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September 22nd, 2007 #1
Complete begginer -
Hey everyone, My name is Uri, so far I have been mainly in to 3d arts, for a long time now, but I want to get in to ringling's computer animation program, which means I need to have some decent trad' skills.. sadly I don't have much time or much exprienece at all. never really held a pencil except a few attempts here and there, but now I know I need to get a hold of it.. so hopefully you guys can Point me on my mistakes (and I know there are many..) and let me know perhaps I am just chasing rainbows applying this year? (allthough I will probably still keep attempting.. can't lose much more then 40$).
Anyways, here are some sketches for past few weeks.
Any way's here goes:
Thanks for the replies.
Last edited by UriL; November 24th, 2007 at 01:59 PM.
September 22nd, 2007 #2Registered User
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Good start and sure doesn't look like a complete beginners work. Hope to see more of these soon if you're applying to Ringling and all but here's some tips I can think of at the moment... Firstly, your lines don't seem like the long, flowy sweeps they could be - forming them of those little strokes ain't the right way to do it. One good excercise for line quality is sketching something without lifting the tip. Do that for a while and you'll notice your lines finding their places quicker and just looking better.
Also, try to be patient with progress, starting from the basic shapes and moving on to the details so you'll end up having the proportions right. Your self-portrait doesn't seem to have a straight center-line and some parts in the anatomy sketches seem to vary in widths for example. The animal sketches look pretty correct though and maybe the 3d background has indeed lent something to their quality.
Keep up the good work and remember to draw from imagination too.
September 22nd, 2007 #3Registered User
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All of these are very nice. I like how you made the left life drawing really angular for an easier understanding of how it all comes together. My only advice is keep doing more and more and more and more of what you have here. More and more and more.
Please show some love at my DA page. BobbyDash.DeviantArt.com or leave some critiques in my sketchbook thread HEREhttp://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...=1#post2288893
September 23rd, 2007 #4
Hey guys thanks for the encourgin replies..
I actaully bought my first sketch book today, feels much more friendly then a batch of printer pages.. also has a very slight cream tint which I like..
Anyways, here are a few quick animal sketches, each is about 40 minutes.
I also did 3 potraits which cochroal pencil.. Very fun and "quick" but I guess I had the learn the hard way did I need to use some fixitive for the pictures not to get all messy so I don't have much to show other then alot of smushi blacks
September 24th, 2007 #5
the day is still young hopefull to get some more nose/mouth/ear studies
Last edited by UriL; September 24th, 2007 at 06:49 PM.
September 25th, 2007 #6
Here's today's update.
I've tried following bob kaote's tutorial on monochormatic painting.. there's a few things I'm missing in using the media.. I have a few questions..
Firstly, how do you go about drying the brush? simply squash the brush on the water bucket, or perhaps use some kind of toilet paper to get the water out? secondly, Do I wet the brush before every time I take paint?or simply dry?
and Lastly, bob uses a dump brush to smooth transition and blur out the colors.. When ever i tried I always had paint left over from the previous stroke.. how should I go about it? simply have another seprate clean brush only for that? would really be helpfull to hear answers So I can improve with the painting.. (which Obviously as you will see by the resault I have not much idea of what I was doing.. ugghh)
Anyways, here's the quick paint and a few more anatomy excerises.
September 25th, 2007 #7
i wouldn´t call me beginner if i had your skills. love the nose/mouth/ears sketchings....i have to do the same if i want to do steps forward.
nice work keep on
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Last edited by Elch; February 13th, 2009 at 05:59 AM.
September 25th, 2007 #9
Hey Fabk thanks for the complement.. well i am just begning never really got in to drawing before.. but thanks alot!
Elch this is very good input, you are correct I have mainly been doing studies from books.. simply because that's what I seem to see in most sketches books, but I guess I should mix this with alot of real life drawing aswell.. and yea I know I shouldn't jump to heads, but the human face has always facnsitied me.. so much deail layers and curves..
Hopefully tommrow I'll grab some jars, fruit and so on and try to get them looking right
September 27th, 2007 #10
Here's an update..
Afew more attempts of painting, pretty pleased with them as quick and dirty resaults, but there's alot to learn but it's fun!
And here's A BAD sketching excersises, didn't really try hard enough
and was kinda slacking most wihtout reference.etc.. Hopefully wont happend again.
October 2nd, 2007 #11
Well the last weekend caued me to slack off a bit, had a trip for a few days, decided to draw a few of my buddies, also started working on glen vipllu training, so I have loads of gesture drawing, trying to get the weight and dynamics correctly..
Also, this is a portrait of a friend of mine, I feel proptions are pretty much on, a bit off in places but all in all caught her, Hopefully I will do a portrait daily from now on.
October 3rd, 2007 #12
Today's portrait: Self portrait actually..
I think I nailed Proprtions pretty nicely, but I don't like the shading I did
in this one, Too dark.. I liked the more clear look the portrait from yestrday had..
October 5th, 2007 #13
Started working by glenn Villpu's Techniques..
very very rough and Crooked stuff, Lots of proptions problems, but I really love
the way of doing it, Very very logical and Inituative way of drawing the human form, It's only the 2nd class, but I think it's really gearing up.. Hopefully with enough practice thinks will start to look good..
Here are 4 Poses I just went a head and did use only the "sphere Form" and the gesture drawings.. Hopefully tommrow I'll get a few more done, and then hopefully well start going through the Box form.
I know line Quallity is Bad! Any tips for really practicing my hand on shapes? rounds? hatching anything Really don't know how to practice it..
it's been a few dry days, Hopefully I think these drawing will get me back to drive mode
Any comment would be great.. Really let me know if I am in the right direction.
Question: How do I add a thumnail to the topic, and how do I add a link to my SB in my signautre? Thanks.
Last edited by UriL; October 5th, 2007 at 06:04 PM.
October 5th, 2007 #14
Great start! You seem to have the most trouble with heads and faces. I'd probably dump some time into getting them looking a bit more even and proportionate -- your figure studies are doing very well though.
Keep it up, sir!
October 6th, 2007 #15
Hey Imaim, thanks for your reply, I deffintally agree, So I started
studying Loomies today, here are some Quick drawings.. just really
October 7th, 2007 #16
Ok more studies..
Holyday's over.. back to work, so Not alot of time.. but I do plan
on atleast putting 2 hours a day after work.
Anyways, these are quickies mainly, figuring out Loomies.. I think I am
starting to get the whole idea.. great stuff..
And a very quick Figure sketch, each about 15 mins Mainly
trying to capture movement and Proptions correctly.
Last edited by UriL; October 7th, 2007 at 07:02 PM.
October 8th, 2007 #17
Today I Figured I wont waste rendering times, and use them to practice drawings.. So here are my Doodles, alot of loomies studies.. startching to get it right, but still lots of mistakes, theres are some perspctives Which I simply cant nail like the Look from bottom, looks very wide.. but More practice will get it I guess.. and some other doodles..
Later I'll update some Figure drawings and some more loomies hopefully ( more serious then these pen doodles).
October 8th, 2007 #18
bro good studies, great idea to study loomis, hogarth and bridgman.
id suggest drawing bigger so you can use your whole arm to move the pen/pencil. this will give you a nice free flowing confident line and will make it easier to achieve great shapes.
keep it up
October 8th, 2007 #19
James, Thanks alot mate.. I Sent you a PM
didn't have enough time..
So only 2 quick figure drawings.. Had this other job I had to finish..
Hopefully tommrow Ill have 2-3 hours on drawings.. hopefully !
Anyways, problems I see with these figures.
*Fixed most problems and updated picture..
Added a few more head studies.
Back is a bit stiff taking in to account the weight that's on it.
Connection betwen thigh to knee in back leg.
Bottom breast odd, Head too down, Top Hand a Bit too thin at start.
Well I really need to get some sleep good night.
Last edited by UriL; October 8th, 2007 at 08:26 PM.
October 11th, 2007 #20
"If people knew how hard I worked to get my mastery, it wouldn't seem so wonderful at all" -Michelangelo
what im trying to say is, it takes lots of hard work to get to where the people you admire are. Its nothing but hard work, thats the secret. so keep those studies coming bro.
your last figure sketches have good movement and balance, you've done well there dude, keep bringing those head studies. perhaps i can give you a descent crit on the next one
October 11th, 2007 #21
haha that's a great quote Don-key! i guess thats the best advice for now, just keep it going untill we see improvement. it's gonna make you feel proud some day.
October 12th, 2007 #22
Hey guys thanks for the replies..
Sorry for weak update, been very busy few days at work.. I only have
a few Crappy doodle and a few more crappy figure drawings (Speficiely one in precise.. you'll see). What I am happy about Is my doodle finally have "Form" and not profile/Front shots.. so I see that as a step in the right direction.
And tommrow, Hopefully ill have some time to get some work going on.
October 13th, 2007 #23
Well Didnt have as much time as I wished, as a Friend of mine is leaving the country for a few monthes.. lots of pissues arround this.. anyways, hopefully Ill have an hour after the party for a few more figure studies.
The first is a figure drawing, I Actually put alot of time in to the shading, but' it's all in a 2hb pencil (yea.. I know..) So The scanner really ruined alot of it.. oh well.. and the breast aren't correct yet, seem to always get them wrong.
the second, a portrait of a friend, I am actually pretty pleased it's not 100% but it resembles him pretty much (yea his nose is that croocked..), and I think the shading has improved from the previous attempts..
Also, Can you give me advice of how all my sketcbook wont ,get graphite all over it as time goes by?
Also, I want to start studying Hands/Feet any advice for these?
October 13th, 2007 #24
Hey, your animal and anatomy studies look great! You draw the induvidual parts of the face really well, you just need to work on composition more. Your last potrait shows some definite improvement though Keep it up!
As for studying hands and feet, check out the anatomy books by Loomis.
October 20th, 2007 #25
Hey Zombie, thanks for the reply, I agree my faces turn out pretty croocked and not - proportioned correctly.. main problem right now is lack of time.. so this week only had a few hours to sit and draw sadly.. so I only have 1 portrait to show..
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hmmm, some bodies are very nice, but some faces are strange
it looks like you was painting based in a model, and then the model changes her position, so there are many angles of view in the same face. (we can see it at the last post, very clear)
try to do more simple studies of head and face, forget about the details and focus on the construction lines and angles, and after it, the faces you draw will look prettier
(baaaad english, sorry)
October 31st, 2007 #27
Thanks man, I agree and ill try to do more simple construction studies.
Anyways, I have been gone a while I was on a trip so didn't have time to
draw really.. but this is today's work.
November 2nd, 2007 #28
New day. new drawing.
Iv'e attempted another SP - think it's better
but still alot of work to get real likeness..
I think I should also add a BG i'll add one hopefully tommrow.
Last edited by UriL; November 2nd, 2007 at 05:24 PM.
November 4th, 2007 #29
Another portrait.. Something looks wrong with the eyes.. =/ gotta work it out.
November 5th, 2007 #30
Hey.. new update.
Fixed the guy from before, And shifted his eyes completely.. Works better.
Anyways, started working on hands, I started working with loomies using his refeence but I felt I would be much better using Live reference, so these are from photos, feel much more productive I guess. each about 15 mins I guess..
The first hand turned out so-so the secodn I feel is better (Holding pen..)
(tommrow more hands and some feet I hope!).
Last edited by UriL; November 5th, 2007 at 01:20 PM.