Sig's Sketchbook - Trying to be more .... French!?

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Disclaimer
I deleted posts and rearranged the images.
Some of the comments probably don't make any sense.

From Reference
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/scans/girl1.jpghttp://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/scans/girl2.jpghttp://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/scans/girl3.jpg

From Loomis and Louise Gordon books
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/loomis001.jpghttp://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/loomis002.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/loomis003.jpghttp://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/loomis004.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/anatomy001.jpg

Old ones:
Loomis Old 1 (http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/loomisold1.jpg)
Loomis Old 2 (http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/loomisold2.jpg)
Loomis Old 3 (http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/loomisold3.jpg)
Loomis Old 4 (http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/loomisold4.jpg)
Loomis Old 5 (http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/loomisold5.jpg)
Loomis Old 6 (http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/loomisold6.jpg)

[buffaloe]

I think they're looking nice :) One thing I'd suggest is to use the shading to create shape on the figures. In the first row of drawings, the middle one(girl in a towel) looks like it was just shaded all in one direction, maybe just to put down a tone. If you used the shading to define the form with darks pushing it back, lights bringing it forward, I think that would be a big help! Good luck!

[StephenC]

They're not bad, i suggest goin for the life drawing and studying up the loomis, bridgeman and other classic figure drawing books.

for pencil technique...what helped me out was just drawing basic shapes...circles..hundreds, thousands of them, trying to draw a perfect circle without using a circle template

and of course draw everyday...lots of drawing..lots.like riding a bicycle, a good part of pencil technique is just motor skill.

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From Louise Gordon's "How to Draw the Human Figure: An Anatomical Approach"
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/louise02.jpghttp://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/louise03.jpg

Fast still lifes (too fast)
Some hard pencil
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/alarm.jpghttp://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/bottle.jpghttp://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/cup.jpg

More fast still life stuff
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/apfel.jpghttp://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/cellthing.jpg

Photo Reference
http://www.eastcoastsurf.com/misc/reefcomp/index.html
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/scans/girl4.jpg

http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/rocks01.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/rocks02.jpg

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For Cashmere's Middle Class assignment.

Step 1:
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/handthumb01.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/handstep01.jpg)
click image for large version

Step 2:
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/handthumb02.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/handstep02.jpg)
click image for large version

Step 3:
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/handthumb03.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/handstep03.jpg)
click image for large version

[Robolus]

Good observation of light and shadows on the last one, keep on posting! :waves:

[Cashmere]

Great studies, Signature! Now I can see your improving. :chug:

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Thanks for the nice replies. :waves:

I had many bad drawing days lately ... :(

Cashmere: step 4 will come eventually. I tried more than once already.
Baaad drawing days I tellya.

To be honest I moved parts of the scanned version around ... the proportions were horrible.

http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/self001.jpg

I think this is the way to go at this stage:
drawing stuff that doesn't take so long
(until I can work faster and/or concentrate longer)
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/self002.jpg

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Painting cubes to practice shading:
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/andyt_1_v3.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/andyt_2_v1.jpg

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From photo reference:
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/daily001.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/daily002.jpg

[endregan]

awesome dood. your work has improved much since last time i saw your art. great man keep it up!

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Thanks endregan!

http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/glass_eagle.jpg
I spend a lot of time working on my homepage.
Didn't draw/paint a lot ...

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All mouse / Gimp:

Quick Buffy stuff
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/buffystuff.jpg

Avatars
http://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy01.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy02.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy03.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy04.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy05.gif
http://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy06.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy07.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy08.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy09.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy10.gif

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Crap .... have to bump:
Too many images in ...

More avatars
http://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy11.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy12.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy13.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy14.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy15.gif
http://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy16.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy17.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy18.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy19.gifhttp://www.andyart.de/avatar/avandy20.gif

More Buff-Stuff
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/faces3.jpg

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http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/insects.jpg

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A new Gimp for Windows version! :cool:
Yeah real quick one ... proportions suck. From reference!
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/statue.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/xan_face.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/norefjunk.jpg

[xia]

Nice stuff you got going here! :D

[AndyT]

Thanks xia.

Small update only ... :(
http://www.andyart.de/images/femaleface.jpghttp://www.andyart.de/images/maleface1.jpg
From ref/Gimp/mouse

[Cashmere]

Nice stuff but... what is a "Gimp" ? It is new for me...

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what is a "Gimp" ? It is new for me...
A cheap (as in "not as good as") free Linux Photoshop clone that doesn't support tablets (at least the Windows version doesn't) ...
but seems to be improving!

http://gimp.org/

Nice stuff
Thanks ;)

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Just to bump the thread ...
Matrix 2 reference
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/groupattending.jpg

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Gimp / mouse
(photo reference used)
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/bandonstage.jpg

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Self portrait.
Gimp / mouse ... about 10 minutes.
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/self01.jpg

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Reference from http://www.supermodels.it/

http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/girlface01.jpghttp://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/girlface03.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/girlface02.jpghttp://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/girl8.jpg

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Another SP
This time I used a photo as reference ... and rushed things.
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/self02.jpg

DSG:
in all of them the faces are based on photos.
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/demonhunt.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/movieposter.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/movieposter2.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/mydsg01.jpg

I know the quality sucks but these are not studies ... it is just me having fun.

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From life ... this .... thing!!! is impossible to draw! :(
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/cat_demon.jpg

DSG ... no ref.
Better luck next time ...
http://andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/mydsg02.jpg

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Supposed to be Cordelia from Buffy. Reference used.
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/gimpversion.jpg

DSG
http://andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/warthingie.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/vampire_sings.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/killmesheriff.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/pengu2.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/badass_camel.jpg

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Quick SP
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/self03.jpg
DSG
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/dsg02.jpg

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DSG:
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/fuckthis.jpg

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[Thunderdome DUMP]
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15179

http://www.andyart.de/images/kingdoms/alien_kingdom3.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/kingdoms/vampire_kingdom1.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/kingdoms/architects_kingdom1.jpg

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Rightclick / Save target for event-file:
http://www.andyart.de/images/wpes/opencanvas01.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/wpes/deerthingie.wpe)

[chudzta]

good stuff overall.. definately improvement. especially in the self portraits. The most recent deer/elk pic .. whatever it may be.. is fairly good even tho its roughed in. it gave it more of a stylized (good color sense) type of look that i like in digital. keep chuggin - piece - chudds

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The rich colors were a part of the original image.
Yeah I avoid going too much into detail.
I try to capture the overall feel of the photos.
Can't say I'm very successful yet.
But I will be if I keep practicing!

Thanks for your reply!

[Thunderdome DUMP 2]
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15179

http://www.andyart.de/images/kingdoms/kingdom_study01.jpg
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Messy self portraits:
http://www.andyart.de/images/sps/self001.jpg

link only

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[Thunderdome DUMP 3]
http://andyart.de/images/kingdoms/islands_kingdom1.jpg
http://andyart.de/images/kingdoms/vampire_kingdom2.jpghttp://andyart.de/images/kingdoms/vampire_kingdom3.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/kingdoms/future_kingdom1.jpghttp://andyart.de/images/kingdoms/vampire_kingdom4.jpg
[/Thunderdome DUMP 3]

[endregan]

cool stuff siggy poo.

like your understanding of form. very good :). wide range of subjects too

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Thanks for your reply endregan :)

http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/eleph2.jpg
Forms don't look ok here :(

[xia]

Hey, I like the ThunderDomeDump3 study! Nice stuff. Keep it up!

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Thanks for your comment XIA. You keep getting better and better btw.
Very inspiring :)

I don't like most of my images ... maybe it's because of the subjects.
I'll have to choose more carefully.

Here is a new study that I posted at Sijun ... C&C anybody???:

Finally I invested more time in an image again.

The reference image is taken from the Pandora-Stock account at Deviantart
~Pandora-Stock (http://pandora-stock.deviantart.com/)
and I got permission to post it outside of Deviantart :D

This is the image I used:
Deviation 4090875 (http://www.deviantart.com/view/4090875/)

I almost gave up about 3 times I guess.
( After the first step I wanted to post it as Uma Thurman fan art ;) j/k )
But I actually thought about leaving it sketchy
(step 6 ... because it kinda had a Micke and/or Joachim feel to it)

As almost always I used a mouse and The Gimp.
Here are snapshots of the process. It's not a "how to" though.
But I guess it goes to show that it is possible to make major changes even in later stages.
Process (http://andyart.de/images/steps/pandora_steps1.jpg)

Click for slightly larger version
http://www.andyart.de/images/albums/Other-Digital-Stuff/pandora_final2.sized.jpg (http://andyart.de/images/steps/pandora_final2.jpg)


NOW WITH CRAIG MULLINS OVERPAINT
http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?p=342542#342542
:nana

[endregan]

good study. must take a while to use the mouse. the paintover is a good idea. good job though! really turned out

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endregan:
Thanks again. Yeah it took a while but I don't know if I could work faster with my tablet
(if I could only find that stupid stylus ...)

Not to proud of this version.
But it goes to show that the approach can save time and make it look less artificial I guess.

http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/painterly2.jpg

[Dan.v.D.]

hey sig ur quite "gas am geben" :D

i really like how seriously ur approaching the whole drawing/painting deal!

where in germany do you live?

if the area around cologne ain´t completely out of reach, you could join our sketchgroup with some ppl from here (ca|dot|org) like robolus, karim m., suder and me and some more...

however keep it up!

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Thanks for the comment. Didn't see it until now ...
Sketchgroup ... sounds "great but out of reach" :( ...

http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/concept4.jpg
No ref used.

[van]

You are doing wonderful! More...post some more!

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Thanks! Unfortunately I don't have much to show :(

I drew some poses without ref and try to turn them into concepts now.
The above and this is all I have so far
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/concept5.jpg
Wanted her to look more as if she was viewed from above.
That's why the legs are so short.
I guess I'll redo her ...

Btw I've done more portraits ...
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/faces_big.jpg

... most of them for the EK portrait-picture thread:
http://pub237.ezboard.com/febonykeepfrm25.showMessage?topicID=11.topic


Thought I could turn this into a series of pictures ...
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/concept6.jpg

[van]

Originally posted by Signature
Something tutorial-like by me :emb:
More for beginners ... and probably I don't use the correct words.
Maybe somebody still finds it helpful somehow.


Excellent work on the tutorial. What do you use to paint with?

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Thanks. I used a mouse, the Gimp and a keyboard.
And every time the Gimp crashes I get angry and stuff.

People made me realize that the tutorials suck.
Tutorials removed because of suckage!

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Finished a commented "eyes study page" for the middle class.

http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/middleclass/eyes_study_thumb.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/middleclass/study_eyes.jpg)

DSG idea for "king's sword":
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/dsg/quicksketch.jpg

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http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/whoisfilter.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/whomightthatbe.jpg

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Some quick concepts.
Guess I'd use reference for the finished versions.

http://www.andyart.de/images/emo_concepts.jpg

[Dan.v.D.]

haha u just made my day :P

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Thanks Dan.v.D.
Nobody else seems to like them :(

Bikini Cowboys ... the idea is taken from LFrankWeber's thread at The Drawing Board
http://www.sketchbooksessions.com/shanesboard/viewtopic.php?t=13579

http://www.andyart.de/idrawgirls/images/cowgirls.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/idrawgirls/images/shoot.jpghttp://www.andyart.de/idrawgirls/images/vulture.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/idrawgirls/images/horse.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/paintchat.jpg

Oh and trying palettes:
http://www.andyart.de/images/oldandbad/quickmusic.jpg
http://www.andyart.de/images/ultikick.jpg

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All from ref. Just trying to get the proportions right.

Click for larger images:

http://www.andyart.de/images/ref-sketches/scan001_thumb.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/ref-sketches/scan001.jpg)http://www.andyart.de/images/ref-sketches/scan002_thumb.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/ref-sketches/scan002.jpg)
http://www.andyart.de/images/ref-sketches/scan005_thumb.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/ref-sketches/scan005.jpg)http://www.andyart.de/images/ref-sketches/scan004_thumb.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/ref-sketches/scan004.jpg)
http://www.andyart.de/images/ref-sketches/scan003_thumb.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/ref-sketches/scan003.jpg)http://www.andyart.de/images/ref-sketches/scan006_thumb.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/ref-sketches/scan006.jpg)

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Quick studies from reference.

Click for larger images:

http://www.andyart.de/images/speedpaintings/speed001_thumb.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/speedpaintings/speed001.jpg)http://www.andyart.de/images/speedpaintings/speed002_thumb.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/speedpaintings/speed002.jpg)http://www.andyart.de/images/speedpaintings/speed003_thumb.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/speedpaintings/speed003.jpg)
http://www.andyart.de/images/speedpaintings/speed004_thumb.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/speedpaintings/speed004.jpg)http://www.andyart.de/images/speedpaintings/speed005_thumb.jpg (http://www.andyart.de/images/speedpaintings/speed005.jpg)

[RETEP]

i can see alot of improvement. especially with your self portraits each one is a step forword (counting the one in the SP thread). keep it up ;)