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    Dueling Sketchbooks: John F and Jason C-M

    Wanting to pump some drawing iron and hone those sketching skills, every week, John and Jason will post assignments for each other to complete. Within the week, assignments need to be completed and posted, and we'll critique each other's work. Of course, anyone else is welcome to come in and comment or chat.

    So . . . on to the first art chores!
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    Nice new start jason !
    where have you been ?
    Have you done any new paintings since last time ?
    As for a crit, maybe opening a bit more the angle between the feet ...?
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    Hi Daniel! -- I disappeared for a good long while there, largely because time to work on my perspective book (which is now off to the printers and due on the shelves mid-late December) didn't leave me time to do anything else, really. But I've been painting, and my jam thread here with John is just going to be my first foray back into the world of conceptart -- I'll be opening up a new thread for my own stuff pretty soon here. I'm delighted to run into you so soon, though! I'll have to check out what you've been up to.

    The Wolvie thing up there is a little Jam john and I did while we were out for coffee one day -- I spent some time in his neck of the woods over the summer. His layout, my finish.
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    Assignment One -- for John

    A. Do a bunch of those dexterity exercises Ron Lemen showed -- arcs, straight lines, circles, squares. Get back from the page and hold the pencil the way he shows. (http://training.xtrain.com/course/show/10)

    B. No ref. -- draw a fat guy. Try to make it as natural-looking as possible. Just hanging out, sitting/standing/whatever. Probably naked. Nothing dynamic, but weighty and nuanced. Just enough of a sketch to mass in the forms, don't worry about details like fingers and facial features.

    You've got a week. Now, hit me with what you've got.
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    Hi Jason,

    Looking forward to sharpening the skills with you . . .

    Kind of new at this so please excuse any incorrect formatting.

    Your first assignment:

    A. Practice the same dexterity exercise you prescribed from the XTrain series (nice stuff)!

    B. Let's stick to figures:
    No ref - a one year old baby boy (in diaper or whatever you find tasteful). Looking more for proportions here.

    Let's have at it!

    Best,

    John
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    Assignment 1A -- black aqua pencil and red conte crayon on bond paper (where the hell did my big pad of newsprint go!?)

    This is a great exercise and I'm going to keep it up -- also going to try it out in other media -- brush and ink, nib pens, cartridge pens, whatever. Big paper on an easel or whatever to keep it out of your lap is vital!
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    I did another couple dexterity exercises, the first in compressed charcoal, the second in ink with a #2 round sable that wouldn't come to a point no matter what I did.

    And the 1-year-old figure is also compressed charcoal.
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    nice work jason !
    The faber castell china ink pen's are very good. I dont know if we can find them here, but they're worth it.
    The last page with the two figures is cool, especially the weight of the last guy.
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    Heya Jason,

    That Compressed Charcoal Piece is striking. All the Lemen exercises are looking great - nice use of several media.

    Nice figures (I agree with Daniel - weight is cool on the guy).

    What time was spent on the child?

    Nice work,

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    Preparing Charcoal?!

    Deadline monster looming . . .must get sketching done . .

    Exercises are charcoal pencil (with maybe 3 or 4 line compressed charcoal) on 18 X 24 Newsprint. Jason, I blew an entire pencil trying to get that thing to a point (Like Lemen's). Anyone have any advice!?

    I love the feel of the medium - never tried it.

    Sketches are col-erase blue pencil (made grayscale). I need to go look at some heavy folks now and figure out what's going on.
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    The thing that strikes me really funny is your page of circles, I immediately recognize as your work. I wouldn't have thought there would be enough room for recognizeable personality in that exercise.

    So

    1A -- dexterity exercise -- good job -- I don't know about you, but I'm going to do more of these.

    1B -- Fat guy -- Good chunk of fat and muscle. Good weight, though the balance of the gesture seems a bit off and topple-y. Also his jawline seems a little un-fat (though some of that is certainly the high angle of view). Overall, though, I'm quite fond of this drawing.
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    Daniel -- I used one of those china ink pens years ago, but honestly don't remember a thing about it. I've got a couple cartridge and disposable pens I'm pretty happy with right now, but want to describe the china pen to me?

    John -- on sharpening the pencil -- what kind of pencil are you using, and what kind of razor blade? In my experience some pencils are so brittle you can only carve the wood, and all shaping of the charcoal has to be done with sandpaper. But most if you've got a good, sharp razor, it'll sharpen just fine as long as you keep your tactile awareness up as you're going, and sometimes steady the tip against something.

    The child drawing is under fifteen minutes, maybe under ten. The fat guy, probably under two minutes.
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    John's Assignments -- Week 002

    A- find good ref for a fat person, and use it to re-draw your invented fat guy. I've got a couple photos I can e-mail you to get you started.

    B- Find a good photo ref, something full figure. Get a BIIIG sheet of paper (11x17 is too small) and do a light gesture of the figure, then take some measurements and get the placement right, and just map out the figure however you need, as light as possible, as little information as possible.

    Now draw the skeleton into the figure. You can fudge the spine, the carpuls and tarsuls, but be as accurate as you can on the other stuff. Where's the head of the radius? Where's the Ulna? Do they twist across each other? Etc.
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