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    I certainly agree with that, Armando, but I'm...

    I certainly agree with that, Armando, but I'm particularly intrigued by the second part of your statement. Could you expand on that a little, if you have a moment.
    Thanks,
    Chris.
  2. Sticky: "Mischief managed". :)

    "Mischief managed". :)
  3. Sticky: Thanks Bill, that paper was a very interesting...

    Thanks Bill, that paper was a very interesting read.
    It accounts for why good artists often display talent across the artistic field; because 'a talent for art' requires a complex array of gifts and...
  4. Sticky: "But what about art traditions that do not put...

    "But what about art traditions that do not put such an emphasis on the individual touch as the European tradition? Is the authorship as important in them? Would you be able to detect this deep...
  5. Sticky: "It's not what the artist puts in, it's what the...

    "It's not what the artist puts in, it's what the viewer gets out of it. The viewer could get more than the artist intended, or miss most of what the artist intended. The artist could also...
  6. Sticky: "Would you say then that this is a matter of...

    "Would you say then that this is a matter of higher cognitive capacity? Ability to keep track of more things, go deeper into the context, etc?"

    Well, the ability to hold a lot of stuff in the...
  7. Sticky: Quoting my own hero... :) But is the ability...

    Quoting my own hero... :)
    But is the ability to reach insights about the world, to make meaningful synthesis, a 'talent'?

    When art touches us, it seems that the peculiar keenness of its final...
  8. Sticky: You're quite wrong Ms Spot! Trumpet players do...

    You're quite wrong Ms Spot! Trumpet players do not puff their cheeks out to that degree or at all. And it is for the same reason tennis players are told to keep a locked wrist - control. (only in...
  9. Sticky: As far as I'm aware, Higgins never used a tennis...

    As far as I'm aware, Higgins never used a tennis racket to win a game of snooker. McEnroe's bad temperedness always arose out of a sense of unfairness concerning the line decisions against him and...
  10. Sticky: But these are physical idiosyncrasies of...

    But these are physical idiosyncrasies of technique the players have found to be contingent with their optimum performance in carrying out the play itself. These things do not actually change the game...
  11. Sticky: Someone can have talent for sport. And they...

    Someone can have talent for sport. And they certainly are not thinking outside any boxes. They are not even using the box in new ways, simply playing whatever sport they are playing very, very well....
  12. Sticky: "Not necessarily synthesis. It can be a...

    "Not necessarily synthesis. It can be a heightened ability to see and create hierarchical patterns, for example, to qualify as some sort of "talent for composition". Or it can be a particular...
  13. Sticky: It's just occurred to me I may have been too...

    It's just occurred to me I may have been too quick to assert that talent has nothing to do with the ability to make art.
    I was thinking of talent relating to the ability to quickly acquire and hone...
  14. Sticky: That's an interesting point. Thinking about, it I...

    That's an interesting point. Thinking about, it I find that goes for me too. I rarely, if ever, use the terms talented or gifted to praise an exceptional artist.
    And thinking about why that is......
  15. Sticky: "There are people in this world who have an...

    "There are people in this world who have an indomitable proclivity towards arduous tasks. Once they set their mind to something, there is only "do". It has been there their entire lives. Very few...
  16. Sticky: Harbingerofillrepute. Two things: A work...

    Harbingerofillrepute. Two things:

    A work ethic, whether it is healthy or not, terrifying or not, is not the same thing as talent.
    And diligence, to whatever extremes it is taken, does not...
  17. Sticky: I think the main contestants in this thread are...

    I think the main contestants in this thread are in agreement as to the nature of talent as an aspect of brain function and therefore the reason for its unequal distribution among individuals.

    The...
  18. Sticky: Hey Foz3n, chill a little. My 'Christmas' jibe...

    Hey Foz3n, chill a little.
    My 'Christmas' jibe was a little below the belt. For the record, my beef wasn't with your opinions, but the disorganised way you expressed them. However, my high-minded...
  19. Sticky: What we perceive is contingent on the limitations...

    What we perceive is contingent on the limitations of our biological makeup. It goes without saying what this implies about our interface with external stimuli.

    As to your other points:
    Your post...
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    Skills have nothing to do with the quality of the...

    Skills have nothing to do with the quality of the art we produce, only the effectiveness of our facility to bring it forth if it is ready to be realised.
    The museums of the world have basements...
  21. Sticky: If we "saw" them with something other than our...

    If we "saw" them with something other than our eye (I dunno, maybe a full electromagnetic spectrum, 360 degree sensor), would that make them a superior copy?
    And what do you mean by "what we believe...
  22. Sticky: Bill: I disagree with that JA article on the...

    Bill: I disagree with that JA article on the following point:
    I don't think the exceptional 'giftedness' of an individual produces art that changes the way we see the world. It is rather an...
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    This is clearer as to what is happening and who...

    This is clearer as to what is happening and who is fighting who. So points for that! :)
    The glaring problems that should be fixed even before you put a wash over it are:
    1). The far arm of the guy...
  24. Sticky: My mum kept a notebook of hers that I scribbled...

    My mum kept a notebook of hers that I scribbled in as a one year old.
    But she has drawings I made at five of sailing ships and trains that are in full-blown perspective.
    And I remember my first...
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    Vanvanmar, you are asking the deepest and most...

    Vanvanmar, you are asking the deepest and most important question here. And your arriving at the point of understanding that means you can begin to formulate it is no mean feat. So take heart.
    The...
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