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    Red face Question about Oil Painting and Reference ...

    I'm a major fan of the art of Phil Hale, Rick Berry and Malcolm Liepke. Lately, I've been experimenting with the oil brushes in Painter and I was wondering about a few things:

    - Do oil painters like Phil Hale and Malcolm Liepke always use references (i.e. photographs, studies from life) when creating their paintings, or do they paint largely from scratch from their imagination? (I hope I phrased this right ...)

    - Does anyone know how long Hale or Liepke usually take to complete a detailed painting? As in, from the initial sketch to the final painting.

    - If you do oil paintings, do you often use reference or paint from start to finish from your imagination alone? How long does it usually take for you to finish one detailed painting?

    Thank you for your time!
    The Art of Kim Loh

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    1st question : YEAH, they do. And I'm sure they can do stuff from out of their heads, because that requires knowledge, and they already have that.

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    From what I've seen and heard, Rick Berry is very vocal in his beliefs that painters should not use direct reference, or use it as minimally as possible. How much of that is actual truth and how much is just building an image (regarding his actual methods), I don't know. All i can say is that it's his personal opinion, and one which I and many many other traditional painters will disagree with.
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    Don't plagiarize and use what works. Can't be more simple than that.

    There are various steps you should take into consideration whilst learning, but honestly it won't kill your art abilities one way or the other (except if you just focus on one thing and do it to death).

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    I know Dan Dos Santos and Jon Foster both paint in oil and use reference photos of friends & relatives.

    I think JP Targete said he tries to avoid reference.

    Hope that helps

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