Optimus Prime Update

[nyanko]

hi all,

just started this, did a rough sketch and then started going over it again. i can't seem to get the perspective right on prines left arm, it just doesn't look right. any suggestions are welcome.

[Ahnem Mee]

This looks promising. Try moving the shoulder-'cube' a bit up and to the right.

[nyanko]

for which shoulder? left or right?

[Lotet]

(i think hes refering to our left one...)


i like the detail in the face, just keep going like that on the body and so before rendering....cool piece, keep working on it^^

[NikhilSalvi]

This looks like a good blocking stage, all set for a Great piece of Art. :confident

A few things, know for sure the level to which u r goin to get this art piece to (like the detail, realism/surreal, finish, etc), also other things like picking up some nice references. Hope this is helpful...:yawn:

btw Ahnem Mee is talking about OP's right shoulder.

[nyanko]

thanks for the pointers, i do have lots of reference, i've never done any transformers before, not a massive fan or anything, just always remember prime being really cool from when i was younger. in terms of detail i want it to be fairly high but not nuts. not sure how im going to render it yet, colour is something that kind of freaks me out. i just want it to sit comfortably with other pics of prime that i like

[nyanko]

just thought i would frop in this update......

[Piranha Clan]

Prime, awesome. Can't wait to see the finished product.

[Seedling]

Good start. Don't forget - you need to work out the proper perspective of each body segment individually.

[nyanko]

i have been doing that, but does anybody know, when taking a roughed in shape and then drawing back to the vanishing point for that shape, what do you do if the vanishing point is way of the edge off your image? how can you be sure that your perspective is still correct in this case?

[Lotet]

if thats the case its probebly not that big difference in the perspective, or you can just make the canvas bigger, or print it out and draw new vanishing lines...

anyhow, i like the uppdate, keep working on it^^

[Cyclop3000]

i have been doing that, but does anybody know, when taking a roughed in shape and then drawing back to the vanishing point for that shape, what do you do if the vanishing point is way of the edge off your image? how can you be sure that your perspective is still correct in this case?

If you're not used to perspective, then you'll have to setup on a nice big drawing pane, and do the whole perspective even though it's way off your drawing...no secret trick here !

If you work say in photoshop then i would setup a new layer, oversize the canvas, setup the lines for perspective properly for the major points in your drawing, then resize back the canvas to original. This way you're left with the perspective help lines on the image, no need to do this again. If you want to add a few lines later then you can safely guesstimate them...When you're done turn off that "guide" layer.

[nyanko]

cheers :)

[Seedling]

i have been doing that, but does anybody know, when taking a roughed in shape and then drawing back to the vanishing point for that shape, what do you do if the vanishing point is way of the edge off your image? how can you be sure that your perspective is still correct in this case?

You are going to find that in most cases of drawing in perspective, the perspective points will fall outside of your image. Often they will fall so far outside that there is no practical way to extend those lines on an extra sheet of paper. There are tricks for working around this accurately. However, I don't know them well enough to tell you how. Pick up a book on perspective and do some reading. And good luck.

[fishtank]

"eyeballing it" works too if you keep at something you are bound to get it right. If you just keep drawing you'll know when its right.

[nyanko]

i know this is no where need finished but some crits at this stage would be good...:)

[Thujon]

Very cool I gladly will watch this!!!

[Texahol]

the rocks he's sitting on, and the edge of the cliff appear out of perspective with how he's sitting.

keep at it, optimus is looking very nice

[nyanko]

here is just a quick update. any comments are most welcome...:teeth:

[Jason Rainville]

It's a little late now, but the leg closest to us looks like it's being 'speard' too far, moved so far out it would be uncomfortable to sit like that.

[Lotet]

really nice, great progress...i though, do think you should keep the linework viseble like in the second last picture....other then that its really nice, keep working on it^^

[bulsatar]

Looks really good sofar. It almost looks like you are doing a 3 point perspective which is really hard to pull off. The only suggestions I can make is increase the specular (highlight focus) on the metal parts of optimus and his edges to pull them out more, this will pull more of a metal look into the picture. And just develop the background more. Good job.

[Hexokinase]

This is jawdroppingly amazing. As Texahol said, I think the cliff is definately out of perspective - particularly, the ledge that his feet are on. The portion of it in the farthest top right corner seems warped, and needs to be lowered a bit to allign that plane with the rest of the piece. Will you ever merge the lineart with the colors? Or do you prefer to keep them seperate? (I'm asking this out of curiosity only :))

[laurghita]

That guy its supposed to have at least 4-6 wheels... its a big truck transformer after all, where are hidden ?!

[JellevdVegt]

sweeeeeeet

[Flipnastywebby]

keep it up :-)


looking really great

slainte!

[nyanko]

thank for the comments and advice:)

laurghita - i kind of got carried away a bit and completely for got about the wheels for a bit..lol..they will be in the final version though.

Havoc-DM / Texahol - thanks for the heads up about the perspective about the ledge, i knew there was something not right there but i couldn't spot it myself. i'll fix that too.

i am still undecided about the lines, at the beginning i had no intention of keeping them, but at times i have thought that my be it looks better with them in there. at the moment im re-doing them but trying to make them feel more settled in the image.

[Hexokinase]

Some people merge their lineart to the painting, then paint over some of the less important lines. Seems a lot simpler than re-doing the lines from scratch. Unless ofcourse, there's some fatal flaw with them.

How many hours have you invested into this piece so far? And did you draw up any thumbs before you started?

[nyanko]

I have no idea how much time i have spent on this so far. other than a few character sketches this will be my first full digital painting. im not trying to rush through it at all. y hope with it are to help me get used to working in colour, i have often strayed from colour feeling more comfortable working just in greyscale. considering that i am quiet happy with my progres onthis piece. how ever it has ment that i might work on it and they decided that it is not looking how i want it to, so i'll take a few steps back. i'm sure this has added to the overall time. im happy to work on it like this for the monent as it is helping me get used to painter and discover some process that work fo me.

the thumb nail that i settled on for this piece is still there at the begining of this post with the first bits of line art over it.

for the mean time i'm going to keep the lines seperate for the monent.

thanks for the interest. :)

[sorsha]

That guy its supposed to have at least 4-6 wheels... its a big truck transformer after all, where are hidden ?!

Yeah, which "version" of Prime is he? My bf has a bunch of Primes siting on a bookshelf. I can give you a photo reference of one if need be. (He can't wait for the movie, but I have a feeling he's gonna be disappointed....)

[nyanko]

thanks sorsha but i have a few primes here too, i just haven't put the wheel in yet. the will be done though... :)

[Vaejoun]

Keep it coming, this goes into a really nice direction ^^

how about his gun ? Maybe you can place it near him ? Leading to the wall or somehing.

[FAST ART]

looks very great... i like the ground..;) would be funny when he would smoke a blunt :D

[Jamberlyn]

This is great- I like the details, like the way his weight is cracking the rocks below his feet.