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    Wow, lots of talented newcomers have joined since last I frequented these forums! This is a solid start, and I really like the narrative feel of your 'Heat' piece. And since you asked further up, I'll give you my two cents worth of advice - when you're starting anatomical studies using Bridgman, Hogarth, et cetera methods, it's tempting to want to 'finish' a study by copying it perfectly. . . what I believe (and this is a draftsman's perspective, certainly not the 'only' or the 'right' way) is that it's better for the beginner to put as much if not more effort into quantity. The beginner will inevitably make observational errors that are only compounded by full renderings (and it's time consuming!), whereas in the same amount of time you could feel out the essence of single drawing by finding it's contours and critical indications of depth (overlapping 'T' intersections, et cetera) and drawing those few things 3 or 4 times. Also in my opinion, artists like Bridgman and Hogarth in particular include a lot of detail noise in their drawings that may make sense in their own vernacular, but won't necessarily correspond to how you might interpret the figure on your own (sometimes this noise doesn't even correspond to actual anatomy, but that's neither here nor there).

    Keep it up!


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    Idiomatic thanks...
    i totally get your point...it's true that each time i feel the pressure to get as close as the original...for my own satisfaction i guess, and the belief that it will help me to achieve tight rendering on people later...
    but for now it's probably also a good idea to do more quick studies...

    i'll do both...thanks

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    Work is burning me out...i'm not drawing much..
    here's something i did this week end...
    no ref..jus to see if these past weeks learning anatomy were useful...

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    Hey!

    Some great looking stuff here, just a few suggestions:

    You've mentioned you hate hands a lot, so you should probably focus some studies on them. Getting down well-rendered hands instantly adds to the image, while leaving them undrawn makes the quality of a sketch a lot less, even if the rest of the image is nearly perfect. The hands/feet don't have to be perfect, you just have to get the right shapes in, and the general values.

    I would definitely back up Idiomatic with the quick sketches, and add that you should try to get from-life reference. Even sitting on the bus is good, you can do really quick 30-second sketches of people who stand near you, sit across from you, ect. Or the park, or whatever. It'll help you get down true-proportions much better, and also give you more reference for different types of body shapes.

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    New setup and doodles....

    Hello all...
    Havent post for a while...
    Was a bit demotivated, so decided to change my setup...i was kind tired of drawing at the computer desk...(i'm already at a computer desk all day)...
    First i consider a TabletPC, but Gateway didnt want to sell to europeans and the modbook take forever to be released...

    so instead i've build myself a little piece a furniture to hold my laptop and 24 inch screen..see picture...

    i'm very happy with this configuration...so i drew again
    the 3 following doodles were quick studies from Simblet and Peck...
    software: The Gimp 2.4...
    yes...i decided to try the new version of Gimp..must say i'm really surprised...
    for the most, it's as convenient as photoshop for me, except for custom brushes...ah what the hell, it will force me to be good at drawing everything...

    anyway...thanks for any crits/comments

    Btw, i just bought and watched the Jason Chan video...
    great stuff...very motivating and inspirational...
    Last edited by Creatinity; November 5th, 2007 at 05:06 AM.

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    Few more studies...

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    Great stuff! You sound like you completely understand what you need to do in order to get better...and your actually doing it. There isnt a ton to say in order to guide you, just keep experimenting and trying to change up how you sketch.

    When you start your anatomy or pose studies, do you ever start with very light flowing gestures to try and get more movement? The leg study above this post is fantastic looking...do you think the lower shin bone is too long?

    The anatomy from your head is quite improved, but it will probably be that the dynamic poses will still be quite challenging (strange twisting/angles etc.) Next time you draw on paper, try and do more confident flowing lines, some of it gets very scratchy a rough

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    back!

    I decided that it was time to tackle those things I'm afraid of...heads, hands, feet....

    Starting with heads...

    a bunch of noses...

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    Bunch of eyes....
    especially trying to understand how to draw them when seen from an angle...

    i have some troubles controlling the expression they convey...will work on that...

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    more eyes...

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    again eyes....
    plus some try with GIMP...

    bunch of profiles...
    i was completely off at the beginning...but the more i drew the more correct they were...it was a good exercise....

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    nice drawing spot! a cunning plan indeed. good work with repeating studies, its the only way to get there, and smetimes its hard, but worth it in the end.

    great stuff!

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    Hello there,

    Apocalypse_Rex: thanks for your reply

    i'm trying to improve my color knowledge...
    i've started this type of exercise...i take a random picture, apply a mosaic filter...and then try to guess colors...i then color pick the original color to see how far i am...
    like in this exemple...
    lefts dots are my guesses...right are the correct colors...

    hopefully, i'll get better...be guessing without the mosaic filter on...and start to have some knowledge about the color of stuff in nature...

    Does it sound like an ok plan? or is it flawed? do you guys have better exercise to train with colors?

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    some cool dynamic bodyparts in here... Id sugest you try and go for a black silhouete and then ad some color and light to it... It will with the light and shadows working up the values from dark to light... and also dont focus too much on what color you pic when starting... the impoortant thing is how diferent colors look together.

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    Nice sketchbook,Creatinity. I like the rendering in those b/w digital studies you've made.
    As for color training, your approach is interesting, but i find it too mechanical. If you want to understand color you need to analyse it, not just copy it. Try making some studies without the mosaic and don't be afraid to paint from life. I also suggest to look for some materials about color theory, it realy helps in dealing with color.
    Cheers.

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