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    You're president, and 911 just happened.

    (I don't want this to be a big political "who-are-you-voting-for-in-08" post.)

    I just thought, since hindsight is 20-20, pretend you're the president of the US, and it's September 11, 2001. I'd say the majority of everyone here is in agreement that we messed up to at least some (or drastic) extent in Iraq. I;m not trying to say that I think everything the administration has done was the best approach! That's not exactly what this post is about.

    If you were president, would you attempt to negotiate with middle-eastern governments? Would you do nothing until you thoughot you had all the intelligence information? Would you simply rebuild the towers and pretend like Americans aren't phased by terrorism?

    Most people say we shouldn't have gone into the middle east at all. (Personally, I think we probably should've focussed more on Al Qaeda, but what do I know?) So what would YOU do instead?
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    First two things I would do.

    Grow a beard, and research what is causing people to hate the states there. The grow a beard thing might sound silly, but in their culture the beard means respect, the longer the beard the wiser you are. If you lack any facial hair, you simply dont get any more respect then a teenage boy, even if you are the president of the states.

    When they researched what is causing the message of terrorisme (my guess poverty and rolemodeling of locals) it is time for a counter message. I would put on my best suit, beard and all the charm I got. And pick the country in the region that would most likely be my friend. Then I would start funding them. Allow that country to develop themself from an poor country to a country with a strong economy, important would be that american companies and the goverment outsource projects to them as an example to the rest of the world. And well doing that promote western values, but dont enforce democracy, allow for an islamitic government.

    In the surrounding region this should lead to countries looking at their neighbour thinking "Damn they have it good, what caused it? Really the states? Yeah they have an awesome leader with a beard I heard" At some point in time they would love to get some of the american loving, and would rather just share in the wealth that being freed by the american army brings, then keep fighting amongst themself.

    This would be what I do, ofcourse I know nothing about politics or economy. Except about beards because I read it in the newspaper last friday. (I do think that the beard works, with the turkish baker I get helped first instead of annoying kids cutting in line. Never happenend when I didnt had hair on me face.)
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    what i would have done on THAT day.. is immediatly calmed everyone and advised them to stay indoors.

    then gather info and what and who may have been responsible. although i find it nearly impossible to KNOW this with certainty that same afternoon.. unless the person responsible PERSONALLY called me and said so.

    but i would have begun to gather intell from any credible source or ally to help with the situation, meanwhile PROPERLY negotiating with governments the permission to go into their countries and get the bastard, should they be found there.

    with the right info and support, i immediately would have sent 2 [maybe 3] counter-terrorist units to get the sons of bitches and bring them to justice.

    all the while RESPECTING and appropriately asking other countries for assistance with the issue.. not DEMANDING that they let me walk in there and tell them what to do.

    while THAT was goin on.. i would have tended to the citizens of my country who SERIOUSLY needed information on the situation and continue to calm and respect them as well, keeping them in the loop of THEIR government's business to handle this situation.. instead of treating THEM like criminals or animals being herded to a slaughter house.

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    1) funnel a shitload of money into patriotic hollywood movie projects, indicating the desired enemy.
    2) lower prices on beer and fast-food.
    3) attack desired enemy, steal oil.
    4) funnel oil money back into hollywood and fastfood industry.
    etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squidmonk3j View Post
    1) funnel a shitload of money into patriotic hollywood movie projects, indicating the desired enemy.
    2) lower prices on beer and fast-food.
    3) attack desired enemy, steal oil.
    4) funnel oil money back into hollywood and fastfood industry.
    etc.

    Hey man no offense. But, that is the stupidest and lamest idea of them all. You should be shot in the sac with a rubber bullet.
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    what? teh propaganda machine obviously wasn't up and running....first thing's first. of course, in all direct relations with the general public, i'd hire JAG.
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    Only if Jags Vice is Chuck Norris!!
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    i would definitly have sorted out the situation in my own country while gathering info on who did it, why and likely location. then once i had reassured and informed my country i would contact all middle eastern governments PERSONALLY offer aliance against terrorism and work with civillians and foreign government to find and destroy terrorist cells..i probrably wouldnt have gone after the saddam hussein dictatorship imediatley because he wasnt the man who orchestrated the attacks and WE ALL NO THE WAS NEVER ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

    working with foreign civillians and governments would have been much more prodcutive then shoving an army in there killing as many people as possible to show you mean buisness..(i know that wasnt QUITE the case but not far off)..i owuld have focused on single operations, not conqering a handfull of countries a time i would have put al efforts into afghanistan because we KNOW there are terrorist cells and training camps there and working with british and UN troops wouldnt have made the US "the enemy" to terrorists because of an alliance.

    with the help of civillians it would have been easier to track terrorism but America having killed so many innocents so far in this war has turned the country against them, im sure the people dont enjoy terrorism but would cut off their noses to spite their face in this situation they just dont wanna help america.

    but i agree with JAG trust, communication and treating people as equals rather than inferiors is what will aid progress.
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    heh well Chuck Norris would definitely be my vice pres.. he could defeat all the terrorists with one roundhouse kick - JAG
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    10 point process

    1) Activate FEMA and disaster relief.
    2) Ground all flights put all armed forces on active alert scrambling fighters from every base with alert squadrons available.
    3) Prepare Presidential address to nation
    4) Have intel start working overtime figuring out all the logistics that allowed it to happen and figure out why no one either caught this ahead of time or neglected to pass the word along. From what was discovered our intelligence agencies weren't talking to each other so the next thing to come is massive changes in cooperation between said intel groups.
    5) Increase border security.
    6) After cause has been established call a UN meeting and brief them on the situation requesting a recommended course of action.
    7) With UN support request bordering nations to terrorist host countries to step up border operations and put counter-intel into full swing requesting assistance for immediate air strikes and spec ops insertion teams.
    8.) Increase maritime force and step up intercept operations for regular inspections.
    9) Have a sit down with terrorist host nation leaders requesting their assistance in military operations and offering our protection and aid in ridding said countries of threat. If non compliant, request appropriate assistance from UN.
    10) Update public on process regularly.
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    ...meh what undertow said..he said what i wanted to say but better...

    btw my comment sounded a bit "anti-America" sorry if you saw it that way it wasnt meant that way..i like america ..just not soo keen on bush :@
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    We've been dealing with AL-Queda and all the muslin fanatics since the end of WW2. (We worked with them when they were fighting the USSR in Afhganistan!)
    They hate us for 2 main reasons:
    Letting Zionist kick-out and take over Palestine (Isreal)
    And having our military on holy grounds in Saudi Arabia.

    So, after years of attacks and threats over there, Al-Queda finally said screw it..we'll attack them on their home turf.

    Now, after 911, I would have (slowly) pulled out of the middle east and invested $ into alternative enrgies, our economy, and infrastructure. Those countries have nothing to stand on if you take away their oil.
    The USA put men on the moon, we can easily come up with a better way to use enrgy and fuel.

    But this would have NEVER worked becuase of how much influence big business and lobbiest have on our gov't. It's kind of a no brainer ..make BIG money in a high demand market with a soon to be scarce commodity...OR ...have to compete with others in inventing a new way to use energy? Hmmm. I think I'd go with the money.

    It's a sad reality, but people have to remmember that our gov't is majorly controlled by money. I'm no Socialist..but this is one minor glitch in Capitalism. Only in extreme situations is it controlled by the people.
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    Way to go Otis, that's the most(read: only) intelligent thing I've read in this thread yet.

    Of course it isn't ALL about oil... but it IS all about MONEY. Every war and intervention this country has ever been involved in can be traced back to this basic fact. Yes, even that holy grail the American Revolution.

    All this reactionary war postering is a sham. It raises a climate of permanent war, it keeps the nations of the world in check and pliant to U.S. economic influence... which is what the power brokers in this country have been wanting for 150 years. There is no better way, in their eyes, to keep this country in " good health". When I say good health I mean the economy. When I say the economy I mean corporations.
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