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    What do I need to improve?

    This is for a kid book. It's my first job as an illustrator. I know I need to improve my style and I need your precious oppinion.

    Thanks a lot

    The sketch was made by hand and the rest with photoshop.

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    Line of action leading out of the pic AND characters face at the edge looking out = not so good decision in composition

    EDIT: other than that I quite like it. The softness you had in your other pics was kind of odd to me, but with the smooth skin of the lizard your style works here. I'd say for your faces (of humanoids) try to get some harder edges in there, but that's a crit for another day....

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    I hope that is not for the tales before a bedtime...

    As for the painting - its right leg seems weird: add some light there and amplify the shadows. For me - the textrures are too lightly made. Maybe adding few larger scales? I dunno.. let me show you:

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    The textures in the skin are so nice and intricate that the fact that the clothing/bow/arrow bag thing have no texture is kind of a bummer. I would do some sort of leather texture on the arrow bag, a cotton or cloth texture to the clothes (as well as some kind of flow to them) and some wooden texture to the bow.

    Other than that, the head looks a little too low and like it's not attached to the body. The ground could also have some rocks/cracks about it.

    "Yakko...?"
    "Yes, Ms. Flameel?"
    "Multiply 47 times 83."
    "Multiplication, it's math education! Isn't this swell? Oh, let's give multiplication a standing ovation...
    so buy a calculator, study this stuff later!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelaxus View Post
    I hope that is not for the tales before a bedtime...

    As for the painting - its right leg seems weird: add some light there and amplify the shadows. For me - the textrures are too lightly made. Maybe adding few larger scales? I dunno.. let me show you:
    You're right about the scales. I should have use larger scale at some places. I'll do it next time.
    Thanks a lot

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    Haha, nice to see someones getting better! Huge improvement over the last stuff, just watch were he is positioned on the composition and use some varying patterns on his body so it doesn't look the same all over. Also try and make the outline smaller, or even better yet get rid of it in your next one, remember lines don't make up the form light, shadow, and color do.

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    composition....right everyones already touched on it ;-)

    so I had a question; did you paint each scale or did you make a brush to do all that tinny tinny tinny work

    nice improvement from the last post

    slainte!

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    The linework under the painting looks stylish. Nice character.

    I won't crit the anatomy or the composition - others cover that stuff better than I. I wanted to try to help you with your rendering though - it looks pretty haphazard in your pic. Try to stick with a more consistent light source, and really try to visualize which direction the surface is facing when you shade it. I did an overpaint for you using the 'sphere trick'. I'm also attaching a demo I did way back when of the sphere trick for Ikuru. Hope this helps.

    Oh, that bow is tiny! Does he carry a tiny clown bow to make his enemies laugh to death

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    *basks in the glory that is YVerloc*

    Listen to him/her.

    "Yakko...?"
    "Yes, Ms. Flameel?"
    "Multiply 47 times 83."
    "Multiplication, it's math education! Isn't this swell? Oh, let's give multiplication a standing ovation...
    so buy a calculator, study this stuff later!"

    -Animaniacs (only a few good quotes from that song. Search "The Multiplication Song - Animaniacs" on YouTube
    for this video and any other Animaniacs classic!)
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    I agree with the tiny bow comment. Bigger bow needs bigger arrows. But a bigger arrow container near the center of the pic is a bit distracting. I would turn the bow into a sword or weapon which looks like a bow (ie remove the string), so the container is not needed.

    Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by _ J View Post
    I agree with the tiny bow comment. Bigger bow needs bigger arrows. But a bigger arrow container near the center of the pic is a bit distracting. I would turn the bow into a sword or weapon which looks like a bow (ie remove the string), so the container is not needed.

    Hope this helps
    Hm, well I think maybe the bow might be part of the story (he/she said it was for a book, right? Or was that just my crazy mind? *checks* Okay, I'm not going mad. Woot for that.)

    I think we could discuss if it should be a bow, but, Tiger Mimi, I would like to know if it's really for the story. Even if it isn't for the story, I still really like the bow (especially when it's bigger).

    "Yakko...?"
    "Yes, Ms. Flameel?"
    "Multiply 47 times 83."
    "Multiplication, it's math education! Isn't this swell? Oh, let's give multiplication a standing ovation...
    so buy a calculator, study this stuff later!"

    -Animaniacs (only a few good quotes from that song. Search "The Multiplication Song - Animaniacs" on YouTube
    for this video and any other Animaniacs classic!)
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    This is a great concept.
    The only help I see that you needed is adding dimension to it.
    A couple of tricks to adding 3d to your 2d:
    Smoke/fog/atmosphere
    value contrast
    shadow definition

    Smoke: you can see with a texture brush I added smoke to push the tail back from the left leg and the arms from the legs.

    Contrast: right where the tail meets the rock surface/floor I added a bit more smoke to create contrast and this give the illusion on there being drop there.

    Shadow definintion: You did do the shadows well - I just made your shadow darker near the foot. When you look at an object on a table (an orange) with a light hitting it from one side - the shadow will be darker the nearer to the orange and lighter further away.
    You did well - these are just little addons you can use in the future to feel more pleased with you creations. Remember your technique/styles will develope with time. You are doing great- keep in mind that constant daily drawing from life will get you to where you want to be faster that any trick, tutorial, etc.
    Keep rockin'

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    I think using some harder brush strokes would give it more definition and make it feel more substantial. AS is everything is very soft (well except for the line) and hard to focus on. blending harder brushes with the softer edges makes things pop more. not to mention easier to look at.

    See how solid YVerloc's version looks? everything doesnt seem to have the same softness and it comes to life.
    err. hope this makes some sense.

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    I used a special brushe.
    I just don't have the time to do all one by one.

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    That's a verry nice tip. Thank you soo much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftyy View Post
    Hm, well I think maybe the bow might be part of the story (he/she said it was for a book, right? Or was that just my crazy mind? *checks* Okay, I'm not going mad. Woot for that.)

    I think we could discuss if it should be a bow, but, Tiger Mimi, I would like to know if it's really for the story. Even if it isn't for the story, I still really like the bow (especially when it's bigger).

    Well I though that since he's a reptile and live in the forest, he can't run with a big arrow. And these lil' arrow does exist by the way.

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    Thanks a lot for your comment.
    I do draw from real life, i'm a portrait artist and it's the best way to learn.

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    [QUOTE=Rhineville;1378570]Line of action leading out of the pic AND characters face at the edge looking out = not so good decision in composition

    Should I add more space to the right?

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    Yup - I guess you had a problem with including the tail in the dimensions of the drawing, but yeah, the character should be more to the left if they're looking out of the painting to the right. Maybe Rhineville can give a better reason than 'because'. (Very nice sphere trick, gonna add that one to my basics myself...)

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    intence scales

    I love the scale work, how did you get such small detail?

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    [QUOTE=Tiger Mimi;1379744]
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhineville View Post
    Line of action leading out of the pic AND characters face at the edge looking out = not so good decision in composition

    Should I add more space to the right?
    I think a horizontal flip of the character would be better, but essentially yes.

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    It's looking better already, the image ''breathe'' more. Thanks a lot for your help.

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    Yeah, good stuff. I was gonna answer, but Yverloc did it. Thanks for the ball trick. Good stuff, hadn't thought of that

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