Character concept...

[Jarhead762]

This was based on a character which belongs to a friend but it was almost completely redesigned for my tastes. I'm a little unsure of what to do with it now. I'm having issue with her eyes and not terribly sure how to position her arms. Sorry for the crappy photograph :\ Any ideas?

[JAG.]

well, besides the obvious.. her right eye and right boob are out of whak. her right eye is too small and located closer to her nose, yet we can see the whole thing. thats not correct.. part of it should be hidden by the bridge of her nose. her right cheeck also sticks out a bit too far.

now for her right boob, almost the same problem but isntead its too big. from the given perspective, it should be slightly smaller and pointing away from the viewer. and it kind of does, just not enough i think. also, it sticks out too far.. like her implant fell out or something and its 'lumping' out, but got caught by her shirt. looks painful.

her right arm should be mostly hidden, her left arm should be covering part of her hips. and her waste has all sorts of problems.. too many lumps. whats going on there??

typically, the elbow falls just below the rib cage, and so far it looks like thats where it is.. but that means her upper arm is only 2 inches long.. wtf?? its really small, but maybe because her enormous boobs take up so much of her torso it seems that way..??

just some things to start with.. im sure fixing those will reveal otheres but there you go.. - JAG

[Jarhead762]

Well, what is the obvious? I appreciate the time you took to give your advice on what you feel is incorrect. I probably should have elaborated a little more on the character and my personal art style I think. I tend to draw things in a rather exaggerated sense. The character is not human so facial structure will not follow standard anatomy but I see what you are saying about the right eye. I had identified that previously but just wasn't quite sure what made it look off to me.

As for her breasts, I know you said her right but do you mean the viewer's right? I'm having a bit of difficulty seeing what you mentioned.

I'm also not sure what you mean by lumps on her waste. Are you talking about the definition lines I drew in a poor attempt to show muscle tone on her stomach?

After taking a closer look, her rib cage does end a little high and I'll lengthen it up just a tad.

Out of curiosity though, do you have much art that deals with a style like this? I'm thankful for the advice but I just want to make sure the blind aren't leading the blind here.

-Jarhead

[cepator]

Well, what is the obvious? I appreciate the time you took to give your advice on what you feel is incorrect. I probably should have elaborated a little more on the character and my personal art style I think. I tend to draw things in a rather exaggerated sense. The character is not human so facial structure will not follow standard anatomy but I see what you are saying about the right eye. I had identified that previously but just wasn't quite sure what made it look off to me.

As for her breasts, I know you said her right but do you mean the viewer's right? I'm having a bit of difficulty seeing what you mentioned.

I'm also not sure what you mean by lumps on her waste. Are you talking about the definition lines I drew in a poor attempt to show muscle tone on her stomach?

After taking a closer look, her rib cage does end a little high and I'll lengthen it up just a tad.

Out of curiosity though, do you have much art that deals with a style like this? I'm thankful for the advice but I just want to make sure the blind aren't leading the blind here.

-Jarhead
you just got helpful comment about that and you got a lot of excuses for your mistakes.
JAG. knows something about body structure, opposite to you.
I can easily say who is blind, furry boy

[JAG.]

easy there Cepator.. no harm done.

jarhead: i get that your style may be exaggerated, it happens. and at least for the face, normal bone structure is gonna be different. but its still a humanoid body, and theres really no reason why it shouldnt follow normal human anatomy.

indeed, when i said her right breast, i mean HER right breast.. so thats the viewer's left.

and yes, the lumps i mentioned i guess are the definition lines, like you said maybe they're just exegerrated but it does make it look strange.

i dont have much experience with fantasy characters such as this. but honestly, i dont really need to. its a human figure with the head of a cat. maybe paws instead of hands and feet.. but theres no reason why that should affect the general anatomy of the figure. even if you exaggerate the breasts and such, as is very common.. anatomy and proportions are still key to proper design, no matter the type of character.

hope that clarifies some things.. - JAG

[Jarhead762]

I can easily say who is blind, furry boy

Watch who you're calling boy, but more importantly, watch who you call a furry.

easy there Cepator.. no harm done.

jarhead: i get that your style may be exaggerated, it happens. and at least for the face, normal bone structure is gonna be different. but its still a humanoid body, and theres really no reason why it shouldnt follow normal human anatomy.

indeed, when i said her right breast, i mean HER right breast.. so thats the viewer's left.

and yes, the lumps i mentioned i guess are the definition lines, like you said maybe they're just exegerrated but it does make it look strange.

i dont have much experience with fantasy characters such as this. but honestly, i dont really need to. its a human figure with the head of a cat. maybe paws instead of hands and feet.. but theres no reason why that should affect the general anatomy of the figure. even if you exaggerate the breasts and such, as is very common.. anatomy and proportions are still key to proper design, no matter the type of character.

hope that clarifies some things.. - JAG

I am definitely thankful for the time you took to give me advice on my drawing, despite what cepator wants to think. However, unlike him I didn't intend to be rude or insult anyone. I apologize if I did.

It was easy for me to see a few of the things you mentioned but some not so much. I've been looking at it a lot more though and going over the areas you mentioned. Sure enough, I'm starting to see what you said.

I'm not trying to make excuses about what's wrong with my drawing. I've got balls enough to admit, unlike some I've met, that I'm a novice at best when it comes to drawing. I just tend to seek a lot of detail about what's wrong since I probably won't readily notice it.

An underlying motive in my question about your experiences with an exaggerated style was to see some of what you've done. I'm very interested in seeing some of your art actually.

I'm going to try and fix this sketch up the best I can based on what you mentioned and the other things I've started to notice. In the end it may not be perfect but for a sketch I did while being bored in Iraq, I think it served it's purpose.

Thanks again for the pointers.

-Jarhead

[JAG.]

any time jarhead.. thats what we're here for. at least most of us ;)

yeah ive been meaning to start a sketchbook for months but im too lazy to scan in all my work. i'll get around to it.. i have some WIPs floating around here somewhere.. - JAG

[Jarhead762]

any time jarhead.. thats what we're here for. at least most of us ;)

yeah ive been meaning to start a sketchbook for months but im too lazy to scan in all my work. i'll get around to it.. i have some WIPs floating around here somewhere.. - JAG

And I do definitely appreciate it. It's been hard finding people to give actual critique on something. All I get is the usual "Looks good" or "Keep it up" which kinda defeats the purpose of even asking :\

I did try to locate some of your work in older posts of yours but it seems you have posted quite a bit on here so I gave up on that for the time being. I can definitely relate to being lazy and not scanning stuff in so cheers to that. I'm rather disappointed I don't get to draw traditionally much any more as all of my recent stuff has been digital. I'm probably going to cop out and scan this one in and make all the changes with my wacom tablet and either oC 4 or CS2.

-Jarhead

[JAG.]

see im new to the digital thing, most of my work is on paper, hence the lack of scanning. im still learning the process for proper digital art and rendering. i'll get there eventually..

hows the progress on this one?.. - JAG

[Jarhead762]

see im new to the digital thing, most of my work is on paper, hence the lack of scanning. im still learning the process for proper digital art and rendering. i'll get there eventually..

hows the progress on this one?.. - JAG

Yeah, it was quite a pain in the ass for me to learn it at first too. I'm still getting used to digital drawing even after almost two years experience with it.

Right now the progress on this one is non-existent. Training is keeping me from doing much of anything but this weekend looks to be a promising time for some artwork.

-Jarhead