're very keen to go to university, I'm really not sure I would risk waiting another year when you bring fees into consideration. Not unless you can afford it.
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    heh i got an unconditional from UWE ))) so what do i do next???? ;D
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    Quote Originally Posted by E.Silva View Post
    Quicksilver: Some more information about your time at bournemouth would be really valuable. Just more depth on what you've already said would be great. Is there still space within the course to forge your own path, if you're keen enough? Or are the tutors hellbent on making you follow their own path... What would be you consider, for someone in my situation? Would you sincerely recommend waiting another year (and thus facing far greater tuition fees) to reapply to UWE? Any info or opinion you could give would be invaluable. Same goes for anyone else with relevant experience/interests/opinion/whatever.
    Like Gualtieri said, you can transfer to another course at the beginning if you wish. Personally, I highly suggest that since the Illo course is now run by a Fine Artist who thinks very little of concept art. I had it tough there and wouldn't wish it upon anyone if they had the same goals as me. As far as I'm concerned, that course is a lost cause. The only real benefit I got from it was learning loads of software but I think the technician who used to teach those classes has been moved or something.

    Sorry if I've worried you but believe me, you're better off joining a course that welcomes and accepts you than wasting your time fighting your way through one. The lecturers are nice but they have their strong opinions (which they're entitled to, obviously, though they can get in the way) and have a habit of going back on their word.

    Best of luck with whichever path you choose. If you're serious about a transfer then if I were you, I'd contact the Animation course and make them aware of your decision and maybe arrange an informal visit to their studio. If you can secure a place there, THEN inform the Illo course. Lisa might try to convince you to stay otherwise but stick to your guns if you're sure of what you want.
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    I'm back home in Sweden for the summer and have managed to make up my mind! I guess I'll see EpicKey, Tadas and gutss in September? : D
    If any of you guys want to get together and talk before then feel free to PM or mail me (mirrew[at]gmail[dot]com).

    I kind of feel sorry for my family because I constantly move out of the country... but I am sooo looking forward to this course and living in Bristol!
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