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    Hardest concepts in art to learn?

    Anatomy seems very hard, I can barely get it down. Perspective must be even harder though, I cant imagine being able to draw a guy flipping in the air and then punching, with the angle from below
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    I’m sure different artists all struggle with different things. Anatomy and perspective, for instance, are apples and oranges. Also, whether a particular thing is difficult depends on what tools and opportunities you’ve got at hand. If you have a drafting table, T-square, and a good book on perspective, it’ll be easier to learn. If you’ve got figure drawing sessions available to you, and a good anatomy text, that will be easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seedling View Post
    I’m sure different artists all struggle with different things. Anatomy and perspective, for instance, are apples and oranges. Also, whether a particular thing is difficult depends on what tools and opportunities you’ve got at hand. If you have a drafting table, T-square, and a good book on perspective, it’ll be easier to learn. If you’ve got figure drawing sessions available to you, and a good anatomy text, that will be easier.
    I have like 4 anatomy texts and I go to life drawing but I still havent seen much improvement
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    Anatomy and perspective are easy, all they take is putting in the time and effort. Composition and concept/storytelling are much harder, because they're more abstract, and the standards are less objective. That's why there's so much technically competent but booooooring (or even worse, conceptually laughable) realist artwork out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Anatomy and perspective are easy, all they take is putting in the time and effort. Composition and concept/storytelling are much harder, because they're more abstract, and the standards are less objective. That's why there's so much technically competent but booooooring (or even worse, conceptually laughable) realist artwork out there.

    They are easy? It's been a few months since I started tackling it and I've seen very little if any progress. I cant even draw a front view of a figure standing straight. Should I learn the skeleton well first, then the muscles, then trying drawing poses? And then drawing that figure from an entirely different perspective seems like it will be headache-inducing. Not to mention figuring out where all the shading should go! Man the comic book artists make it look so easy...
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    Relatively easy. And a few months is nothing.

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    hardest concepts in art are

    1. you are never done learning, or you have fooled yourself

    2. no one can learn for you (in other words you have to get off your lazy butt and do it)

    3. you need passion to go far

    4. money is secondary
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    i always felt that drawing, perspective, lighting, anatomy and all that jazz was really quite simple in the scheme of things. This is not to say i'm a master at any of them because i'm not.

    But the hardest to learn imo is creativity because that's not really a concept you can tangibly teach in 10steps like everything else.
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    1. that the world of art, like the world of anything, is filled with sheep.

    2. that statistically speaking you are one of the sheep.

    3. doing something about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Anatomy and perspective are easy, all they take is putting in the time and effort. Composition and concept/storytelling are much harder, because they're more abstract, and the standards are less objective.
    QFT. I only recently came to realize this.
    Even a technically sub-par drawing can look good with great composition.
    I always wondered why all the professionals scribbled thumbnails look so good. Now I know.
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    Creativity's easy. Making it work with design is slightly more difficult. Hence Dada and surrealism. Anatomy and perspective are a piece of cake. The hardest things, for me, is the basic human shit that you need to be a great artist: perseverance, patience and hard, hard work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaxser View Post
    Creativity's easy.

    I wouldn't know about that, honestly how many people here are even creative? Just because you can label artwork fantasy or sci-fi doesn't make it creative. A good deal of artwork here just looks like some idea someone else already creatively thought off. Drawing an alien isn't creative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smellykitty View Post
    I wouldn't know about that, honestly how many people here are even creative? Just because you can label artwork fantasy or sci-fi doesn't make it creative. A good deal of artwork here just looks like some idea someone else already creatively thought off. Drawing an alien isn't creative.
    Was I talking about the artist here? No. I explicitly mentioned Dadaism. Sign a urinal and put in an art gallery. Make a dress out of meat. Piss on a crucifix while somebody films it. All creative. All easy.
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