first try

[wolverinex]

SKETCHES UPDATED>>>>>>>>>>>UPDATES CHECK IF U STILL LOVE ME.....

[fajitaofdoom]

Post a smaller version, please.

[Piranha Clan]

Smaller, yes.

Good work. Maybe some more variation in line thickness, a few more darks too. Keep posting.

[wolverinex]

so this is a smaller one hope to get a better response this time ..be the critique and kick my ass

[wolverinex]

oops image squashed..hihihi

[Infinit]

ways to improve:
draw and ink more
esp ink, draw pics with ink only too and use a brush from time to time

visit a life drawing class
I'm sure it will help you understand th human figure

[wolverinex]

havnt been to a life drawing class for the past 4 months ...although the model was not that good...she herself was so stiff that some times we thought she was a male ..wat evr ,.thanx forer sugesstions!!
ER ASSASIN is really interesting!

[Brendan N]

I don't have anything new to add to what already been said, except try to get away from manga. It's been raped and not really interesting any more. There are SO many more interesting directions you can, SO many other other avenues of art you can explore, don't get stuck on all that wapanese jazz :).

[DavePalumbo]

manga style aside, I like the way this is handled. Line variation can be a very useful tool, but look at Jean Giraud Moebius and Geoff Darrow, both incredible draftsmen who only use uniform line width and use it beautifully. That said, your line just needs more experience and training. I can see your hand "shake", so to speak. Time and practice will make it fluid.

[wolverinex]

yeah! i need more time! and practice...why isnt there another 24 hours to make a day!!!???

brendan:SORRY! sir, i wil be working for a japanese prodution from the next month ...hav to LOVE manga.Although am looking forward only to the way they ink!And i love er work! thanx for giving me a visit!

DAVE: ur the boss!yes ma strokes are not that confident!i just need time! someday sooner i will also be running along with you guys!(hopefully)!thanx a lot

[Brendan N]

haha no need for apologies my man, just saying don't get stuck on it like those goons from deviantfart :P

cheers, and keep drawing! (ah, Dave has some good points, as always)

[wolverinex]

srry cldnt found my sketch book link ..so putting it here hope fully will get some attention......
this is a charecter concept i didi for a pro duction demo reel..
a lady vamp chaecter with whip....one end of love potion other of poison...her name is ZAKUSKA...(concept and idea self)

[wolverinex]

this is my first creature design...work in progess..immuval doorkeeper
the other part of the entity exist below the surface..snail type of biology

[spudstudios]

cool work dude.. what do you use to resize your images? I find Paint shop pro best.. You can tick restrain proportions and reduce percentage.. helps stop em getting squished

[Kainin]

its all looking good but the vamp you might want to thin the lips to make the face agressive and show a suggestion of a fang.

[Seedling]

Fun stuff. :-) Keep going! How about some drawings from life to go with the characters from imagination? You should start a sketchbook.

[wolverinex]

started life drawing class..hoping to post as soon as possible

[wolverinex]

THANX MIKE CORRIERO .... fOR I HAVE USED HIS DRAWINGS AS MA REFERENCE!(mike ur ma inspiration to get into CA)

[wolverinex]

:yayca: :yayca: SKETCHES UPDATED>>>>>>>>>>>this is ma 2nd update session and all the pics r insanely huge..and thanx to MIKE corriero.....

[wolverinex]

more doggy style:D

[Jason Rainville]

Move this to the sketchbook section and rename this. No one is going to come in here and critique all of these, especially if they have to do a few minutes of scrolling around to see all of the giant pictures to boot. Resize and edit your posts so one can see an entire page all at once.

The critique section is getting very lax in its rules. NO sketches or doodles allowed, and an unspoken rule would be one piece at a time. At least, one piece at a time if you intend to get an in-depth critique.

EDIT: wtf? where did the rules go?

[wolverinex]

yes its really embarrasing..even i am getting frustrated by the loading time
but how do i move it

[wolverinex]

:\ resized for all of you...and will be removing all these to ma sketchbook

[Jason Rainville]

PM a mod (seen at the bottom of the critique center forum) and ask them to send this to the scketchbook section. Edit your first post, go to "go advanced" and you can change your title. You can also edit your posts, delete the pics that are to big and reupload new smaller ones if you'd like.

[spudstudios]

Thanks for popping back dude. Seriously you need to get a sketchbook up and add it as a sig to your profile. Thanks for the great compliments and regular visits. The dog updates are awesome!!

[Grief]

hope you don't mind
quick color job in OpenCanvas/Photoshop with a mouse... maybe 45 mins

and here's (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/ninjau1/wolv4.jpg) another alternate

[wolverinex]

cuullll!!!!!!!! except the drop shadow under the eye

[Manly Man]

Muy muy sexy, except the areolas. Kinda funky lookin', what with the dots around it. A little trick for that would be to just make an oval around it with the same pink, and dump the filling in.

[wolverinex]

rhine will u manage my post to get into sketch book section

[wolverinex]

guys new creatures ready to upload and bringing the new scanner home ooohoohhuuu!and say u guys love me!:sony:

[Spiralfish]

"so this is a smaller one hope to get a better response this time ..be the critique and kick my ass"

I not making any accusations.....

HOWEVER....

That first image of the girl, Ive seen before..

I own a set of 4 books on manga techniques... that image looks almost identical as the illustration from the cover of the pen and Ink volume.

That image was an art supply themed drawing and she had a pen attached to her collar... in fact in your drawing, you can still see the erasers and paper clip in her hair.

It could be a weird coincidence.....but it looks very very similar... like her hair and face is almost line for line...

Im not sure who did the original drawing....but the book series I have is the chinese edition..it's a series of four books on Watercolor, Pen and INk, Acrylic, and Color Marker.... I havent seen it in the US... off the top I cant recall the author..

[wolverinex]

no it is from that reference no doubt on that...

[Spiralfish]

Well sorry to Necropost......But I finally found my book...

Look, Doing master copies is a good way to learn... but you should point that you copied it from somewhere..... or someone will do it for you...

Then it just looks bad.

[ChaoticKnight]

this is one confusing thread... O_o Can someone edit out that other dude's post?
Wolverinex: I like that you've done freehand work besides this... referenced... one. That means that you are trying to do your own stuff. Post your life class drawings asap!

[Jason Rainville]

rhine will u manage my post to get into sketch book section

Guh? I'm not a mod, if that's what you're asking...

[wolverinex]

so wat the hell spiral is trying to prove here
i told that it is a reference taken
am just a nube ...and ma omp is broke will be posting ma life drawings as soon as get admitted intu the atlier here and as soon as ma comp gets ready

[JellevdVegt]

hmm sorry, dont like manga, and i think the picture is stretched/squeezed. also, i think the girls neck is to long. her neck/torso area looks weird. her head having perfect side view bothers me 2. yur other drawings you uploaded are much better imo. good luck

[xdhirax]

What's your goal?
manga comics?
Might wanna expand the scene a little...

[wolverinex]

Comics Any!

[Lake]

woa dude.


this forum takes art copying fairly seriously.
in the future, post that you took it from reference and from where, right at the beginning when you post the image.

Also: mod please move thread.
I thought seedling WAS a mod?

[Spiralfish]

I thought seedling WAS a mod?

I don't think she is....Elwell and Steph laberis are though...

[Animation Idiot]

Copying manga will only teach you how to draw very badly. Manga is basically a cartooning style - a simplification of complex things. Which means you will only learn to copy surface, and not understand the underlying thought that goes into making good work.

Copying incredible drawings by the old masters and other similarly worthwhile artists will teach you how to draw better, and give you some insight into the thought process that goes into excellent work.