AUGUST SP THREAD BABY...here we go again

[keyth]

ya' know...i've noticed a trend in some of my portraits lately. and DURACEL pointed it out once....i checked out one of android's portraits many months ago. it was one where he worked a portrait off one of coro's or manley's techniques. what he did was block in the major shape of the face in a dark sienna and then brought out all the colors on top of it. i've been doing this for sometime but....i'm doing something wrong. everything always ends up looking a little burnt or "dark".

i would love some advice from some peeps.

anyways....on to AUGUST.

ps. my birthday is tomorrow (the 2nd:p )

keep'em com'n folks!!!!!!!!!

http://members.fortunecity.com/keyth/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/July_29_2003.JPG

[hed|lamb]

http://hedlamb.ice.org/tmp/jul01gspotd.jpg

Moving this here, from the July Gspotd, since it's for the 1st. Bleh.

edit: Seriously? Heh, so is mine. 23yrs, almost dead. O___o

[Hermchen]

I share!

http://home.arcor.de/hermchen/postingstuff/selfportraits/1.8.2003.jpg

[DraigAthar]

keyth - not sure what to suggest, because I seem to have that same problem myself. You might try using some cooler colors are you're painting, or lighten the whole thing up when you're done by tweaking the levels or something. I dunno.

hed|lamb - 23? Jesus you make me feel old. :(

Hermchen - looks good, but you'd better fix that posture or you'll be a hunched over old man eventually. ;)

[Hermchen]

Damn, and I wondered why does my back hurt. Looks like I am a hunched over young man actually -> 21 years. Birthday on 23rd of Sebtember. Oh my.

[DraigAthar]

Damn, all you whippersnappers ... ya make me feel like an old lady at 30. :rolleyes:

Oh, and I forgot to say, your portrait looks good, well done. :)

[Erik Hageman]

http://www.digitalabsinthe.com/art/portrait4.jpg

i'm not sure which of android's portraits or what technique in general you are trying to incorporate into your stuff. but i would suggest using more color and more saturated color in general. not at all like my painting, but just using flecks of complimentary hues to get more depth and variety. your portrait is pretty monochromatic. i really have to force myself not to work that way though i know that is the scheme in a lot a lot of concept work, especially what i see on this board.

i start pretty much every piece now with a sienna background and just build other colors on top, trying to let the sienna show thru in good spots.

erik

hit my site (http://www.digitalabsinthe.com)

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/daily%20portrait/8-03/8-1.jpg

Keyth,

I agree with Erik, you don't have enough saturated color. You tend to stick with warm/brownish colors. Try using cool colors, such as blues and greens, for shadows. Warm colors for highlights.

Also, It is very important to work all over your paintings; you focus on the face too much, and neglect your backgrounds. Negative space is equally impotant. Figure and space go hand and hand together. In order to render your portrait as true as possible, you must compare it to the space around it. Use More dimension in your backgrounds could be nice.

Another thing, try using a middle/nuetral tone background. Try a grey or burnt sienna background.

:chug:

[DraigAthar]

Went back to my good old sketchbook today. Another partial self-portrait.

http://thirdroar.com/dj/2003-08/dj066-nosemouth.jpg

[clayrodery v.03]

holy hell, i haven't posted here in like forever, or rather, 2 months. getting ready for college leaves little free time i guess. ok, here we go:

http://www.cox-internet.com/crasheternia/clayrodery/selfport.jpg

later,

clay

[Silvrain]

http://silvrain.s5.com/pencilwork.jpg

I actually broke out a pencil and a mirror for this one. I need to get back into the habit of natural media, and work on not.. spot shading. I'll see if I can't rework this in Painter or something.

Try as I might, I couldn't get the other half of my face to even resemble something symmetrical. So I scrapped it. Reminds me of that one artist... can't remember his name, but he'd only capture one half of a frontal view of his sketch subjects. 3/4s is so much easier to work off of.. gah.

[hed|lamb]

http://hedlamb.ice.org/tmp/tyme.jpg

Experimenting this morning, nothing worthwhile. I'll comment on our conversation about age, as soon as I get back, today started off in a hurry. [Aug.2]

Influenced heavily by Erik, obviously.

[Blackhawk]

http://members.cox.net/blackhawk9/spod/spod189.jpg

[HellTaxi]

a quick one after work...
http://www.helltaxi.hostrocket.com/sp080103%20copy.jpg

[DraigAthar]

Erik - you look good in blue. ;)

clayrodery - have fun at college!

silvrain - I have the same problem, for me it's the eyes. I can never line them up straight on a frontal portrait. Oh well, more practice, I guess!

Blackhawk - you look like you need a nap. :)

Oh, and I love seeing all you guys with the facial pierces. :)

[thomasaurus]

keyth: happy birthday! how old are ya?

its time I showed something, as crappy as it is.

I know mods are gonna hate me for this, but Im sorting out my hosting problem soon, so i need to use deviantart.

First SP (http://www.deviantart.com/view/2587037)

I did this using my dad's rearview mirror and a ballpoint pen during our camping trip.

[Erik Hageman]

hed|lamb i really dig your second piece. it's a pretty cool world, i see shit happening everywhere. it also has a 28 days later feel to it.

my main prob with my own digi painting is that i lose the spontenaity, something about the fake look of the materials that just begs me to keep working it till it looks more legit. i'll try one and stop it early.

blackhawk very cool eyeballs.

[clayrodery v.03]

Blackhawk: i love your stuff, you never cease to make me extreamely jealous :)

new spin on an old sp. i'm really bored

http://www.cox-internet.com/crasheternia/clayrodery/matrixme.jpg

later,

clay

[hed|lamb]

http://hedlamb.ice.org/tmp/fucked.jpg

I am intoxicated as intoxicated can be, will try harder to paint tomorrow. Right now, I must sleep.

[Oblio]

:happybirt guys!
(The Deadline is upon me :( )

Oblio

[R_M]

conceptarts most underrated thread....

you will find none of that bigboobs&guns nonsense here, just plain old kick ass art.

[Bloodstone]

Gah, this one is beyond repair.

http://www.astralmatrix.net/bahn/Miri/fubar.jpg

[thomasaurus]

If it aint broke, dont fix it. :)

[Blackhawk]

Damn, so many great portraits this month guys, seriously, you are all kicking ass, don't slow down now.

http://members.cox.net/blackhawk9/spod/spod190.jpg

DraigArthur - I do need a nap, I need sleep badly period, but I can't sleep anymore. I'm either working, drawing, painting, or reading and studying art history, I can't sleep anymore. I'm like a hermit at this point, lol.

Erik - Thanks

Clay - Thanks, I appreciate it. Very cool SP BTW.

Bloodstone - Wonderful texture to this one, some of the color temperatures were out of whack though, but you had a great start going.

Hed - Very visceral and carnal SP's you've had the last week, I love them. I can't seem to mingle much emotion into mine, yours are oozing, very nice.

Hell - Nice work bud, keep them coming.

Have a great Tuesday guys and take it easy. Thanks for keeping this thread alive, this section was looking dead a month ago, but you guys and gals have been a great help, thanks.

[Jens]

blackhawk, may i ask, how many selfportraits have you done so far, because you seem to be busy for a long time as well

[fell]

i did a portrait of andrew, i guess i must post it here:

http://fellipe.com.sapo.pt/android.jpg

[I.was.ink]

Great job fellas, You guys have inspired me to start again. I'll post later.

Hawkprey, I just love your sp's.:D

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/daily%20portrait/8-03/8-5.jpg

Bloodstone- great painting. I love the soft shadows on the eyes and lips. Reminds me of Mark English's work.

Check out this demo: http://www.illustrationacademy.com/MarkDemo.html

[Bloodstone]

Adam Carnes - That demo is incredible! I don't see how my painting reminded you of his work though. Thanks so much for that link, that was really awesome.

Your last SP is looking great too. Watercolor?

[Adam Carnes]

yes, watercolor. your low contrast/definition in the eyes/lips/ears remind me of his work. not the marks.

[Android]

thank you fell,

i am flattered. you must have been tuned yourself into my wavelength.:)

BLACKHAWK i love how you are leting go, th eless you think about them the more honest your work will become

[Brain]

http://www.artofbrain.com/digital/self-4thaug.jpg

[Tomasis]

Whyy doesnt I look in painting as I want????
(after several attempts to draw one SP)

http://www.tomasis7.com/works/digital/sp/004.jpg

that is not which I try to draw propely without emotional sketch

[Blackhawk]

Andrew, I can't tell you how much it means to have you comment on my work. I don't think I would have improved as much as I've had or continued as long as I have if it wasn't for you. I'm dead serious about that too, in many ways you have changed my life for the better and I thank you for it. </gushy mode off>

http://members.cox.net/blackhawk9/spod/spod191.jpg

This one was a bit of a struggle. I think I need a punching bag in my room so when an SP or art piece goes wrong I can kick the crap out of something.

Jens - I've done a little over 200. I've done some that I haven't shown, keeping for my own thoughts, and some on traditional media that I haven't been around to scan yet. If I didn't slow down because of my new job last January, I'd be somewhere around 300 at this point. I'm trying to make up for it now.

I.was.ink - I'm assuming you meant Blackhawk instead of Hawkprey, in which case, thanks :D Now let's see you start up again.

Fell - Very nice, I'd love to see you offer us a portrait of you. You have incredible skill, I've always admired it.

Adam - Nice job, I wish you spent as much attention on the eyes as you had on the mouth and nose. I have the same issue myself, I love drawing the nose, it is the most interesting feature to me on the face, and my eyes have suffered a bit from it. Keep it up.

Brain - Nice sketch, you could probably benefit from a more unified hatching in your SP, experiment and try hatching along the form to help give it some pop. Seem how that goes. Keep it up.

Tomasis - First thing I would do if I was you is to kill the white background, introduce a tone to start, the absolute white will give some confusion to the values in my experience. Also this one could use a bit more contrast. The face form looks pretty good, the right cheek and lower chin need some more attention, as well as the hands, or that's what I think the brown and black markings are. One more thing, try to start off by using a larger brush before you get into the details. Using a large brush will help pull together different planes on the face before you dive in and muddle in the details. It'll make it an overall better SP technically. Now give us another.

[endregan]

blackhawk had to stop by and say: awesome. so unique and the textures are just wonderful. i dont know but to me, has a sort of old masters feel to it!!! Great!!

hmmm been out of the loop...will attempt to increase my painting skills and do some sp's...sorry guys. Will try and post again!

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/daily%20portrait/8-03/8-6.jpg

[pibb991]

quick one before work
http://www.echord.net/Aug7.jpg

blackhawk- you look pretty tough in that last one. very cool

[hed|lamb]

Going to try and jump back into this.

http://hedlamb.ice.org/tmp/muv-es.jpg

Bloodstone, you've nice facial structure. I wouldn't change a bit about that image, it shows lots of character in the strokes.

Blackhawk. those are great. I really like the second one.

Fell, Adam Carnes, everyone, very nice images.

[Oblio]

super quick, super stupid.
http://members.fortunecity.com/oblio/1Aug2k3.jpg
http://members.fortunecity.com/oblio/7aug2k3.JPG

ob :bash:

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/daily%20portrait/8-03/8-7.jpg

[clayrodery v.03]

quick 10 minute charcoal

http://www.cox-internet.com/crasheternia/clayrodery/charcoal.jpg

later,

clay

[nova]

great job everyone.. these are getting so interesting :)

it's marker day today.
http://www.geocities.com/putsthelotion/sp080703.txt

[I.was.ink]

Nova, I really like your sp. Very diff. depiction of yourself, when compared to everyone's sp.

Am I seeing your new avatar?;)

[Scratched Glass]

hey all havent posted in a few weeks. been busy moving apartments. did this one tonight. i have a headache.

http://www.intrepidwsd.com/dave/davesad.jpg

[hed|lamb]

Anniversary of graffiti art, I miss those days.

http://hedlamb.ice.org/tmp/graffiti.jpg

[R_M]

Ok, finally got myself togheter to post here...
the portraits here are amazing :D

this is my sp number 52 (of the pencil ones), the one below is a scan of the pencil one that I printed and worked on with pastels.
they are a 15colour set, and it is my 4rth attempt with them. I love them, but they are so hard to use! my colour theory is so fucked up though...have no idea what I am doing.

http://roberto.webconnect.dk/gfxgallery/sp52bis.jpg

[keyth]

man...there are a lot of good ports in here. i've been having a difficult time w/both drawing and painting lately...gett'n a little nervous.....

http://members.fortunecity.com/keyth/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/aug9_2003.JPG

[Blackhawk]

Keyth, same here brother. The last couple of days have been messed up for me. Nice SP's everyone.

[Adam Carnes]

scratched-interesting image

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/daily%20portrait/8-03/8-9.jpg

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/daily%20portrait/8-03/8-10.jpg

[CKWorth]

I've got a lot of respect for those of you who do this daily. It's really hard. This one took me all day. Didn't mean for it to, but I kept having trouble with it. I'm close to satisfied now. Must try again later.

http://www.spherenoire.com/forumart/wallflower001.jpg

[Blackhawk]

http://members.cox.net/blackhawk9/spod/spod192.jpg

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/daily%20portrait/8-03/8-11.jpg

[nova]

nice colors you three :) bravo

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/daily%20portrait/8-03/8-12.jpg

[J.Mac]

Well hello everyone!!

I must say i have been watching this place for awhile now like most people, and now I have summoned up enough courage to join and post.

First off great work everyone!

Here are my most recent sp. I have been in a slump for the past week but i am getting back to my normal self.

http://members.fortunecity.com/12jesse/sp8.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jbmaccabe/sp8.html

I am also sorry if this img post isn't working right. I don't have a website anymore right now. :(

One last thing, I don't know if Andrew reads these posts as often; but i must say thank you for insperation and dedication that you have given me. It has really helped me along the way. You have helped me so much I wrote an entry essay for AIB about what you have done for me..... and they really liked it. Oh yeah they also accepted me :D So Thank you for everything Andrew Jones!

-Jesse

[hed|lamb]

http://hedlamb.ice.org/tmp/mememe.jpg

[Blackhawk]

http://www.snitzerart.com/images/spod/spod193.jpg

[hed|lamb]

What is that Blackhawk, palette knife? Great expression.

http://hedlamb.ice.org/tmp/aug13_muv.jpg

Doing it early today,

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/daily%20portrait/8-03/8-13.jpg

hed|lamb- more contrast;darks. I see some style coming through.

Blackhawk-nice, but too much dead space at bottom

Turokess- great, but needs highlights

keyth- too vague; cloudy

R_M- monotone portrait has potential, try a different media for color work.

[Hermchen]

Good work everybody!

@hed|lamb: I like that style. I wish there where those little hot spots in your portraits. Points that you just have to look at all the time.

http://home.arcor.de/hermchen/postingstuff/selfportraits/13.8.jpg

[Duracel]

Damn good work everybody! ;)

Blackhawk, your eye-expression in the last one is again very very soul-stirring


http://www.duracel.de/stuff/art/paintings/self61.jpg

Headache while it is still very hot in my room direct under the roof this summer.

[jwo]

http://www.justinbrejwo.com/artx/081203selfport.jpg

[ilex]

http://www.botticeli.com/portraits/2003/08.13.03.jpg

started this one tonight. it's not finished yet but i'm posting it anyway because who knows when i'll be able to post again.

gj everyone. nice to see all the new faces (and the old ones: hi black hawk! )

[R_M]

http://roberto.webconnect.dk/gfxgallery/sp54.jpg
this one looks like me!

very inspiring thread people! I don't feel very confident on commenting on otherpeople SPs :D so please don't take it personal.

Blackhawk love yours! you make it look easy. it is kind of irritating.

Adam carnes thanks! your SP are funny, but that makes them a bit hard to judge. :D But the canvas background is a bit out of place on the blue hair one!

hed|lamb for some reason yours remind me of Mignola...don't ask

ilex I think your eyes are to big on the last one.

[Blackhawk]

http://www.snitzerart.com/images/spod/spod194.jpg

Hed - Yes, it is palette knife. I'm obsessed with it. I enjoy using brushes that have a grittier edge and sharpness to it. Painter 7 palette knife has that for me.
Great work, your last two have been raw. The only part bugging me on your current one is that the cheek became a bit flat. Nice work.

Adam - Thanks, the deadspace felt appropiate to me for the piece, thanks for the suggestion though, usually I don't even like leaving that much there. Nice SP, background feels a bit distracting though, I think it's the really heavy saturated yellow. Keep them coming bud, good to see your consistency.

Hermchen - Great work. The neck form looks a little odd, but the head is very spot-on. It's rare to see a smiling portrait, good to see you do one.

Duracel - Thanks Duracel, I appreciate the comment. Looks like lava is spewing out of your head :D. How is that heatwave going in Europe? You should visit Arizona sometime in the summer, it's a damn furnace down here right now, we are hitting record highs over here.

Jwo - Welcome, I see the Frankstein theme going on here. In my opinion, I would have softened the scar and brought more focus to the eyes. Right now it feels like the two are competing for attention, atleast to me. Keep them coming.

Ilex - Hey, how have you been? Good start, I still see you have those big beautiful eyes in your SP's. You need to stop by more often.

R_M - Thanks. Trust me, it isn't easy. I found it increasingly difficult the more and more I did it, which makes my respect for what Andrew has done even greater. It's difficult to keep it going, but it has it's exciting moments, which keeps me going. Plus I just love doing these now in general, the face is just exciting to me period.

Great looking SP, looks like a master's drawing, the left eye (Drawing's left, our right) looks like it's misplaced, it's throwing it off a bit. Keep working at it, and don't be afraid to comment, if you notice something weird or odd with an SP, mention it to the artist, we are here to help eachother out, plus it'll help you learn. Welcome.

[R_M]

Blackhawk/ that is freaky, your eyes remind me of gollums...big and dark, but the lips are amazing.

http://roberto.webconnect.dk/gfxgallery/sp54bwdigital.jpg
digital version

http://roberto.webconnect.dk/gfxgallery/sp54pastels.jpg
crappy pastel version

[Adam Carnes]

Sorry, no refining today.
http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/daily%20portrait/8-03/8-14.jpg

R_M- try limiting your pallette to only a couple colors. As you progress, build up to more colors. Also, your mark making seems to be a little heavy for the medium you are using.

Blackhawk- I would like to see more of the purple,maybe in the background and even a little more on the face. I like how you focus on the eyes, very intense.

ilex- coming along nicely, great crop/composition. I love how you draw the viewer right up to the top. Keep working on it. More darks in the bottom.

jwo- try using a dark color instead of black. Not many people can use black effectively in a color piece. When they do make black work, the pallete is usually very limited in color. Also, your portrait is very blury, more simutanious contrast(light against dark) in the face. The piece seems very undifined.

Hermchen- more contrast. It lacks highlights and darks. Very middletone. Watch your neck proportions, where the neck and shoulders meet. Alot of people neglect the neck and focus on the head. Both are equally important in giving the illusion of form.

[hed|lamb]

Thanks for all the crits, will try to work on all that was mentioned.

Today's, painted to Artist's Rendering of Me by Poison the Well.

http://hedlamb.ice.org/tmp/muv_arts.jpg

I used to have hair. =)

[otbot]

http://angelfire.com/emo/fairyboy0/spod081403.jpg

just getting back into doing these things

[SinisteR]

Here`s mine, just a link because the image is quite big and I`d hate for it to screw up the page.

Click anywhere on this sentence :P (http://a.domaindlx.com/PhoeniXX/2/211.jpg)

I thought I`d take an evasive maneuvre from my normal approach, because I got a tad bored after doing 3 of those already.

[benzo]

Wow! Its good to see some familiar faces still on this thread. You make me feel guilty since I haven't posted here for months! Keep up the good work, its very inspiring; if I ever see some of you in public I will probably recognize you....
http://www.bensprout.com/Aug12_Ports.jpg

[J.Mac]

This is good stuff here! Blackhawk and Hed|lamb your stuff inspires me alot. I wish i looked at your stuff before i did this not so good sp :mad: I usually do better than this, but i guess i can't do to much in 20 minutes either.

-Jesse

http://members.fortunecity.com/12jesse/sp10.jpg

[J.Mac]

Here is another off looking one .... grrr I don't know what is wrong with me lately

http://members.fortunecity.com/12jesse/sp11.jpg

[Duracel]

otbot, really good!


My personal "raindance" in these dry days:

http://www.duracel.de/stuff/art/paintings/self62.jpg

[sone_one]

great work everybody!

http://members.chello.at/sone_one/SP-02_1.jpg

[J.Mac]

I need to spend more time than i do on these sp's, I have a hard time slowing myself down. I tend to work fast and expect everything to look perfect, which as you can see that is not true at all.

Duracel - that is really cool how you did that sp, the whole thing works well.

sone_one - it is a floating head... hehe good work i like.

http://members.fortunecity.com/12jesse/sp12.jpg

So i am unhappy with myself portraits recently so i went and did this in painter 7 today. sigh i want out of this cold spell or what ever it is i am in.

http://members.fortunecity.com/12jesse/sp13.jpg

-jesse

[bupaje]

Wanted to do a caveman version of myself in 3D but skills aren't there yet. This is a 'caveman-ized' version of my head I did as a concept.

http://www.cavebrain.com/CaveBrain/terrain/cb1.jpg

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/daily%20portrait/8-03/8-18.jpg

[hed|lamb]

http://hedlamb.ice.org/tmp/oneweek.jpg

So much negative in life right now, that I can barely muster anything good to say. You guys keep me, with influence, hopefully soon, I am to show it.

[jhibbs]

hey everyone, for those of you who dont know me, i was doing SP's for several months, and im up to around 300. lost count long ago, and i think thats part of the beauty of it, this shouldnt be a race, contest, or number game, just an ongoing normal part of your life. after a few months its part of your routine.

to everyone else, i unfortunately had the first slump of my life a month and a half ago, and havent made really a single piece the entire time, including selfportraits. i could rattle off reasons for all of it, but i was probably just busy and lazy. after visiting this thread again today, i was again inspired to give it a shot. i was a bit scared id forget how these things work :P

blackhawk, good to see you again, and still hard at it. you never quit eh? i think youve been here the most consistently of anyone else. congrats.

hopefully i can jump right back in where i left off.....
http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/aug1.txt

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/daily%20portrait/8-03/8-19.jpg

I only tried using my left hand a few times before this piece but, never committed. Usually, it is discouraging. I learned a a lot about patience, line quality and self-discipline/concentration. I recommend everyone to push their limits and try using their opposite hand. This exercise reinforced the idea that, anything is possible.

[R_M]

They don't always look like me :(

http://roberto.webconnect.dk/gfxgallery/sp55.jpg

http://roberto.webconnect.dk/gfxgallery/sp56.jpg

[J.Mac]

When will one really look like me!

http://members.fortunecity.com/12jesse/sp14.jpg

-Jesse

[Blackhawk]

Benzo, Jhibbs, wow, it's good to see you guys again, how have you 2 been?

Sorry, I've been out of it the last few days.
http://www.snitzerart.com/images/spod/spod195.jpg

http://www.snitzerart.com/images/spod/spod196.jpg

[jhibbs]

blackhawk-eh not bad aside from the afformentioned slump, yourself? :P


got frustrated with this one, better luck tomorrow

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/aug2.txt

[jhibbs]

what? im posting below myself? where are you guys :P

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/aug3.txt

[R_M]

Don't ask..
for some reason it feels like me, and I am happy with it.
it's mixed pencil, pastels and a bit digital.

I like working with pastels... most of the detail get lost, but it forces me to look at the picture with less attention to the details and more to the overall feel of it. don't know if it makes sense.... :( but it is a great way of trying stuff out.


http://roberto.webconnect.dk/gfxgallery/sp58.jpg

jhibbs: take it easy we can't keep up! the second one is the better of the two i think. it is more detailed, and I like the way you solved the hair.

Duracel: great waterfall!

J.Mac: I know what you mean! your eyes are a bit off, they are either to far away or to close to each other.

everyone else great stuff!

[J.Mac]

Thanks R_M, sometimes all it takes is for some one else to look at your work.

R_M - I like how you use your colours it makes looking at your work more interesting.

jhibbs - Your second one is better, but you probably already know that :)

blackhawk - your eyes are always so expressive i find myself looking at them constantly

:D Great work guys this thread is helping me see better as an artist. Which is exciting but I find myself working to fast and I have a hard time slowing myself down. Does anyone have any tips to help with this?

20 minutes again



http://members.fortunecity.com/12jesse/sp15.jpg

-Jesse

[jhibbs]

done in paintchat


http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/aug4.txt

[keyth]

got some new headphones today....:p

http://members.fortunecity.com/keyth/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Aug23_2003.JPG

[endregan]

lol keyth wooo no headphones...doh in another form i see!!

;)

[J.Mac]

keyth where did you get those headphones? I think I want some :D

Well another quick one. As always :o

http://members.fortunecity.com/12jesse/sp16.jpg

I didn't really like the one earlier so I decided to try again....

http://members.fortunecity.com/12jesse/sp17.jpg

-Jesse

[jhibbs]

tired of trying realism, so i started this one with not much in mind... i think they come out alot more interesting that way.

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/aug5.txt

[Blackhawk]

Sorry for posting this crap. I've been unable to draw the last week.

I'll comment tomorrow, need to get up in 5 hours to hit the gym and work some of this frustration out.

http://members.cox.net/blackhawk9/spod/spod197.jpg

[jhibbs]

arg.... every time i try to tighten up, i end up making horribly proportioned, plastic-fake looking pieces of shit, even if its from a good block-in :mad: i cant seem to get past a block in and end up with a good piece... this is why i stopped for the last month, i hope i find a way around this sometime......


block-in

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/aug62.txt

and "finished" (didnt do the other eye)

http://www.geocities.com/jhibbs27/aug6.txt

[keyth]

jhibbs: i know what it's like to suffer from stopping the spods. it's only a matter of time.

bH: dude, your noses are beautiful.

[R_M]

My mirror is on the desk, so when I look at it my head is actually looking down, that makes me look fatter than I really am....
It is really hard for me to keep few values, always end up adding them!

http://roberto.webconnect.dk/gfxgallery/sp59.jpg

Keith/ makes me wonder what kind of music that pops out of thoose puppies.

Jhibbs/ I think it looks good.. maybee it would feel less plastic like if you used a bit different colours.

J.mac/ your facial features are to small compared to the face outline. I think you have a tendency to draw them smaller than they are, but am not sure.

Blackhawk/ thats the spirit! never stop, always try to improve! :)

[R_M]

http://roberto.webconnect.dk/gfxgallery/sp60.jpg

#60

[Jeff Gran]

charcoal. about 3 hours. I finally got myself a little mirror, so I hope to be doing many more of these in the future. I think next I'll try one where I'm not looking straight on, but I'm scared I'll move too much.

http://jboy.menlofarms.net/sketchbook/SP-8-27-03.jpg

[HellTaxi]

man, i feel like i should be so much better than i am by now...:mad: :beer:

http://www.helltaxi.hostrocket.com/sp082603.jpg

http://www.helltaxi.hostrocket.com/sp082703.jpg

[Blackhawk]

Helltaxi, your last portrait pretty much says how I feel right now. I feel like I'm going to mentally snap here in a few days. Between work and no sleep and my shitastic artwork I've been failing at the last month, I think I'm on the verge of breaking.

http://www.snitzerart.com/images/spod/spod194.jpg

[J.Mac]

Nice work everyone!

Blackhawk - your style is very interesting i do enjoy looking at your work.

Helltaxi - i hear you, i can never get my sp's to look just like me

Jeff Gran - not bad at all i see you like to go traditional too

R_M - your style is unique and interesting to look also

Here is another one of me, sort of wierd looking i think the eyes are to far apart. eh i don't know i have alot on my mind with trying fix my school loans and stuff.....

http://members.fortunecity.com/12jesse/sp19.jpg

-Jesse

[Oblio]

Hi, my name is Oblio and i would like to join you guys, since you rock. :emb:

http://members.fortunecity.com/oblio/28aug2k3.JPG

-O

[keyth]

Hi OBlio...my name is Keyth. Welcome, I hope you come here more often. How did you find out about CA? How long have you been drawing? Do you like the music in Amelie?

[Android]

hey Oblio and Keyth, my name is android, its always neat seeing new faces in this thread.

[keyth]

wwaaahhhahahaha!:p

http://members.fortunecity.com/keyth/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Aug_282003.JPG

[J.Mac]

Hi Oblio, it is nice to see you are joining the sp thread :D

-Jesse

[Blackhawk]

Today was mixed, I cleared my head a bit, I feel much more grounded now.
http://www.snitzerart.com/images/spod/spod198.jpg

J. Mac - Thanks, I like to think my style is all over the place, because it really feels like I can't nail anything down. Nice job on the SP's. Personally, I think the eyes look great on this one, the nose looks a little too small though. Keep working at it.

Oblio - Welcome to the thread Oblio, hopefully you will become a daily contributor ;)



Good to see you again bud.

LOL, these last few posts have cracked me up though.

Keyth - Wow, it's you. Good to see you again.

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/dailies/8-03/8-29.jpg

[Oblio]

oh.. such a warm, welcome.. this must be the best forum in the world. and I only had a crappy sketch...
i only draw since this dream begun... i wait to wake up and REALLY DRAW.
For now... just a few words.
- Android - nice to meet you. I feel though like i've been knowing you forever. You are a real inspiration... you should know that. Please join our thread.. be our guest for one day, do a SP like "what it would feel like" or.. whatever.

- Keyth... ah... you must be the one i've heard so much - you are drawing SO beautifully.. yet you only "paint" your portraits... although.. that blue light it's a new trick. i am so looking forward your next SP's. Maybe more contrast... maybe another pose... you know.. another style, another tool, etc. Thx for the warm welcome, i'll try to keep up with you guys yet... you are all out from this plannet.

- BH - ah.. SO clean.. always a pleasure watching your SP's. Although.. you seem to avoid real studies. Maybe an old chacoal life drawin, like in the old days, with values and all, or why not, a realistic painting?

- Adam - apart from your foggy eyes - i guess you wanted them that way - the ear seems... of? Keep it up!

- ALL - you are SO COOL.

http://members.fortunecity.com/oblio/29aug2k3.JPG


I WILL MAKE THE NOSES BETTER THAN YOU, BLACKHAWK!!!
(not yet.. but.. hey.. i'm working on it, ok?) :chug:

- Oblio

[hed|lamb]

Hey. welcome all, glad you could join the forum. We've about 16 members now, woo.

http://hedlamb.ice.org/tmp/muv_shitticket.jpg

Started something, the phone rang, and here's the result. In other words, not good. I may start another for today.

[Jeff Gran]

uniball and one marker. I need more markers, only got the one.
http://jboy.menlofarms.net/sketchbook/SP-8-29-03.jpg

[Adam Carnes]

hed|lamb- contrast, contrast, contrast! Darks! Portraits are getting better. Maybe even try starting dark to light. Your signature is the darkest part of your work. Your work looks faded.

Oblio- eyes are amazing, nose, hands and mouth are neglected. Maybe more of a slant or curve to the nostrals.

Blackhawk- obviously underworked.

keyth- nice to see you using different/more color. Too middletone; DARKS and HIGHLIGHTS. Define areas!

J.Mac- study anatomy. Very 2D work; not intentionally. Your marks are sloppy; take the time to use good linework. Think about structure. Try a 3 quarters pose to give more dimension; change your pose more often, variety equals new ideas.

HellTaxi- contrast and definition. Your drawing has no darks.

Jeff Gran- definition; more darks/highlights and give some attention to the background.

R_M- top drawing=head detached from the neck. Maybe try going back into your drawings with a darker color.

jhibbs- plastic has extreme contrast. I do not see plastic in these current works. Leave your comfort zone and use more color. If you are painting a barbie doll, burnt umber, burnt sienna and white will work as a pallette. Your lack of color could be reminding people of a plastic doll's skin tone; brown. Otherwise, great rendering and needs more highlights.

[hed|lamb]

http://hedlamb.ice.org/tmp/muv_muv83003.jpg

edit: Adam, just noticed your comments. Thanks for the advices, will pay more attention to that, on the next one.

I do block in, darks first.

My error, I think, is that, at times I get the illusion that hues/values are darker than they really are, when against a light valued surface, like if I'm too lazy to tone the canvas first. Unless if I happen to be working in b|w, in which case, my eyes seem to adapt better, I think. A lot of my work has been affected by my negative mood, and lack of attention also....which means I pretty much suck at the moment. =)

But, indeed, that's something I will try to work on.

[J.Mac]

Great work people! This thread is just awesome i must say :D

Oblio - good eyes i like how you started your sp to bad you didn't finish it.

hed|lamb - what did you use to do your sp with the head phones, it looks like digital watercolours?

Jeff Gran - heh only one marker :o that is rough... it would be nice if you did multiple passes with the marker over darker areas to give more depth and form.

Adam Carnes - i took your advice to heart and tried to something different. Thanks for the help i appreciate when people like yourself help the less experienced artist out :D

So here is a different pose. I like it but i had a hard time with getting those curves to look right and they still look funny to me.

http://members.fortunecity.com/12jesse/sp20.jpg

-Jesse

[Jason Manley]

great work everyonee

oblio...im particularily proud of you...you have come so far in so short a time. wow.


j

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/dailies/8-03/8-30.jpg

J.Mac- looking better already, more interesting. Watch the left side(cheek bone0; it should fall back more. It needs highlights.

hed|lamb- much better! those darks really help give more form. Maybe even some darks in the lip area and under the chin.

Jeff Gran- nice portrait. more darks. keep them coming.

[J.Mac]

Thanks Adam Carnes, when you say the cheek should fall back more, do you mean that it should sit back further than it is? I am just trying to understand what you mean :D

-Jesse

[Adam Carnes]

J.Mac- the highlight on the cheeck bone, under the eye brow and on the fore head, all on the left side, could be erased. That would be about where your face should end. You made that side of your face too wide. And yes I meant that it should sit back further than it is. Your left side needs to be shortened and not have such drastic contrast- I looks like your face dents in, inbetween the nose and cheek.

[Jaku]

Nice to see you all again. Nice work.

http://members.fortunecity.com/jaku1/sp/310803a.jpg

[Adam Carnes]

http://www.adamcarnes.com/gallery/dailies/8-03/8-31.jpg