what pet shpuld i get?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!??!!!!?!?!??!?

[SkaR]

Ok, so ive never really had a REAL ( please look at my last post) pet before. You know i had the two goldfish when i was like four, one ate the other one, it eventually died, we flushed it down the toilet, you know. but now it seems after summer break, i might be getting a new pet (by might i mean i have to look at my final grades first, to see i have good grades which i should but you never know). but heres the thing. Im allergic to cats, my dad is allergic to dogs, my mom doesnt want any lizards or bugs (wat a surprise right?:er:). And i dont like birds. not trying to hate against any bird owners out there i just dont like birds, there not my thing. And finally i just recently figured out that ferrets, a pet that ive dreamed and wanted to have so badly (other than a german shepard) is illegal in my state (california). so im narrowed down to hamsters(ive had two so...), rabits, guinea pigs, gerbils,(i dont like rats ans mice) and im not so sure if chinchillas are alowed in california or not....... so im not sure which one suits me. Im 15, i have 6 hrs a school a day, all i do when i come home is draw and play guitar so i have a lot of free time on my hands. I want a playful pet, but i dont want him to be so hyper its like hes on crack(:$ ) and my budget 50-60$ MAX (not for everything but for the pet alone). any response will be much appreciated:teeth:

[Craig D]

but im to lazy



If you are lazy, have no experience with most pets, can't get many due to above restrictions anyway, and are maybe a little scattered.

Then please, just skip the pet idea

[megadubitably]

hermit crab, they're pretty fun

[Caskin]

Weeellllll....... sounds like you've kind of just eliminated everything right there. This is something to be dedicated to, so only start looking when you know you're geniunely ready.

Each kind of pet you've listed has it's pros and cons.... I'm more partial to reptiles myself (I mean c'mon! they don't stink, they don't bark, they take up pratically no space, they come in gorgeous colors, they don't need to be walked or watched 24/7, they don't shed, they don't induce allergies, and some can get quite tame) but you mentioned something to interact with, these guys take a sort of special understanding I guess.

You mentioned Chinchilla, if they interest you go ahead and find out if they're legal where you live! I've heard these guys can be quite playful, and a fun, interactive pet.

Otherwise... all I have to say is get off your lazy bum and do a google search! XD.... I think the sites for Petsmart or Petco may have a "what pet is right for you" kind of thing. So go check them out.

If you do ever settle on a pet you want to buy.... then get onto google and do a search for care sheets. Research until your brain hurts, there is loads of valuable information from breeders and such that could save you time, effort, and even money.

(when I'm bored, I look up care sheets in my spare time, so if you have any questions I'd be plenty willing to supply what answers I have)

[kovah]

If you are going to get a small rodent - get a rat better get 2.
At the end of the day they are big hamsters with tails who - if you handle them properly from an early age.
Will rarely if ever bite even if you wake them up
Can learn their name and simple tricks (mine learned how to open their cage door and all i had to do was sit their and call their name and they came back - though there are now padlocks on the door since there is a cat in the house)
They can be taught to use a litter tray - so are easier to clean out.

I have had hamsters and gerbils before and rats are so much better as a pet i am suprised more people dont have them.

[Brendan N]

After pirates 3 I am completely set on getting my own undead monkey.
How bout a gorilla? Would you like that? mmm?

EDIT: I see you like to add countless question and exclamation marks to sentences. try to resist that urge ;)

[|NTeRN]

i have 3 crested geckos, and i will say hands down they are the chillest lizards ive ever had. i know your mom said no lizards, but see if you can turn her around on this one.

cresteds are arboreal lizard (live in trees) and are nocturnal (good for artists cause im sure most of us here are night owls)

they are very easy to handle, and often will just chill on your hand or arm. some can be more spazzy, depends on the gecko. 2 are min, 1 im taking care of for a friend, of my 2, i have one that super relaxed, the other used to be very jumpy, but is calming down a bunch.

they dont run around like most lizards, but they can climb fast, and are very good at jumping. tho with the jumping its easy to see when they will jump and to where the "plan on going"

both of mine are are still very young, one is only about 3 months old, the other is maybe 6-7 months old.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/intern1/newgeck005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/intern1/annapics003.jpg

cresteds are also very soft feeling, not scale like or slimy.

the best thing about them is the upkeep. 1 crested will do good in a 20 gallon tank, temps need to be about 70-75 (try not to go more or less ) so the average room tempurate in fine (no heat pads or lamps needed unless you live in a really cold area). (i live in san diego so the weather he is perfect) they eat tropical fruit (banana, mango, guava ect just not citrus) but better yet you can buy a pre-made meal in power form can crested gecko diet thats not only a complete diet, they actually like it too. so no need to always buy a lot of fruits or any insects.

you can usually find cresteds for anywhere from 45-65 bucks, along with a 20 gallon tank (anywhere from 20-80 bucks) food (4oz bottles will last you about 3-4 months and cost $5) and tank decorations (logs, fake vines about 10-20 bucks) and its not too much money.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/intern1/newgeck004.jpg

and some random pics of them (not mine)

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u218/LACHERPS/Rhacodactylus/Ciliatus/creamflamefemalesm.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p275/crankybeach/firefly_is_not_dinner.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p275/crankybeach/geico_toes.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Misskiwi67/Crested%20Gecko/darkharley2.jpg

[Grumbledook]

a rock

[moroi]

Hey, I used to raise/breed chinchillas. They are legal in California (there are some good ranchers out there last I knew). Anyways, I'd recommend a big "NO" on the idea. A cheap one will run you around $75 with prices increasing according to color and quality (the "cheap" ones are grey). They aren't exactly "cuddly" animals, they chew up EVERYTHING (including floor & walls), and many can be very skittish unless properly trained and socialized.

EDIT: Just wanted to add, a chinchilla can easily live 12+ years (the longest I knew of was one at 30). Do you know what you'll be doing 10 years down the road? I'd go with a rat. They're much more trainable/intelligent and the life span is shorter (not that it's a good thing, it's just you aren't having to imagine loooooong term commitments).

[SkaR]

If you are lazy, have no experience with most pets, can't get many due to above restrictions anyway, and are maybe a little scattered.

Then please, just skip the pet idea

i was just joking:) no ive been looking all over the web and ive been reaserching this but every time i look up something like "what pet should i get?". no matter wat i put, the website is gonna say, "hamsters make great pets!" or "Guinea pigs are the best for you!" so im ready to commit and work hard to own the pet, i just wanted to get some actual opinions and suggestions that can assist me in my situation. but i do see where your coming from though:)

[smugbug]

Haha, first option for you is a stuffed toy. :D

Buuuuttt, seein' we (my bf and I), have: two dogs, two cats and four parrots - and a sweeet prairie dog use to also be a part of our family. She passed on a few years ago....PDs make great pets, btw. But I doubt you could have one now.

Anywhoos, check out sugar gliders. There's a page online dedicated to one named, "Face Hugger"; which is a perfect name. Heh. Their jumps are accurate up to 100-feet and they like to hang out in your shirt pocket. I've always wanted one so I could chuck at the face of a unsuspecting visitor. Hehehe. Kidding.

There is an online forum about 'em: Sugarglider.com (http://www.sugarglider.com/)

Here's a pic:
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[wild thing]

How could anyone say no to an adorable leopard gecko? They're great. It's a shame they're not more interactive though. Lloyd will put up with me for a few minutes but then he'll get all squirmy.

I second the rat idea. They make great pets. They're easy to find, they're inexpensive, they're not too noisy, and they're too damn cute. Look them up, the internet has everything you could ever need. Try googling 'rat care' or 'rats as pets'. EDIT: Nevermind, you said you didn't like them. I'd suggest guineas pigs, but I've never really looked them up.

But yeah, you don't want a hyper pet and you wanted a ferret? That would have ended badly.

[Steph Laberis]

Skar, if you do want a pet, I would narrow your search with some of the suggestions in this thread and google up some online groups of pet enthusiasts. Find forums about lizards, hamsters, etc. and read first-hand the types of problems people encounter with each kind of pet. Most pet forums have a medical section where you can see how people deal with emergencies, medications and care... the unpleasant but mandatory side of caring for an animal.

But, I'm gonna vote NO with the rat idea. Couple of reasons:

1.) Even if a rat is housed with another rat, they still require at least an hour a day of time out of the cage and human interaction. Even if you were joking about being lazy, you can't just stick your rats in a corner of the house and toss food between the bars of the cage every so often.

2.) Rats are NOT cheap. They will inevitably need to go to the vet, just because an animal cost you $6 and is small doesn't exempt it from the same health care like your dog or cat would receive. All pet rats are prone to respiratory infections and some will require regular doses of antibiotics, especially if they came from a chain pet store. Each vet visit with meds cost me $80 a go. Female rats have a tendency to grow mammary tumors - 2 of my 6 rats have had them and one has had them removed twice so far. Each operation was upwards of $300. Then there was the abscess fiasco and the lost eye, which cost upwards of $1200...

I step in because a lot of people consider rats and "pocket pets" a novelty or a good starter pet. They're not people, they're just not...

Edit: Oh, can we see some art soon, Skar? ;)

[SkaR]

thanks for the input guys, i still would like some suggestions though, however... INTeRN, i think thats what i want, my mom thinks its not that bad of an idea, so im probably gonna get a crested gecko, does anybody know where i could get one? (i dont know well actually i doubt that they have them at like petsmart, or petco but i dont know)
oh and answering steph Laberis's question, yeah im probably gonna start a sketcbook soon

[wild thing]

A lot of breeders can sell crested geckos. There's also reptile expos and other fun things. They aren't very uncommon. You'll also want to read up on their care, if I remember correctly they aren't as straight forward as say bearded dragons, or leopard geckos. And kingsnake.com has a live reptile chat you can ask around in. Those guys are pretty knowledgeable, I haven't been in quite a while though.

Whatever path you take, be sure to take as much time as possible looking into proper care, I've heard far too many careless people making bad decisions.

[|NTeRN]

they have them at petco. an d i know most people are anti petco, but petco gets their geckos from a guy named allen repashy (who is also the creater of the powered food)

send me a pm and i can give ya more info if you want.

[CaptainInsano]

snake

[Inkfish]

Get a tawny Frogmouth. If you stray from the path this little fellow will fuck your shit up, seriously look at it...
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7275/00113austawnyzc9.jpg

[corky13]

husky-rats are cool. And i personally like cats because they have their own mind somehow ;)

But I , like Grumbledook , would suggest a rock. Seriously , every pet will take time and devotion. If you are not sure if you have both then let it be. Might wanna start with some plants ?

[monstertree]

I'd say go for a couple of stick insects. I had fun keeping them, then they had hundreds and hundreds of babies which i sold to friends at school ;)

[bunny]

But I , like Grumbledook , would suggest a rock. Seriously , every pet will take time and devotion. If you are not sure if you have both then let it be. Might wanna start with some plants ?

Yeah, I dunno man. If you're "too lazy" to do some basic research into what kind of pet you want, I'm not so sure what kind of pet owner you'd be. I don't know you personally, I'm not attacking you, I'm just saying that it really pisses me off when people just walk into the pet store and pick something up because it's cheap/cool/whatever and don't care to research how to take care of it. Seriously.

[Mr Man]

Why not have a pickled pet? You dont have to clean them, walk them, feed them and you can neglect them for long periods of time.

Bert my octopus (or Mr pickle) doesnt like to stray too far from his Kenco coffee jar :)

[smugbug]

Yeah, I dunno man. If you're "too lazy" to do some basic research into what kind of pet you want, I'm not so sure what kind of pet owner you'd be. I don't know you personally, I'm not attacking you, I'm just saying that it really pisses me off when people just walk into the pet store and pick something up because it's cheap/cool/whatever and don't care to research how to take care of it. Seriously.

I'm with you on that. Believe it or not, people do this with parrots. When we use to live in Portland, we'd spend a day hopping to/from a couple of bird shops (there were two really good ones). Even though we had a few parrots ourselves, we just love parrots and like to "visit" the ones in shops.

Just about everytime we were in one, there'd always be a family or a couple in there, thinking that parrots would be cool to have around. And the general plus for them was that you put 'em in a cage and that would be it. I don't know how many times I've had to hold my tongue with people like this.

In our house, our "pets" are family. They spend time with us, we hang with our furry/feather members of the house.

Aw hell, I'm totally digressing. Sorry. Sensitive subject with me. :blahblah: :S

[SkaR]

ok guys please please please listen. i deleted that whole im to lazy thing, im really sorry if i offended anybody or anything ok? please listen I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT PET IS RIGHT FOR ME PLEASE DO NOT WORRY IM NOT GOING TO GO INTO A PET STORE, BUY SOME PET AND ABUSE IT.
please please please note my previous response:i was just joking no ive been looking all over the web and ive been reaserching this but every time i look up something like "what pet should i get?". no matter wat i put, the website is gonna say, "hamsters make great pets!" or "Guinea pigs are the best for you!" so im ready to commit and work hard to own the pet, i just wanted to get some actual opinions and suggestions that can assist me in my situation. but i do see where your coming from though

Trust me ive been researching it for the past like 3 days and plan to research it almost all of summer! (if im getting him/her, im getting him/her after summer.) I ensure you, im not a bad person, im not just gonna get a gecko, THROUGH HIM IN A GLASS BOX AND JUST LET HIM STARVE TO DEATH!:xpld: SO PLEASE DONT WORRY!

[Brendan N]

yeah I think you need something that can sustain itself, like a rock ... or ... or mold. mold is pretty much free too. just keeps growing, you can start it off on a loaf of bread. just smells like sty cleaner with a phobia of soap and water. :P

[Elwell]

http://www.growafrog.com/

[m@.]

Elwell.. :nohope: :}

[timpaatkins]

Trust me ive been researching it for the past like 3 days and plan to research it almost all of summer! (if im getting him/her, im getting him/her after summer.) I ensure you, im not a bad person, im not just gonna get a gecko, THROUGH HIM IN A GLASS BOX AND JUST LET HIM STARVE TO DEATH!:xpld: SO PLEASE DONT WORRY!

Wow three whole days?
Seriously though, when I got my green iguana and my two savahanna monitors ( i also had 2 beautiful leopard geckos) my dad told me "sure, research it for six months, and if you still want one, then we will see what we can do..." Still wanted them after that time. (Well, initially I wanted a snake, but thansk to the 6 months of research i realised that iguanas was more my cup o tea)

The reason me and other herp enthusiasts are wary about people getting reptiles as pets is that we know how many kids become bored with them after a few months, and these babys can live for years.

Oh yea, when your mom finds out you need to feed the geckoes crickets and various insects, everey few days (meaninng you need to house them somewhere too) maybe she'll have second thoughts. acidentally starting a cricketcolony in the basement is no fun.

[Costau D]

acidentally starting a cricketcolony in the basement is no fun.

And, noisy as hell...

I own a water dragon. To sum it up, they are like iguanas only they get to about 4 feet (mostly tail), and still require a lot of space and height. I didnt bother puting it in a vivarium, way to expensive. I got a mesh net cage. Also since they are trpoical and live near rivers where it's very humid, you dont need as much light as say a bearded dragon does. They mostly live in trees their whole lives, so you really dont have to have much water, just enough so they can soak their whole body in. Plus they are easy as hell to clean after, you just empty a water bowl and fill it back up again after you clean it extensively.

I don't reccomend you get one. Costs quite a bit of money to take care of, and even though it will eat about anything, you have to switch it up a bit. Mine mostly likes King worms and lettuce. Also to note, a lot of the pet shops that have them are usually wild caught. So the first day you get one, it probably wont eat, or it will go insane with the change of environment and smash into the glass trying to get out. You just have to have it get use to you, and try force feeding it a bit. Takes months for one to get use to you so eventually you'll be able to let it runa round and will climb on things or relax somewhere, sometimes sit on your shoulder, etc.

[Caskin]

And, noisy as hell...

Even worse when they get loose in the kitchen...

I want to add to the vote of getting a Crested Gecko... I don't own one yet myself (I have 3 Leopard Geckos), but I know people who do, and from what I've heard they just might be the easiest reptile to own. They don't require special light or heat which is a big plus, they eat mostly that Crested Gecko Diet with some calcium dusted crickets on the side, just make sure they have fresh water, plenty of places to hide, and they'll do just fine.

And it's so hard to resist those grinning faces :).

[Elwell]

Also to note, a lot of the pet shops that have them are usually wild caught.
Which, in and of itself, is a pretty good reason not to get one.

[That fat kid]

Get a virus. I hear they're cheap.

[bunny]

When I was 5-6 years old, my dad bought me a 6 foot male iguana and set it loose in my room as a b-day present. It beat the shit out of me! True story.

Oh, and I think you should get sea monkeys.

[timpaatkins]

And, noisy as hell...



Mine mostly likes King worms and lettuce.



I hope to god that you are giving him a more varied diet than this? Both are very low nutrition wise. Lettuce is basically water and traces of macronutirents and the king mealworms is one of the lowest on the insect/nutrition list. crickets are a much better choice here, but lettuce is not a pillar of a healthy semiherbevoirous lizard.

Are you giving him vitamin supplements in the water/dousing the insects with a calcium additive? They need ultraviolet light once a week for 20 min at least (special bulb/tube in the pet supply store and usually MUCH more expensive than a regular onemine cost about 80 bucks) as not to develop bonedisease (soft and malformed bones) but also a good calcium additive can help (not too much though, it can kill them)

Please tell me you know about this stuff?

Oh yea, dont get anything wildcaught. Most likley full of parasites and stressed out as hell, not to mention i think its still illegal?
captive bred is the best way to go.

[Costau D]

I use a calcium supplement, and I do have UV light on the cage. I bring it out to the porch once every day for it to run around and get some sun. Like I said I always try to vary the portions. It will eat crickets, and some fruit as well, but there are times it leaves it alone and wont eat those things. Waterdragons can have personal tastes for things, all I was saying was that it likes lettuce and King Worms more. Mine is a female, and I don't know if I should try feeding it a pinky as a treat once and a while.

One thing though, water dragons live in heavily forested areas. The UV it needs is not as much compared to an iguana, but I still try to give it as much as I can. I live in Florida, so the temperature always stays around 70-90, ofcourse not including times during winter in which I use an extra but lower wattage heating bulb. Thank you for your concern though, and you can relax. Don't worry I do my studies as well. And, not everything has to be absolute perfect conditions, it's impossible to do unless you have a lot of time on your hands. I just try to keep it going, and not make its life too repetitive each day so I try to change things up a bit. I handle it as often I can, and feed it what it needs. It hasn't gotten brown yet, and the marks on its snout from a while back ahve healed up. I had to tape up the sides of the aquarium, sucks lizards dont know the concept of glass :P.

This is where I get a lot of my info. http://www.triciaswaterdragon.com/dragoncr.htm

About the wild caught. You never will really know. I checked it before I got one and it didnt seem to ahve any problems, and was pretty calm when brought home. Thing is I still had my doubts it wasn't. It seems to be doing fine so far. At night I still house it in an aquarium about 4x2, I know it's small but it's only temporary for the night, it can get cold out.

Anyway here's some photos from not long ago of it. The reason the skin on the snout looks dry and out of place, is because when I got it, it didnt have enough water or humidity to help it shed properly. Sucks I had to learn that the hard way.

[timpaatkins]

phew!
Shes beautiful man, and im glad you got it all down, and yea we learn from our mistakes!
Like now I know not to sit in front of the comp without a shirt on during the summer, lest you want your 5 foot iguana with untrimmed claws pounce on you from the bed and scramble up to your head.
Yup,
"Mom, can you get some rubbing alcohol?" and bite down on a stick...

Ohh yea, and Popeye (his namne) LOVED the kings too, he went absoulutley nuts for them, thats why I inquired to a specialist about them, so he only got them as a treat. He was scared shitless about crickets though, ran the other direction.

He was really great, used to know that he wasnt allowed in the rest of the house, ( my room was his domain though, he had a huge terrarium built in to the wall, with one door open at all times) so when my mom used to clean upstaris, hed get out and sit and wait by the door beteween my room and the rest of the upstairs. hed look at me/my mom until we motioned for him to get out, and then hed do it! crazy kid he was.
He dide of cancer unfortunately, had a tumor about 2 and a half inces long. He was quite tame though, towards me and my mum (and my gf for some reason)

[Costau D]

I've been wanting to let mine out in the house, or my room anyway. Too afraid it might mess with wires or something. Sorry to hear about your lizard man. Sucks i cant get an enclosure as complex as the one you have, but I live in an appartment and I'm gonna be moving quite a bit.

When i first got the lizard though, I admit I thought all they did was run on instinct. It's funny though, give them a while and they just have personalities of their own. And I was surprised to find out that it can learn more complex things than i originally assumed. Oh the lizards name is Ruby btw (Was watching The Hills Have Eyes at the time).

[timpaatkins]

yea man they can get in to some tight spots. I once found him wedged between the wall and my bookcase, flat as a pancake. Unfortunatley they arent too bright, and what seems good idea at the time, results in them getting cold and too tired to move again. So make sure you keep an eye on her all the time, and that you have no holes or any other crannies she can get in to without you being able to get her free again. And yea, he used to tear down EVERYTHING, especially my moms plants (duh!) and all sorts of stuff attached to chords. If they get unlucky theyll get a lamp on top of them, and that wont be much fun.

[wild thing]

Man, I'm glad Lloyd isn't that much trouble. One time he got under the couch, but that was remedied quick. I'm still paranoid about grabbing him anywhere near the tail though. I got him from a friend of my brother, and at the time he was really undernourished and his terrarium was full of silica sand. Got a great deal though, and he's doing much better now. (:

I was thinking of upping him to a 25-30 gal. and adding a pair of lady friends for him. That or a getting a ball python. There's quite a few breeders in the area and the herp expo that comes by every few months.

[SkaR]

.........OK........ I need to clarify something. By a real pet, im mean a REAL pet. Ive had sea monkeys like 4 fish, and 2 hamsters in my little life time.
Every time I got a pet, my dad told me he WASNT gonna take care of it and if it died because of my lack of resonsibility, that was MY fault.
My sea monkeys... I got those like when i was 2 so i dont remember much (exept for being dissapointed)
The first fish i got was a gold fish, then i got a second one one gold fish ate another gold fish, i tell you about it up there.
I got two male beta fish (dont worry i put them into two different tanks) when i was 8. One of them (name was sumo) died of disease because of tank mold. So i realized my mistake and my fuck up of not cleaning my tank the right way, or not a enough. that fish that I had that died from the mold lasted a year.
However the other fish i had I took better care of because i then knew i had to get my shit together got off my little ass and actually take care of the fish.
that other beta fish lasted 4 years, i think it died of old age.
ok my two hamsters.
I got them when i was 10
They were both golden hamsters.
I had two different cages for them (both were male)
i got them at the same time and they lived (in my opinion) nice happy lives.
I had tubes and a wheel in bothcages so they could exersise. i cleaned there cage every four days (my parents did not make me) I took them out every night every now and then (my research told me they were nocturnal) and i played with them. i eventually saved up enough allowance (i used to get 2 bucks a week) to buy them one of those balls you put them into so they can run around. I would watch the ball chasing it making sure it wouldnt fall or anything ( you know like go down the stares) it seemed like they loved sunflower seeds so i made sure what ever mix i got it had sunflower seeds.
Patches (one of the hamsters) died at about three years old (well i had him for 3 years)
and otis died a year before at two years old.
the reason i say a REAL pet is because i want a pet thats more responsibility than a hamster.
thats wat i considered a real pet. so when i say i nver had a REAL pet before, i mean ive never had something thats more responsibility, real responsibilty.

[Costau D]

"I think you should get a black King Cobra, and put it around your shoulders..."

[JL.Alfaro]

two words...
WILD CHINCHILLA.
'nuf said.

[Mr Man]

Termites, let them loose in your house :)

[wild thing]

And what we are saying is you take our suggestions and look those up. If you like the idea of a crested gecko, look it up, see if its right, if not, move on.

[Costau D]

You could always get a prarie dog... Then you will be able to witness what it's like to have an animal that is sexually frustrated for half the year every year.

[SkaR]

"I think you should get a black King Cobra, and put it around your shoulders..."

...yeah i dont think so:[

[wild thing]

With a venomous snake that can grow longer than you are tall... Well, that's more responsibility than most people can handle.

[Costau D]

...yeah i dont think so:[

This kid can do it... I don't care if it is defanged.

6vXa_B_uMVk

[SkaR]

oh dude i saw that thats crazy

[Caskin]

the reason i say a REAL pet is because i want a pet thats more responsibility than a hamster.
thats wat i considered a real pet. so when i say i nver had a REAL pet before, i mean ive never had something thats more responsibility, real responsibilty.

Well now that makes more sense!

Ok, what we have so far... no hamsters..... and no fish

But yeah, you liking any of the reptile suggestions so far? such as a Crested Gecko? There are plenty of other kind of geckos and reptiles that make great pets as well.

Had anything piqued your interest so far?

[guggemmaneuver]

heh, that cobra video gave me quite the start :)

unrelated: i had a dream last night where there were these black rats in my apartment, and everyone was going ballistic. each new one kept getting progressively larger and larger until there was a jack-rabbit sized black rat spazzing out in the middle of the floor.

gotta love dreams for some crazy randomness.

and i know ya said you're allergic but.... i've got a really sweet-natured black lab who's been a great companion for the past 3-4 years. smart dog, playful, lays right by my feet (against if possible) while i'm slaving away at the drawing table.

Rosco makes these weird meow-ish yelps when he hears an unexpected sound of a door opening or one of the trains outside. sometimes when i play my synth he'll howl along in a very out of tune but adorable kind of way.

gug

[Candra]

By the way you type, you shouldnt have a pet.

[Costau D]

I dunno. Skar you don't seem to me like the reptile type, but more of a mammal person. What about a cat, ferret, dog, Chinchilla, Hedge Hog (if it's legal in your state), or something else?

And adding on to Candras post. Don't treat a pet like it's a product or experiment no matter how primitive you may think it is. Always treat it like family.

[timpaatkins]

This kid can do it... I don't care if it is defanged.

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"Dont fucking touch me you stupid bitch! Ill give you one of THESE"" powpow... "wtf? I hope my bro's gets hold of you and your family..."

poor snake

And thats the worst about being a herp lover... EVERY time i start looking at the little buggers my mind goes
"Well maybe I could just get one right now....even though I live in a shoebox in manhattan"

Argh they are addictive!

[wild thing]

Hedgehog, that's a cool idea. But if you do decide on one of those, for the love of god don't name it Sonic.

Too bad you don't like birds, they've got a lot of character and are more work than a hamster. Really smart and all cute and stuff too. Unless it's my bird, he's just a jerk. ):

[SkaR]

By the way you type, you shouldnt have a pet.

what do you mean?

[JAG.]

you want responsibility?? get one of these..

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8458/mogwaitvqg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

only problem is.. "mogwai not for sale." :[ - JAG

[Caskin]

And thats the worst about being a herp lover... EVERY time i start looking at the little buggers my mind goes
"Well maybe I could just get one right now....even though I live in a shoebox in manhattan"

Argh they are addictive!

Haha! I know that feeling! I never would have taken myself to fall to the reptile bug, but it's just something that can't be explained I guess.

Such as I got me an incurable itch for a kenyan sand boa at the moment, or a ball python, or an anery corn snake, or a limburgh's albino rosy boa, or an albino nelson's milk snake, or a.... or a.... or maybe a......... :xpld:

(We need a herp lovers thread)

[Elwell]

Here you go:
http://www.neopets.com

[wild thing]

Haha! I know that feeling! I never would have taken myself to fall to the reptile bug, but it's just something that can't be explained I guess.

Such as I got me an incurable itch for a kenyan sand boa at the moment, or a ball python, or an anery corn snake, or a limburgh's albino rosy boa, or an albino nelson's milk snake, or a.... or a.... or maybe a......... :xpld:

(We need a herp lovers thread)

We really should have a post your herps thread or something. Could be fun.

You know what else I've got a hankering for? Hogg Island Boa. They change colours! Apparently a very easy keep too.

[Steph Laberis]

Ok SkaR, since this is an art forum, it's time to go draw something.

Closed.