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April 16th, 2007, 12:54 AM
Topic: A modern Computer Witch
Medium: any and all! work your magic!
Due: 1 month from today... do good work for this one you have time
DUE MAY16th! MIdnight...
I will start rounding up judges. three is a good number I think...
April 17th, 2007, 05:54 AM
no takings, ha rox....?
well, it`s early enough.
count me in if this snow ball gets `a rollin`...
April 17th, 2007, 10:04 AM
oooh look, a can of whoop ass..let me open that for you...
April 17th, 2007, 12:45 PM
April 17th, 2007, 01:33 PM
it was Zaps idea really.... Mines gonna be a SP...of sorts I think..I was gonna paint it anyway so I thought Id let others play too...
April 18th, 2007, 07:38 PM
I really don't know what kind of witch is that...but I'm in...
April 19th, 2007, 10:19 AM
Im guessing its a kind of alchemist witch, blending science with magic- Im going with technology and dark arts myself.
gonna post some sketches later.
April 19th, 2007, 02:37 PM
Sounds cool,so count me in...
April 19th, 2007, 04:25 PM
Too tempting to pass up. I'm in.
April 19th, 2007, 06:10 PM
This could be a great addition to the "Varied and Interesting Females" thread. I'm in.
April 19th, 2007, 07:24 PM
I really need to submit to a TD in order that I can ditch my "Pussed out!" avatar with a clear conscience, I may well be in..:D
April 20th, 2007, 01:20 AM
I'm in. This sounds fun!
April 22nd, 2007, 10:20 PM
I just saw this and I think I can do it time-wise... whether tasteful "pron" will be acceptable is another matter. I got my idea as soon as I read the description, and now I'm mentally stuck with it...heeheehee
April 22nd, 2007, 10:46 PM
April 22nd, 2007, 11:28 PM
Ilaekae: This is totally off topic, but when I read the word "pron" in your above post, I immediately thought of a giant prawn sitting at a laptop looking at nuddie prawn smut, while sipping a steaming hot cup of brine. It was a thought I just had to share.
April 23rd, 2007, 10:09 AM
April 23rd, 2007, 11:15 AM
prawn pron...great, another fetish to look forward to, and I just got over my ferret piss to the left eye fetish.
Got my initial sketch done-question
chaos; you ok with partial nudity- nothing graphic(no pron or prawns)?
April 23rd, 2007, 03:26 PM
Oh, hell...just blab my idea to everyBODY, whydoncha, Grendel?!?! :x
April 23rd, 2007, 04:46 PM
Im ok with total nudity... with in the limits of reasonable taste
April 23rd, 2007, 05:46 PM
Oh, hell...just blab my idea to everyBODY, whydoncha, Grendel?!?! :x
he he he...The sabotage begins :devil: What, you thought this was gonna be a nice clean round of professional level competition? Not when "pron" is involved.
April 30th, 2007, 01:59 PM
Sue me do whatever you want with me, but can you give a little more information please I'm in one of the don't think moods. It usually lasts for a week or so. Plus you mentioned that all are invided so there can't possibly be to much harm in asking.
April 30th, 2007, 02:46 PM
sure it's simple....
you paint drw sculpt or otherwise creat your own personal image of a modern computer witch.
you post it
I put up a FF thread and find Judges
somebody wins and we all win cause we get to look at cool art work
April 30th, 2007, 03:48 PM
i want in
April 30th, 2007, 04:18 PM
1rst. I don't know if I’m skilled enough, but I will try my best to finish before then.
2nd I have a full time job and study part time. It's an 80% chance that I will not make it so for now (after a few minutes of consideration reality kicks in) I must pass maybe next time.
3rd I will keep it in mind and if I don't finish in time I will post a end result sometime in the future when I have the time to do so... Thinking about that I must be going and finish what I started.
Sorry for your trouble
May 7th, 2007, 09:09 PM
Ferdi- chill out bro, just have fun with it :) make it in time or not, just jump in.
heres a progress sketcharoo, not sure I should finish this one...cause I just got this sick idea that just might look wicked..hmmm
May 11th, 2007, 11:54 AM
anybody actually working on this?
May 11th, 2007, 11:59 AM
anybody actually working on this?
I`ve been doodling around whenever possible, yeah.
not too happy with anything in particular.
we still got time, right?
May 11th, 2007, 12:43 PM
I'm working on it...16th the deadline, no?
May 11th, 2007, 02:12 PM
I'm still in!
May 11th, 2007, 02:34 PM
I'll try and knock something out in the next few days. I've had a couple of ideas for this rattling around, but I didn't count on having about six finals to muck through before the end of May. Gotta love teachers who pile on the workload at the last possible moment.
May 11th, 2007, 02:39 PM
Witchy stuff for my competitors for inspiration and intimidation :).
May 11th, 2007, 06:12 PM
Can I still join? Not sure if I will be able to finish but I think I have an idea of what I want to do.
May 12th, 2007, 04:52 PM
sure go for it
May 12th, 2007, 04:58 PM
Ok if it is legal I wanna change my mind. I want in and I can't post my picture there's no attachment button.
May 12th, 2007, 06:01 PM
outside host plz?
Like the activities
its easier to transfer to FF when we are done and to post to the judges
May 12th, 2007, 06:02 PM
I need 3 judges.... volunteers?
have some ideas
May 12th, 2007, 06:23 PM
I am anxious to see different variations of the witch... have to admit... the theme makes me go scattered minded... heh,,, I had this effect about three years ago with "Fear'... didn't know what to do,,,
Nellie...lets find some unexpected judge... it is more fun this way :).
May 13th, 2007, 08:16 AM
My Original idea didn't work so here's my other idea this was kind of fun I've learned some new stuff to:^^:
I can't remember how to post a image from another source so I hope this works
May 15th, 2007, 08:23 AM
Well, here she is. I would have liked to spend more time refining the image but I have too many other things going on. It was a lot of fun. I didnt want her to be a glam queen, but I didnt want to make her completely unfortunate looking either. Thanks for looking, Good Luck to everyone!
May 15th, 2007, 09:07 AM
this is a WIP, not really sure I like it. I`ll work on it some more tomorrow,
and if it seems to go nowhere - well... I`ll try a different way.
May 15th, 2007, 08:56 PM
JLAlfaro: cool ideas going, definitely worth finishing, her lower legs seem slightly too short tho
Ferdinand Venter: looking good, are you working on it further?
MoonVisionStudio: kickass entry! :}
Chuck,mate: interesting idea with the hair, looking forward to what you come up with :D
i'm short on ideas on mine, but here's a wip pic for now, will add body and stuff later on
edit: added 3 more WIP images (including ref i used for the face lighting. no ref used for rest of her body), and final image attached
extra edit: uploaded final to imageshack too
May 15th, 2007, 09:44 PM
we have 3 judges
all persons of skill and honour
so get em done folks
note to self ; get to work bitch!
May 15th, 2007, 11:18 PM
May 15th, 2007, 11:25 PM
May 15th, 2007, 11:29 PM
nice topic roxie, sorry I didn't see it until tonight.
May 15th, 2007, 11:43 PM
24 hours+ Sunny
get to work
May 16th, 2007, 12:32 AM
May 16th, 2007, 07:09 AM
deadred - thanks. your character looks crazy cool. :)
well, hated what I started there.
so - it was back to thumbing some other options (though, sadly, looking at the Deadline now and the amount of work I gotta do today, I`m pretty sure I`m not gonna make it.... :( )
May 16th, 2007, 08:42 AM
deadred- Thanks! That's a great start you have there, nice lighting.
squidmonk3j- Very cool pose!
Grendel Grack- Nice face so far, cant wait to see it all.
sve- Awesome take on the topic, put a big smile on my face, and so true too!
chuckmate- Come on, you can bang something out, you have some good sketches going already.
May 16th, 2007, 09:13 AM
MoonVisionStudio - well, I`m trying, but now it really is a race with the clock.
and I`m LOSING. ;)
May 16th, 2007, 08:19 PM
Finish em up puppies
cmon you can do eet
May 16th, 2007, 10:35 PM
Here is my final:
May 17th, 2007, 07:48 AM
Nice style Grendel, she's cool, reminds me of the gypsies(?) I saw when I lived in Spain.
May 17th, 2007, 09:59 AM
ANY MOre out there?
all in? all Done?
May 17th, 2007, 10:22 PM
Deadred...that is bloody fantastic!
May 18th, 2007, 12:47 AM
I suppose an extension is out of the question??
me not done
me had too much work
me sorry :(
May 18th, 2007, 08:09 AM
squidmonk3j: not working on her anymore? :(
sve: love how you drew those animals, very vibrant piece
Chuck,mate: :D *waits for more updates of your witch*
Grendel Grack: gorgeous entry, her hair is especially eyecatching :)
Sundance: thanks! i just noticed i forgot to give my witch's laptop proper ports and keyboard lol i'm gonna fix up the pic further my own later on
i'm hoping the deadline can be extended so Chuck and JLAlfaro can finish their entries tho
May 18th, 2007, 10:17 AM
Hey It's no problem to leave it open... deadline was more like guidelines anyway. finish it up
May 18th, 2007, 12:07 PM
MoonVision: I guess she does have a gypsie style to her. I just started painting different ways to depict her and this one seemed the most "witchy" to me :)
Deadred: Thanks for the comments :) The use of lighting and textures on your piece is quite nice.
GO Chuck,mate and JLAlfaro! We are expecting great things from you guys :wink:
May 19th, 2007, 12:54 PM
Since the time for this was kind of extended I figured I could make some changes before it officially closed.
May 19th, 2007, 08:05 PM
I had some time to work on it this morning, if its late of well, gave it my best shot. I scratched the idea I had previously and reworked almost the whole thing today.
Great entries everyone, waiting on chuck now :P
mine, I know theres a few details missing, but I gotta get my ass back to work.
May 19th, 2007, 10:27 PM
Can I judge yet? Chaosrocks, I’ll send you my top three picks. And here are my critiques. . .
Ferdinand Venter – “Demure Witch” – I like the reversal of the usual witch colors to white. It looks like perhaps you have taken this opportunity to learn new features of the tools you are using? The strongest part of the image is definitely the witch. She has good body language, and her skin color stands out nicely in the composition. The other elements are compositionally not as solid as they could be – they are interesting shapes on their own but they aren’t working together as a whole.
MoonVisionStudio – “Punk Witch” – Perfect character! I think I went to college with her, in fact. The cat doesn’t sit as well with me – the anatomy is just a bit too caricatured. I think the lighting would be better if it were coming solely from the candles and screen. Nice use of props and costume details; though the skull has anatomy issues. I love the apple pentagram design, but it would be clearer if the star’s arms were properly crossed. But finding that symbol again on the floor after looking at it on her shoulder is a fun touch.
Deadred – “Softly-Lit Witch” – The coke can is just plain funny. I love how you have handled her features and the light glowing on them, and her soft personality; I don’t like the hard line between light and dark elements behind her. There seems to be a good opportunity missed to use that background space for a strong composition of simple shapes. I love the floaty holographic elements. The less-finished elements could use a little more refinement.
Squidmonk3j – “Leaping Witch” – That’s a powerful image. It’s unexpectedly simple for the subject, and it works well. The computer needs a tad more detail so that it doesn’t just read as a rectangle. Also, her feet and calves could be more shapely. I love what you’ve done with the lighting.
Grendel Grack – “Floaty-Hair Witch” – Eye candy! I’m having a tough time thinking of anything that could be improved. Maybe that floaty mouse would be better off over the cloud somewhere, so that it would be more visible. I also find myself wanting there to be some bit of space between the cat and the hair. Ooh – since we are looking down on her, we should also be looking down on the candles. Those colors are yummy, and I want to take those curly shapes home with me and cuddle up with them.
Sve – “Darling Witch” – Cute! Such a light and sunny image – it’s a nice twist on what can so easily be made into dark subject matter. I’m curious as to what all the “don’t” post-it notes are about. The girl’s arms and legs are out of proportion to her head. I love the cat in the string.
Chuck,mate – “Unfinished Witch” – Those are some nice hips! Are you going to finish her?
JLAfaro – “Crotch Witch” – This is a fun cyberpunk approach. The lighting scheme is pretty. Her face and hand are particularly well developed , and by contrast, the rest of her is lacking a bit in shadows and textures (which is a nice reversal of a common problem in figure painting). I’m surprised to hear myself saying this, but if her crotch is going to be so central to the image, it needs to have as much personality as her face!
Nice work everyone!
May 20th, 2007, 12:42 AM
Thank you, Seedling for useful crits and I agree with them... head is too big... I might try to cut it a bit where her hairr are on the top...Don't on the computers are not just "don't post", it is don't do anything at all, in general... and in this case... find some other thing to love besides a virtual reality...
That's portrait of my daughter, similarity is so-so.. but personality is close... she is sunny and sly. Thanks again, very nice of you...
deadred Thank you for liking and I will comment too a bit later, when all pieces are in and finished.
MoonVisionStudio Thank you so much as well, it is kind.. Sorry with delaying with my own comments, but I will do them.
May 20th, 2007, 02:53 AM
sorry guys and gals... no finished piece from me.
good luck all.
May 20th, 2007, 06:33 AM
Thanks Seedling for the critique. My mind gone blank after I finished it the first time I didn't know what to add into the picture because the left side was kind of open the better option would of been to crop it but I didn't think of it at the time. All I know is that I wanted to add a spell book into the whole composition, but my mind got stuck where I could have put it. I wanted to make a fire effect around it but it didn't work at all so I deleted it.:(
The other elements are compositionally not as solid as they could be – they are interesting shapes on their own but they aren’t working together as a whole.
Do you have an idea on how to improve it, like for instance delete a few things add something I didn't think of etc?
To everyone who have joined this competition with me you've done a very good job. Chuck, mate come on and finish what you've started. Even if it's not on time
May 20th, 2007, 07:34 AM
Seedling-Good Crit, very much appreciated! You gave me good things to think about if I ever get to finish her up.
May 20th, 2007, 01:02 PM
Seedling: many thanks for the critique! great guidelines for when i work on the piece further, maybe i'll add a poster on the wall to break up the contrast
JLAlfaro: :D cool entry, i like the new approach on the image, and yeah i agree with Seedling about the crotch.. lol
May 20th, 2007, 01:46 PM
I'm glad my words have been helpful. :-)
Do you have an idea on how to improve it, like for instance delete a few things add something I didn't think of etc?
Spend some time doing some quick non-representational studies. Basically just shove some shapes and colors around and try to come up with pleasing compositions. Then apply what you learnd to your representational work.
May 20th, 2007, 08:15 PM
moonvisionstudio - some issues re the face, as mentioned. and allthough i'm no fan of that neon green, i really like the piece! the pose and details kinda reminds me of Jamie Hewlett's TankGirl, but you obviously have ur own style going for you! and, tnx for feedback!
dead - what can i say...ur women are gorgeous! also, great colour scheme! only crit would be the relation between witch and laptop. as it stands, the machine seems to be floating magically over the pentagram, but the reclining hand indicates that she might be supporting it in some way...i don't like the ambiguity of this! nonetheless, very strong piece! extra pts for posting progression and ref:) ...and no, i'll not likely be working more on this one - it's just gotta try to to stand on it's anatomically incorrect feet and hope for the best!
squidmonk3j - are you kidding me? are those legs? and, what's up with her abdomen?! back to school, fool!
sve - i love this piece! it vibrates with warmth and love!
grendel grack - great smoke and hair! i think there are some value issues here tho...the bottom part seems less thought out than the top. and the cat and hair might benefit from some highlights, not so much as to remove focus from the face, but you know...*some*. not too crazy about the green in this piece either. i can't even make out what those beams are supposed to be. i'd really like to see some extra post-td effort put into this piece, it's very promising!:)
ferdinand venter - hm, i kind of like this in spite of myself...i think it's because of the strict composition, which has almost a tarot-like feel to it. but, the individual elements aren't too strong...almost all shape and no real mass, if you get my point. like the pose of the witch, tho!
jlafaro - elwell once crit'ed an early piece of mine..."Well, I gotta tell ya'...
There's a fundamental conceptual problem here, which is that it's obviously supposed to be sexy, and it's just not. The wonky eyes, the horse nose, the mashed potato breasts, the claw hands, the awkward pose, the bowed legs... everything conspires to work against the feeling you are trying to create. None of those things would be such glaring flaws if we didn't have the beaver shot, but once you have that, everything else had better back it up."
now, urs is a much better piece than the image elwell ripped apart (with good reason), but there's a good lesson in there!:)
seedling - tnx for taking the time to crit! appreciated:)
and chuck, sry you couldn't make it...we'd be honoured by your participation, but time is money, eh?:)
May 20th, 2007, 09:26 PM
I'll get off my ass and post his to the other judges tomorrow
really I will
May 22nd, 2007, 10:07 AM
thanks to seedling and squidmonk3j for those great crits- If I have anymore time on my hands I will make sure to work those crits into the piece(crotch).
chucko -too bad you didnt make it man, but I totally understand work is work and play doesnt pay as well...next time.
so when does this get judged chaos?
May 22nd, 2007, 12:10 PM
Hello... Some impressions:
JLAlfaro I liked your first version so much more... You moved to more distanced, colder version later and maybe it has more "computer","modern" and "witch" in it, but it feels less involving to me...
I liked more realistic proportions: normal, realistic legs in the first version and thicker waist... she looked more down to earth and it had better story for me, sort of transition from earthy woman to computer goddess. I liked green color... although, it had half natural half artificial feeling too, but it was moody and had depth together with those turning rectangles in perspective...I liked her face as well, still a face you can meet on street but with unusual lighting from beneath... So everything led me to thought of magical tranformation of human being into mystical creature.
In the last version she is as far from regular people as possible, cold, distanced, not human... with everything: proportions of her body, color of her skin, strange hanging in the air without support, weird expression of the face...
as crits I wish you did the ankles of her feet in the first version thinner and finer... it would make her look more graceful , would give her body more elegant shape ... and because you did try to hint on her attractiveness, I think it would be suitable to enhance it even more.
Ferdinand Venter I like the lovely pose of the woman... like she approached the place of meeting silently, without any sounds and stood on the side of the picture... not wanted to attract attention to her... smooth, soft and feminine. I like her gentle curves, wavy and undistributed and calm colors... And her glance persistent and entering and distanced in the same time... So all this together with even style of the painting give me certain personality, taste of it: something that coexists with us in the same moment in the same room, but doesn't mix...an entity, independent... soft but willful... observing and untouchable, unapproachable... beautiful. Something of different nature from us.
Crits... I don't think your adding some kabbalistic symbols improved the image... the added scripts look too sketchy and I think it scatters my attention overall, trying to understand the message and wondering if you just didn't have time to make them better, in perspective, in the same style with everything else.
I really like woman face, tilt of her had and contradictions of her alerted watchful glance and submissive pose... half empty room is fine, doesn't' disturb me, ... but i think objects look not very good connected overall in your composition... too many space between them and not the best placement relating them to each other.
Woman in feminine pose near the jug it is almost classic as woman combing her long hair... it is beautiful and very appealing to me, I like the idea.
MoonVisionStudio Nice composition and pose.... I like the mix of energetic colors and well fit modern girl with relaxed, powerless, I would even say frustrated with somehting pose.. I like the arm and hand hanging in the air without action... made me look and wonder if everything went well for this character. I saw few paintings of the gypsies with tarot cards trying to predict the future...and some of them had the same expression on their faces: frustration, and in the body language. Like seeing something bad happening in the cards...
Otherwise she looks quite energetic and very much involved with life: dressed to kill, gorgeous, with boots that probably jump from floor themselves,like springs... helping her to move forward effortlessly...
Crits: a bit too many focus points... you are overusing saturated colors I think, it wouldn't be a bad thing to tune down a bit on her skin, outfit and especially the giant letters, which should not have this priority in picture I think...
Lovely image overall and I live the magic lighting and her green eyes..
deadred The face is gold, the lighting, the attractive features , slightly fuzzy hair, quietened appealing colors... all this is lovely... but I wish you put better thoughts in composition and in her pose,,, she looks tense because of the pose ,,, it would be better to place her siting criss cross apple sauce, enjoying her favorite thing, alone finally... everything else in the picture from colors to solitude makes me think she is in her favorite place and favorite occupation and it is her good moment... but awkward legs kill it a bit and make the image needlessly alerting... And you would bind the laptop placing it on her knees too...becasue right now it look awkward too, IMO...
squidmonk3j It is good idea, it think, wild energetic uncontrollable woman jumping suddenly from a little black box... reminds me old Arabian genies, stuffed by someone into nightmarishly tiny vessel.. Your picture is bit too neutral though and if my guess is close I wish you gave her more expressive pose, freeing herself and probably laughing victoriously like a thunder: rough and striking, like nature.
feet don't bother me... subtle message does.
I looked at you images in your sketch book and you are very, very skillful, extremely expressive with everything when you want it: expression of faces, body language, composition... I think you didn't get involved with this one unfortunately... you need to give some to make me want to know about your heroine... wish you make her crazy, foaming idiot jumping out of her confinement and being madly happy about it. Sort of too longly suppressed volcano, destructive nature force...
Thanks for liking my image...
Grendel Grack I like your image a lot for this interest provoking tilt of her head and unusual type of her face and hippie like outfit... flower child ... and stretching cat.
Lovely colors, juicy and deep and very beautiful... they create a certain mood. a character on their own... like the time in the late evening when sun is set but it is not a complete darkness and in the air you can see those transitions of beautiful colors. I think you have the same mood there... mystic and rich.
I wish you made the cat darker and her hair maybe a little lighter...cat would repeat already presenting dark color of the computer and it would tasteful be I think...
Overall it is a great image.
May 22nd, 2007, 01:28 PM
This is the first time I do one of these and I notice everyone giving some great crits about all the pieces is that what I am supposed to do?
May 22nd, 2007, 02:03 PM
if you are inspired to do so.... yoou certainly don't have to.
May 24th, 2007, 02:37 PM
Thanks for all the comment btw did I mention my medium is vector I'm currently redoing some of the elements so if all goes well ill be done this weekend because I’m to busy in the week and well... I’m short on ideas; I'm trying not to copy someone else's idea
Now my crits
JLAlfaro: I really like your new concept more than the fist. Both of your pictures center point is exactly in the center. It doesn't bother me so much but still you can keep in mind for future reference the hair is done better as everything looks better, and as Seedling mentioned the crotch is kind of taking over your image
deadred: I love how you painted the girl she looks real modern, but I don't get the witch feeling it can be just me. All the rest has been said already.
MoonVisionStudio Very interesting subject you've added so much detail on the witch and almost neglected your cat and skull(computer stand). I think adding more detail to that could improve your image
Grendel Grack Oh Gypsies all I have is that the keyboard looks like it’s going too fall out of her hands. I love it.
sve The Girls dress looks flat. Is she some nature modern witch? The poor cat being tied up in that string. That would teach it not to do knitting on it's own it needs to know-how-to first before attempting such a hard feat ;).
squidmonk3j Your picture is to darn small. It may give a tarot card feeling, but since I’ve never been involved with my dark side (I'm to scared of it getting out) I don't know what to think. I'm currently looking though your SB damn my internet is so darn slow I think I would second sve on this one
Chuck,mate. I'm sure you can make it and give us a run for our money ;). No seriously come and show us what you got. You've already gotten me interested so what are you waiting for finish damn you.
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